User talk:Tangerines/Archive 6

Menocchio Article
Hello, do you have the authority to delete this article? Because if you do I really want it deleted...I am unhappy with it and was unable to property edit it. Since you denined me the chance to edit it can you please remove it from the site - Thank you.

Menocchio
Tangerines -- Regarding "Menocchio and the Roman Inquisition" On Sunday I was trying to complete a school project, edit my article and print it out without any notices on the top because that would not have looked good...I posted this info on the heading so that you would leave me alone for like 1 hour and told you that after you could do whatever edits you wanted, but you blocked my account and made a miserable time for me! That said, I now ask you to please delete the article from the site, it is not edited properly and is missing alot of info because I was unable to make any of these changes. Since it was my 1st attempt at Wikipedia I was not familiar with how things work.....please delete the article entirely...thank you.

Blackpool
You've probably seen this. I was wondering if it was notable enough for inclusion in the Blackpool article. I'm going to mention it in the MS Riverdance article anyway. Mjroots (talk) 08:21, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I'd say that it is big enough to form its own article so I will create it. Suggested title is fine but don't be too strict on the definition of "Blackpool". Lytham - Fleetwood would be a reasonable area of coverage. What the article would benifit from is more research offline. We have dates/years so a trawl through the old local papers should provide a l;ot more info. Does Blackpool Library have copies of old papers either in the flesh or on microfilm? The Blackpool Gazette may have an archive too. Mjroots (talk) 06:40, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Would you take a look at the Blackpool article. There was an edit which removed over 1k of material, I tried to fix it an seemed to make a mess of it, have managed to reinstate the infobox but not sure if there is other material still missing though. Mjroots (talk) 07:54, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Bengio
Yeah, almost certainly, will be keeping an eye out. Black Kite 15:39, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Blackpool Tower
Please don't undo my revision for the artist appearing in the Tower Lounge - especially as the resident clown and resident magician are already listed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kieronlunn (talk • contribs) 17:35, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

James Thompson (researcher)
FYI, I have noticed that you are disputing my claim of Thompson Solutions having contracts with those three manufacturers. FYI, Delta's new Thompson sleeper suites will be built by Contour Premium. ANDROS1337  17:17, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

BTW, here is the news article that states Delta's Thompson suites are manufactured by Contour Premium:   ANDROS1337   17:30, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Bobbin Wallis
db-author and db-blanked are the same thing. :P - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 20:39, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Global skills
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AfD nomination of David H.M. Brooks
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AfD nomination of List of hooligan firms
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Bengio redux
Fairly obvious sock, isn't it? Blocked indef. Black Kite 17:11, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Association for Scottish Literary Studies
Re. The COI: I've added a User page making it clear that I'm an employee of ASLS. I've also added references (more to come) and some sections. Scotliterary (talk) 18:49, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

ASLS
Hi again. Thanks for the welcome, the advice, and the links. No probs re. the remaining issues -- I'll definitely get some more references in there and try to expand the page in a neutral and objective fashion! Scotliterary (talk) 19:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/List of hooligan firms
Hi. Sorry, but I don't think this guy is going to accept your logic, or mine. Better to let him have his playground - he'll find that anyone with the tools to delete will eventually over-rule him. Bad loser time. Thanks. Ref (chew) (do) 23:27, 16 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Even better. He thinks there's sock activity going on, according to his latest edit summary, and I bet he thinks you and I are one and the same. However, I don't go around talking to myself (well, not in Wikipedia, at least!). Thanks. Ref (chew) (do) 00:04, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Ooh That Does It. Have A Smile!
Your edit conflicting with me is the LAST STRAW! (Seriously. I've had 15 in the past 10 minutes or so.) 

WarthogDemon has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. So have a smile. :) - Warthog Demon  03:46, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Quite alright
Quite alright. Ref (chew) (do) 20:57, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Sho Online
How is it that people have fan pages and reference pages on games that have just been released into beta testing and not get their pages deleted? Twilightcho (talk) 04:27, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Oopsy
Hello, oh thank god i found you. This may sound crazy, but I have taken the tutorial already but I haven't got a clue how to use this crazy thing called Wikipedia. I best delete that message "a cry for help". —Preceding unsigned comment added by TylerBoettcher (talk • contribs) 04:31, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Sho Online
So should i just not work on my page any further? I mean i don't want to make a page on here and then post it on the site for the game for people who need help if its just going to be deletedTwilightcho (talk) 04:36, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Daniel Padin
I've done a significant amount of research regarding Dr. Padin, what are the specific issues as to why this might be considered a hoax? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Compwhiz540 (talk • contribs) 06:05, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

You are wrong in stating that none of the sources that I have provided are not verifiable. You have failed to mention the MJ Ray, DR Padin, JD Condie and JM Halls article nor the he Van Overtveldt work. In the Van Overtveldt work he is cited in the references section. As for the internet links that you have clicked, links frequently go dead. I will update relevant sources as they become available. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Compwhiz540 (talk • contribs) 06:30, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I never added that information of IAMS, it is sad that google is your only means and that print sources are out of your reach. And yes, it is my failure to cite and I got lazy and put the website down rather than citing the print source. contribs) 06:38, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I have checked and verified the above mentioned sources. They are third party. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlemerman8 (talk) 06:46, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I understand that you have some reservations about claims made in the article. Some of them seem questionable and should be evaluated. The idea that the whole article should be deleted, however, seems ludicrous. There are many true and verified claims. This is my issue with the hoax sticker. It would be better to place a "This article has questionable claims" or "This article does not cite its sources" sticker instead.

What it leaves is a published book and a scholarly journal article attesting to the truth of the claims. Much more reliable sources than anything you can find on google. As well they are verifiable. http://www.springerlink.com/content/t736657317h34226/. In light of this link I am once again tempted to remove the hoax tag. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlemerman8 (talk • contribs) 07:10, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

For the book: http://books.google.com/books?id=It6mGQAACAAJ&dq=The+Chicago+School:+How+the+University+of+Chicago+Assembled+the+Thinkers+Who+Revolutionized+Economics+and+Business Littlemerman8 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 07:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Finally, I did add the IAMS comment and still stand by my opinion. I understand if you are skeptical and I am not attached to leaving it in the article as I knew that it would bring up controversy. Please do not question the authenticity of other claims solely because of my conspiracy theory. Littlemerman8 (talk) 07:21, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

The scholarly article is our most reliable source. Correct? Clearly then Dr. Padin must have been born before 1980 and lived in California at that time. Therefore, we can question the date of birth given in the article, not the authenticity of the source. And therefore the IAMS claim becomes more credifiable. But, as I said, I'm willing to drop that. I have included the Randall in Daniel's name. It was an oversight.Littlemerman8 (talk) 07:29, 18 March 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlemerman8 (talk • contribs)

Find anything about Padin's true date of birth? Littlemerman8 (talk) 07:55, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

hoax?

 * Tangerines, please see my comment on the article's talk page. Thanks, - Mtmelendez (Talk) 13:36, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, you were being boxed into an helpless position. Next time, don't hesitate to look for help. WP:3O is pretty helpful in this. I just happened to find the article through a Wikiproject, randomly clicking away. As for AFD, it's easier than it looks. Just read the process here. I'll nominate it this time, but don't be afraid next time. - Mtmelendez (Talk) 19:58, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Association for Scottish Literary Studies
Hi. I've added in a bunch of references/citations for all the claims re. living authors -- some to websites, some to the editions of the book in which their works appear. I could add more: several of these authors made more than one contribution. Would it be better to cite every issue where their material is published as well as, or instead of, the web references? Are there other points on the page which need citations? Thanks! Scotliterary (talk) 17:52, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

State of Michigan cash rebates
Nice catch. I was just about to nominate it myself. --Juansidious (talk) 02:00, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Kuril Islands
I see that you reverted several edits by Wilderr to Kuril Islands dispute. Could you please comment on why? I had a brief look at the diffs and could not quite understand what was going on (your revert edit summary did not provide an explanation). Maybe you could leave some brief comments on the talk page of Kuril Islands dispute... Thanks, Nsk92 (talk) 03:22, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for a quick response! I agree with you that there was something a bit off with Wilderr's edit, including the point you mentioned, and it probably deserves a follow-up. In fact, the "inasmuch" portion really makes no sense: from what I understand, the Soviet Univion did not sign that treaty, period. I am going to reduct that phrase out of the article. (Although Wilderr's change from "returned to" to "ceded to" might  actually be an improvement in the sense of NPOV). Regards, Nsk92 (talk) 03:47, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see that Wilderr has just put the "inasmuch" phrase back in. No sure what is going on here... Regards, Nsk92 (talk) 15:40, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Soossam
Please review WP:Patent nonsense. Only articles that are gibberish can be classified as g1. See below: - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 16:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Total nonsense, i.e., text or random characters that have no assignable meaning at all. This includes sequences such as "rtmhtyhjjflbhjoglhjgblvjh\[\\\\98kjt9ykbitiof,kkc", in which keys of the keyboard have been pressed with no regard for what is typed.
 * 2) Content that, while apparently meaningful after a fashion, is so completely and irredeemably confused that no reasonable person can be expected to make any sense of it whatsoever.

NS Railinfratrust
I think that Article have bin improved User:SPRich 23:00, 20 March 2008 (UTC+1)

Vis-a-vis Apiocoectomy
I have removed the speedy tag, it shows a good context now. WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN tell me a joke...  22:41, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem, I hate it when people remove those, too ;) WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN tell me a joke...  22:43, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I was in process of editing the article when I got a lock. I took the new changes, and dropped my edit. Then I saw the speedy deletion. It couldn't have been more than 5 minutes after I created a user name and started work on the article. So, within 5 minutes of creating my first article, someone wants to delete it. That's not a good policy to encourage new users. Also, am I supposed to create an article that is perfect, then post it here? Goodness. What do you do, tangerines, just wait for new articles so you can delete them. What gives? Well, that was good enough for me. How can I delete my account?Daveprince (talk) 22:54, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

It's not disappointing, it's frustrating. I've been on wikipedia for what 5-10 minutes and my first two responses are: delete article, don't remove deletes. I had no idea it was tagged because the article was locked for editing. In the time I posted the new article and went back to make minor grammar errors, it was marked for deletion. Then when I tried to fix it, I was scolded for deleting a tag. By mistake.

And of course I wasn't scolded just as you weren't insulted. At least I didn't insult anyone.Daveprince (talk) 23:16, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Herman James Good
I have added some information on him that you have deleted. I cannot verify with a third party. But I am a relative of Herman James Good. Could this be enough proof to keep the information on? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leeconne (talk • contribs) 01:37, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Show Globes
I figured out how to do the multiple footnotes to the same source. Thanks Always another question though. Not that my article will be the last word on show globes but I am curious as to why it does not show up on a google or yahoo search yet? Will that happen when the template that says it is being edited is removed? Answer when you have time. thanks, natalie

Natalie kupferberg (talk) 22:30, 26 March 2008 (UTC)Natalie Kufperberg

Tangerine (where does that name come from?) it is me again. Someone else was helping me but did not have your style and wit (Yes I am hoping that flattery will get me everywhere-meaning all the help I need to get this done.) With the article on show globes I am having trouble making mutliple footnotes to the same source. I know there are templates but I though it would be easier not to use one. I was using the format of the Vancouver method which is usually used when writing medical articles. One of the editors told me this format was wrong. I thought I could use any standardized format.

I have the "Wikipedia: the Missing Manual" but I find the section on multiple footnotes confusing. Feel free to fix things up for me but I have to learn how to do it at some point. I will stop rambling now. Natalie Natalie kupferberg (talk) 21:22, 25 March 2008 (UTC)Natalie Kupferberg

Thanks for your warm welcome to the wikipedia. I aprpeciate your patience. I am trying to write an article about show globes (also called pharmacy globes) an old symbol of pharmacy and although the text is written I am having trouble with the wiki format. I have put in the lead paragraphand some references since I thought the instructions said inputting the references should be the first step.

I know how busy you are but is there someone I can e-mail questions to.

Thanks for your help. Natalie (kupferberg.1@osu.edu) Natalie kupferberg (talk) 16:50, 21 March 2008 (UTC)Natalie Kupferberg

Unfortunately the article I listed so far are not available in electronic form, at least not for free. I will be adding some web site as references. Thanks again. ````Natalie Kupferberg —Preceding unsigned comment added by Natalie kupferberg (talk • contribs) 17:26, 21 March 2008 (UTC) I am trying to link to my reference but they keep on disappearing although they show up in edit mode. What is going on? Nat Natalie kupferberg (talk) 21:29, 21 March 2008 (UTC)natalie kupferberg help

Thanks again for your help tangerine. Do you do this all day? you are so quick. Natalie kupferberg (talk) 21:40, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Female game heroines
If you let this article stay for a while, more peopel can add info and expand this list --Roaring Siren (talk) 16:51, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

and also the verification links for notablity are provided within the page itself —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roaring Siren (talk • contribs) 16:52, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

A Question
If you now accept that not every Millwall fan is a hooligan, why were you happy for that particular sentence, demonising all Millwall fans as hooligans, to stand unchallenged until now? Thank you. &#39;Arry Boy (talk) 17:34, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for you prompt reply. I hadn't realised that I addressed this question to the wrong editor. Thank you for restoring what I had written and for recognising that it was not nonsense. Yes of course, there were some hooligans that night who regard themselves as "fans", but the great majority of ordinary Millwall fans do not see them as such, and wish they would all crawl back under their respective rocks! Best wishes, &#39;Arry Boy (talk) 18:01, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help. Best, &#39;Arry Boy (talk) 18:09, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your intervention, but I'm afraid that this person just like the media who are happy to brand all Millwall fans as hooligans will not be stopped. I did not decide to contribute to an encylopeadia, to defend my team from grossly inaccurate reporting by the BBC or anyone else. I wonder would Wikipedia allow the statement: "All black kids in London, carry guns and are drug dealers," just because I could find a source that would confirm such an outrageous, and inaccurate statement had been made? Thanks, &#39;Arry Boy (talk) 14:49, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Once again thank you for your help, and yes of course I will remain calm - sorry if I've come across as being "heated" I'm only annoyed really:) Thanks, &#39;Arry Boy (talk) 15:12, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes indeed I've read it and it is far more accurate than any reports that emanated from the BBC or any British newspaper. I am very grateful for all the time you have devoted to finding a fair and accurate account. Best wishes, &#39;Arry Boy (talk) 15:38, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes I saw and I agree with what you changed - only trouble is he's gone and changed it back again saying the source is unreliable! Cheers! &#39;Arry Boy (talk) 23:45, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

He/she is now saying (on the disscusion page) that he intends to carry on changing the article. I think we are not dealing with a reasonable person here. Cheers, &#39;Arry Boy (talk) 00:39, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes I agree, it's the only thing one can do in the face of such intransigence. Let's hope you recieve a reply, that will really nail it and please do take a rest! I can only thank you again for all your time and trouble, I really appreciate it. Best wishes, &#39;Arry Boy (talk) 13:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I'd Do Anything
Thanks! I think it's probably a good idea to use Any Dream Will Do (TV series) as a basis for IDA. Obviously, a structure will become clearer the further into the series we get, as repetitive information and such can be set out where it needs to be. I'll take a proper look at what's in IDA after the results show tonight - I'm sure there's a better way to lay out the songs for each show, but I'm not sure what it is... -- Dafyd (talk) 10:55, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, absolutely. If there's no reliable source for the surnames (and I've certainly not found one), we can't really put them in. I think the fact that the BBC isn't giving their surnames is to do with their privacy, which is fair enough. I'll back you up if they get added again. -- Dafyd (talk) 20:23, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Wembley United Synagogue
Hi. I wondered if you could complete the "JC" citation you added in this diff. It's currently a name only. Cheers. --Dweller (talk) 19:19, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I worked it out eventually. As you'll see, I've left the other editor an appropriate message. --Dweller (talk) 20:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Newbies... there are easier and more obvious ways of vandalising than that. --Dweller (talk) 21:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

IDA tables
I do like those tables, but I can't help but wonder whether they might be overkill for what is, in effect, just a list... I think that once we get several episodes, the article will seem to be overflowing with tables! Certainly I think that the missions and sing-off might just be clearer as prose. I guess it's worth trying a few things and see what comes out of other editors' contributions give us - so yes, give your tables a go and see what happens! -- Dafyd (talk) 19:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Possible collaboration
Just wondering what your Wikipedia workload is at present. I've finally created all of Blackpool's season articles, and now it's time to expand them with the results, appearances, goals and transfers information. I can scan and e-mail you the season pages from Roy Calley's book for you to either a) add information over whenever you can fit in the time, or b) if you don't have the time, to double-check the information I add. Would you be interested? - Dudesleeper / Talk  19:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Great. I was wondering what was the best way to pass along the information. Instead of bombarding your inbox, I'll just send one season at a time. When you're done with that one, I'll send the next one. I'll probably have you start working backwards from 1989-90. This is if you're able to expand the season articles yourself — otherwise, I can send you 1900-01, which is the one I'll be adding stats to next. - Dudesleeper / Talk  21:26, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Please send me your e-mail address when you get a chance. - Dudesleeper / Talk  00:29, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Children's rights
Hi Tangerines, and thanks for injecting yourself into the editing quagmire known as children's rights. I asked for assistance regarding this situation at editor assistance, but to no avail thus far, so let me appeal to you: edits made by S-MorrisVP, and, as acknowledged by the user, those made before a user account was created, are clearly being done to prove a point. Is there anyway out of this morass? • Freechild   'sup?   00:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your thoughts - I appreciate it. I have responded specifically to the criticisms lobbed so far, and I will go to the COI noticeboard next. This is the part of WP that is least pleasant... so it goes. Thanks again. • Freechild   'sup?   00:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Quasi-legislative
Hey. The author removed the prod you placed on this page. How do you want to handle it? AfD? &mdash;  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 02:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * AfD's at Articles for deletion/Quasi-legislative. &mdash;  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 03:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Sandbox page
I would like to take you up on your offer to make me a sandbox page!! Thanks!! (New user, no sure how I'm suppose to contact you?) Jbogniak (talk) 03:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank youuuu!!! =) Jbogniak (talk) 03:36, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Signature
Hello! I wanted to let you know I think your signature is very spiffy, hehe. I was curious if you could help me create one simular but in red? Drachenfyre (talk) 08:06, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for heling with this, but I dont seem to be able to get it to work.. any ideas to trouble shoot?&#91;&#91;User:Drachenfyre&#124;&lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;&#39;&#39;&#39;&#39;&#39;♦Drachenfyre♦&#39;&#39;&#39;&#39;&#39;&lt;/font&gt;&#93;&#93;·&lt;small&gt;&#91;&#91;User_talk:Drachenfyre&#124;Talk&#93;&#93;&lt;/small&gt; (talk) 21:36, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * igotit! I got it! YEAH! thank you!!! ♦Drachenfyre♦ · Talk 21:38, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Reversion
Hi Tangerines. I see that about a month ago you removed my edits on Talk:British Isles without explanation. Can you tell me why you did this? It wasn't vandalism. Did I unknowingly break some Wikipedia rule? Vpag (talk) 15:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for the explanation. I was responding to the same point which had been made over and over again, but obviously at different times.  I'll keep your advice in mind in future.  Apologies for bringing up something from a month ago, but I haven't used the account I opened some time ago that much, so it came to my attention just recently.  Again, thanks for explaining your actions. Vpag (talk) 17:14, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Stephen Hayes
Hi Tangerines. I was wondering if you could step in again with the Stephen Hayes sourcing thing. You asked me to find a source to reference, and I did. But things have gone as I predicted. I don't see any way else other than someone like you stepping in. If there is a problem with what I have done, please let me know. Kidotai (talk) 22:11, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Quid-a-kid
Remember 'Pool's "quid-a-kid" promotions from the mid-'90s? I'm sure I remember hearing that Andy Watson was bought with the revenue from these schemes, but maybe it was something else. Any ideas? - Dudesleeper / Talk  12:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Map Co-ordinates
Hi Tangerines. I saw your explanation of your working practices on Dr.Greg's talk page. I use the following; double-click on spot in Google Maps, paste in javascript:void(prompt('',gApplication.getMap.getCenter)) This brings up a dialogue box with the co-ords to a ridiculous precision. Paste this (after edit) into Streetmap; this gives the OS grid ref and postcode. Problem I've had is getting hold of the post-town without resorting to the Post Office site; sometimes Google has it. Phone codes are another bane. OTOH grid ref and Geograph (and Photoshop) and Wikimedia is a good bit of fun- I know tarmac covers 50% of the country, but I don't know why people like to tarmac the foreground of their photos! Ning-ning (talk) 12:58, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey there!

I noticed that you tagged a couple of this editor's articles for speedy deletion. I hope you don't mind but I changed your reason for the deletion from WP:CSD to WP:CSD due to the fact that both articles were word-for-word cut and paste copies from here. In my experience, copyvio issues are usually dealt with a lot faster than notability issues due to the potential damage to Wikipedia from the use of unauthorized copyright material. Anyways, just thought I'd let you know.

Peace! SWik78 (talk • contribs) 15:23, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Just FYI
You ought to be aware that you've been namechecked at Suspected sock puppets/Grant.Alpaugh. All the best, The Rambling Man (talk) 07:36, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries. If I were you I'd just ignore it. It'll go away soon I suspect! The Rambling Man (talk) 15:03, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I'd Do Anything: The Return
I've been keeping an eye on the article for the last few weeks, but as I'm TV-less at the moment, relying on iPlayer, you always seem to have the week covered before I get to it. Excellent work. I noticed the various bits of vandalism, and I honestly doubt there's much we can do about it - the people adding the spoiler/fake info isn't going to be stopped by some hidden comments.

I agree entirely about RyanLupin - I've added a comment to the talk page to that effect. I certainly don't think the article is too long or confusing - just that the structure could use a little work, but nothing is going to satisfy everyone. I think we'll have to just keep going as we are for the next few weeks, and then look at reworking the article once the series finishes (after all, we'll have a good 6 months before the musical opens and people get interested again...).

Keep up the good work, and give me a shout if you think there's more I can be doing. I'm in the middle of my Finals at the moment, but Wikipedia is good revision avoidance...! -- Dafyd (talk) 15:54, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Voting fraud
You think just because you have certain templates on your user page tells me anything? User:Grant.Alpaugh likes playing his little games and would lie just to look innocent. Kingjeff (talk) 19:06, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

It's very simple. If you know you're not guilty then you have nothing to worry about. Kingjeff (talk) 19:32, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll appologize right for all the innocent users that I had to drag in because of User:Grant.Alpaugh little games. This is a necessary evil to deal with people like User:Grant.Alpaugh. Kingjeff (talk) 19:45, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sorry for accusing Grant of this but I'm sorry he forced me to have to involve innocent users. Kingjeff (talk) 19:42, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * This is one of the weakest and mealy-mouthed "apologies" that I think I've ever seen here - A l is o n  ❤ 21:09, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * FWIW, I can understand your anger here, Tangerines, and am sorry for having had to checkuser you. You have done absolutely nothing wrong whatsoever here, yet your name got needlessly dragged through the mud - A l is o n  ❤ 21:09, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey Tangerines, I appreciate how furious this has made you, but I think you've made your point. Jeff surely did something boneheaded, and the fact that he refuses to apologize shows more about his character than anything, but you're bordering on beating a dead horse just like he has. So in the spirit of WP, give him a break a little. I think you might actually get the apology you're after if you do. --  Grant  .  Alpaugh  04:31, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Jay Aston
What on earth have you done to this page? I was in the middle of expanding/rewriting it as well as adding a picture and not only have you changed it - you've knocked off the second half of the page - including ALL the references. --Tuzapicabit (talk) 20:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, fair enough, I didn't see how I did that, but when I looked at history and saw another name in among mine, I assumed you had done it.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 20:36, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Just spotted the spaces you're referring to. Sorry I've lost them, but they're only visible in the edit, do you really need to remove them? I'v finished for now anyway, I might add a bit more to her early career on another day. A couple of minor adjustments I made to you infobox, I don't think she's at all known as an actress (two very minor roles) or as a solo artist (I know she has been - but the page is basically there as she was a member of a group), but I'm not too worried about that if you want to keep it. Cheers, and sorry for jumping to conclusions, but it was a bit of a co-incidence!--Tuzapicabit (talk) 20:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm FAT
Okay, not really, but just noticed you changed the citation reference in MyFootballClub, with which I have no problem. Just wanted to point out, that "FAT" is an abbreviation used to refer to the FA Trophy, so that's why I used it there. I find that short, easy-to-type ref names are best and that was what I was aiming for -- unsuccessfully! Anyway, no biggie, just thought I'd mention it. -- Friejose (talk) 22:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

we were gentlemen article
Sooo, I'm am still wondering what the reason is for deleting my complete article when there are referenced bases to help support what the band is. please do tell Xjerkkx (talk) 23:40, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Nothing to do with me. I merely tried to help by suggesting how to contest the deletion nomination. I didn't nominate it nor delete it which I can't do anyway not being an Admin. ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 00:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

okay, well thank you! --Xjerkkx (talk) 21:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: I'd Do Anything
The best place to start is probably Good article criteria as these are what the reviewer checks against. It may also help to look at other comparable existing good articles, such as The Apprentice (UK Series Three), or featured articles to see how they go about things. Probably most of the info is there at the moment that can be, it's mainly the layout of the content and how it is written that is the probably the hardest part, making sure the article is logical and goes somewhere rather than getting really into detail on one point and skating over another and then jumping around. I think the content that needs adding includes a section on what happens to the contestants after the series, and probably expand the criticism section into a reception section, which gives some other info on how critics received the series, detail any awards or nominations, and maybe a bit on viewing figures, such as those at the start, any mid-series lows/highs and the final, and any trends there might be. Maybe you could try with Any Dream Will Do first as all that sort of information is available?

I think the weekly information as it is now is fine, and I don't think it needs collating as it is easier to see what happened each week in the current format. I don't think any content needs moving anywhere as the page isn't really that long.

As for protection, it probably won't happen unless the adding is persistent and disruptive (I haven't looked over it), as protection isn't used as a pre-emptive measure, but you can try. Otherwise you might just have to keep reverting as unverifiable, unreliable information, maybe leaving a quick note with the adder to explain why you have removed it. Hope all that helps and let me know if I can help with anything else. Cheers, mattbr 09:31, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


 * As I mentioned above, I think the weekly format is probably the better layout as it provides a summary for each show as the series progresses, rather than just listing the information, and fits in much better with the overall layout of the article (ie lead section and infobox, format and pre-series, the contestants, weekly results, post-series, and reception). mattbr 15:35, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Reference Edits
Tangerines, thank you for writing concerning proper format reference edits to two articles: Robert Ivers, and Gordon Dexheimer. Both of these articles are referenced on the IMdB website, but I am uncertain how to accomplish them properly. Perhaps with your experience, and your generous offer to help, you might be able to take care of this? Thanks for any help you might provide. Rowdywriter —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rowdywriter (talk • contribs) 21:03, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Tangerines, thanks again for your offer to help. I'm in so far over my head with this right now it hurts! I'm glad I found you to help me out (I'm having difficulty enough trying to talk to you) (smile). I'll send along anything else I can find for references on these two articles as well, once I secure some time to look. Thanks again. Rowdywriter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rowdywriter (talk • contribs) 21:14, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I'll take a deep breath (smile). Again, I appreciate your assistance; I really didn't want to have these two articles deleted (my first) and, with your help they may survive. I'll try to do much better in the future (and will keep your name in my file). --Rowdywriter (talk) 21:30, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so very much for your help on my little contributions. The Robert Ivers article looks wonderful, thanks to you! Wikipedia is very fortunate indeed to have you "watching." Best regards. --Rowdywriter (talk) 12:38, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

That will be fine. If you make the other one look a fraction as good as the Ivers article I will be ecstatic. I know you must be busy and in demand because of the obvious knowledge you possess as regards the Wikipedia system and the quality of your work. Thanks again. --Rowdywriter (talk) 20:25, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Tangerines, Once again I seem to be calling on you for some help--still on one of the articles I worked on (Gordon Dexheimer). It appears an attempt to add a reference didn't work and I don't know how to fix it, let alone if I should even try. When you get time, if you could look at it I'd appreciate it. I know you are very busy and I hate to ask.... Thanks, in any event. --Rowdywriter (talk) 18:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Wonderful! Thank you very kindly for your continued help. Best regards. --Rowdywriter (talk) 19:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Tangerines, you are the absolute best! Thank you so much, the article looks great! Wikipedia is very fortunate to have you "looking out" for things. --Rowdywriter (talk) 12:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Tangerines, I noticed you are "watching out" for one of my articles. Thanks for being there pal, I appreciate your diligence. Warm regards. --Rowdywriter (talk) 12:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
That was a little bit bizzare, but I think it was managed well. Good call removing his work. I've tagged the images for speedy deletion. --Jza84 | Talk  00:59, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Oliver Twist character article
Hi, I notice that you mentioned to DGG that you were interested in expanding Oliver Twist (character). Please do so, because it's still worthless as it stands. I've a mind to redirect it for the time being to the main article, just leaving categories in place, until someone has time to create a decent article; any objection? - Fayenatic (talk) 16:45, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, that's fine. David suggested a section on cultural references, and that would certainly help to justify a separate article. - Fayenatic (talk) 16:56, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow, that's quick work, and good too. I'll take it off my watchlist now, but keep up the good work! - Fayenatic (talk) 13:13, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes,very good work. What I think it needs next is a discussion of differences in the movies from the novel. I added two phrases which should of course be unnecessary, but given some of the objections which are raised around here.... DGG (talk) 16:38, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Talk:England
I suspect that this will carry on. I've already blocked the first two ips, but he/she appears to be able to circumvent normal blocking via Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol or simillar. Best bet is to use the WP:DENY method, specifically Revert, block, ignore. They'll soon get bored. Give me a shout if it reappears and I'll step in with a short block to stop the disruption (we should be writing articles rather than reverting this nonsense). Thanks for the contact, --Jza84 | Talk  23:22, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I'd Do Anything
Haha, no surprise that you'd be rooting for Jodie. Can't say I blame you, as she'd be in my top two as well. Still, I'd have to go for Sam (or the Manx Minx, as I have dubbed her) as my Nancy. I'd give her a bit of Oom-Pah-Pah, if you catch my drift. – PeeJay 23:20, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Fit as she is, though, I think Jessie will probably go out tomorrow. Before she performed, I'd have said Rachel was the favourite to come in fourth, but since she got a standing ovation today, she might sneak into the final. Then it'll come down to Sam and Jodie in the final two. Trouble is, I really can't see Jodie playing Nancy as Dickens described her, so Sam probably will win. – PeeJay 01:54, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

"Association" Football in the Republic of Ireland
I'm upset to see a fellow bardolater treat football in this way! How can you support "Association" in the ROI article? What are the actual positive arguments for it?--Matt Lewis (talk) 18:08, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Timtiny23
Blocked, along with Tefl3. Thanks for the heads up. GBT/C 19:15, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Blackpool Panthers
Thanks for your edits, not many people are interested in working on the club histories and it is nice to have some help. One thing that I have reverted though is the Blackpool Borough section which you split into three mini sections. I did this because Blackpool Borough were actually a different team from which Chorley Lynx / Blackpool Panthers split off from.

Borough have their own article which goes into more detail about that specific franchise. I kept the early history of Borough very brief in the Panthers article to avoid the suggestion that the two teams were the same and hence reverted the mini sections.GordyB (talk) 23:24, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I created the Blackpool Borough page mostly because the history of both clubs was extremely complicated and having too much Borough history on the Panthers page made it unnecessarily difficult. I don't think there is anything on the Borough page that would be particularly relevant to Panthers or vice versa.GordyB (talk) 00:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I used to watch Blackpool Panthers when I lived in proper Lancashire, I am also very pleased that things are going better for them on-field. I've only been to Woodlands once but it is a much more appropriate venue than Bloomfield Road which could be depressing (too few fans in too much space). Hopefully they have finally found their home.
 * With regard to the article, I will edit it again and try to find a better wording that makes it clear that Panthers are a continuation of the club which split from the old Borough side.GordyB (talk) 12:29, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Argentina
dude: about the argentina's article. have you read it? can you tell me what use have the reference to chile in that part of the article? and if so: why don't you put on the chilean article that is the second most developed AFTER it's neighbour argentina citing HDI sources? please read before doing your edits policing.

i'm actually hearing it in the radio since i'm at my job. it's 1-1 damn it. how do i send you messages? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.32.56.2 (talk) 01:20, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Jodie and Sam
Can I just say "Oh My God!" I wasn't at all surprised that Jodie won, even if I'd have preferred it if Sam had won, but I really didn't expect Sam to come in third. Looks like the British public was swayed by Jessie's plea for sympathy than actual talent! – PeeJay 00:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Canada
I see you want to visit Canada at some point. You're more than welcome to! Come in the fall. It's pretty then. Pollenberg (talk) 02:56, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Steve Connell article
I removed them because I thought I had resolved the issue, not because I was trying to circumvent protocol by any means. It seems like these tags are being put up because you feel something is not correct, could you please advise me as to how to correct these issues so the tags CAN be removed? Thanks so much!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ekweisberg (talk • contribs) 18:15, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I hear ya loud and clear. Anything you can advise me to do so that I can continue to resolve the tagged issues would be wonderful as I am new user. My intention is not to do anything out of the norm and I believe I've made it clear that I am trying to work with everyone and not deviate, so hopefully, we can lay that to rest and get on to making the page passable by everyones standards. Thanks for your help and I look forward to making all changes necessary. Ekweisberg (talk) 18:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)ekweisberg

sounds great and thank you for restoring the tags (couldn't figure out how!) i really want to the page to be correct, and tag free and I appreciate your help with it. Ekweisberg (talk) 18:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)ekweisberg

Re: Marlon Broomes
I think consensus is beginning to favour updating squads immediately, since people are likely to update it anyway in eagerness. - Dudesleeper / Talk  18:46, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Hidden cats
Yes, all the admin cats are hidden apart from Uncategorized. Rich Farmbrough, 11:31 5 June 2008 (GMT).

Wolstenholme's book
It sounds like it'd be of interest to me and 'Pool's Wikipedia articles. Is it prose- or statistics-based? - Dudesleeper / Talk  02:21, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * That'd be good. I can always check that they concur with Calley's stats, though I'm sure they will. - Dudesleeper / Talk  17:37, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Like your user name. should have thought of it myself


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Tigerstyle
Good work on this article, nice one! LHMike (talk) 20:55, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

mistake
I noticed the mistake, but it's fixed. ThanksMarenach (talk) 02:32, 10 June 2008 (UTC) I'm going to assume you don't read Spanish, because if you did you would have noticed that the two articles are not identical. Let me clarify things by suggesting, if you're so inclined, that you search google books for information on "Francisco J. Santamaría," you'll find pages and pages worth of references. If you're unhappy with the sources provided then put a label stating that, don't just erase the whole article.Marenach (talk) 03:26, 10 June 2008 (UTC)