User talk:Tangerines/Archive 8

Proposed deletion of Ella H. Scharring-Hausen
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Blackpool FC
Aite mate. I assumed they had changed shorts to tangerine as well, as per my browsing of BFC's official site as well as Zesh Rehman in Blackpool's kit here: Suprah™ (talk) 18:20, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Owen Oyston & Baby Bells
Good work on Oyston and thanks for your comments.

Yes, I actually agree with you about most readers (at least the ones who are ever likely to read about Owen Oyston) wouldn't ever have a clue about what a Baby Bell (or even a Regional Bell Operating company) is; but I also figured that telling them that they are American still doesn't tell the reader anything that substantially affects that lack of understanding. To make much sense of it, I reason that they will still have to look 'Baby Bell' (or 'RBOC') up - and when they do that, then it will be obvious that it is an exclusively US thing.

That is how I reason it; but there is no pride issue for me, so feel free to change it back you don't like ;) Finn (talk) 22:14, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Historic counties of England
You reverted unexplained changes made by unregistered User:90.206.69.92. The changes which he/she made are correct, and add value to the article as a neutral description of a somewhat contentious issue (i.e. was Monmouthshire part of England?) So, I've reverted your changes back again. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:08, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Western Shugden Society
You made substantial edits to the Western Shugden Society page, and also added a template stating that "This article or section is written like an advertisement." I can understand that removing some of the quotes about the demonstrations may help it seem less like an advertisement, but could you give any more guidance about what we could change on the article to make it suitable and remove the tag? Peaceful5 (talk) 06:38, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Dear Tangerines: You left a message on my user talk page, but I think it was meant for someone else? Emptymountains (talk) 18:03, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Kelsang Pema's letter says, "Between 1996 and 1998 the Western Shugden Society, a loose affiliation of Shugden practitioners from throughout the world, made repeated requests to the Dalai Lama to completely stop these actions of discrimination. They sent many petitions and letters to this end but, giving invalid reasons, he never accepted to stop these actions of discrimination" (see page 202). Things started in 1996 following the Dalai Lama's ban in March of that same year. If this helps, please feel free to update the article. Also see. Thanks! Emptymountains (talk) 00:26, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Please consider doing a "makeover" of the Dorje Shugden controversy article as well. It surely needs it! Emptymountains (talk) 00:48, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the infobox on the WSS page, you mentioned on my talk page that I didn't give reasons for changing it. I apologize for that. The reason I changed it is that the WSS is not an incorporated entity, and so doesn't have a legal non-profit status as far as I am aware. The WP entry on "NPO" says: "A non-profit organization (abbreviated "NPO", also "not-for-profit") is a legally constituted organization ..." I thought that the generic template would be more appropriate for this purpose. Also, there were other problems with the infobox as you'd originally written it. The list of key people was not correct ... it was just a list of the names that were mentioned in the article. It is true that Kelsang Pema has acted as a spokesperson for the organization, but since they "have no leader" it would be misleading to put a name in the infobox. Peaceful5 (talk) 06:57, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi there, I just added a note on Talk:Western Shugden Society about the application of the term "Godwin's Law" to K. Pema's statement. Could you read this and consider it? The Godwin's Law article affirms that this rule can be mis-applied, and does not apply to cases where there is an actual substantial parallel. There are only a limited number of cases that I am aware of where religious groups have been systematically denied use of various public services and generally labelled as traitors, etc. just because of their religious beliefs. The Nazi analogy is the first one that comes to mind, and there seems to be a substantial similarity here. That is definitely not to imply that Shugden practitioners will come to see the same fate, but the similarities still seem relevant. What do you think? Peaceful5 (talk) 04:48, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Forgive me - I'm new to Wikipedia editing and was not aware of how to use thse Talk pages or the "In use" tag. I'm not clear though why the statements concerning Tibetan chants (which did, in fact, constitute about half of the chanting - I was there throughout the demonstration and can verify this personally, although I understand that this isn't an acceptable WP source!) are any less valid than this statement: "Hundreds of the Dalai Lama supporters shouted "Long live the Dalai Lama"", which afaics is also unsourced.

I'm grateful, actually, to any genuinely neutral editor who can restore some objectivity to this article, but I can't help but feel that a bias is developing in the article now diue to your edits. Perhaps this is necessary, to find a middle ground - as you say, we can make any necessary amendments once you've finished: I believe we all do, in fact, want to provide a factual resource that is balanced, rather than a propaganda piece for either "side", so thank you for your efforts. Atisha&#39;s cook (talk) 15:47, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I see that you've added more content now, invalidating my previous accusation of bias! I think the article is much more balanced now, actually - thank you once again for taking the time to work on this and be a neutral arbiter - this is much appreciated. Better that people can read just the facts here on WP, and draw their own conclusions, rather than WP degenerating into a propaganda battleground. Atisha&#39;s cook (talk) 18:54, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Tangerines, your editing has been impressive. If you have a few spare hours, days or aeons, do have a go at improving the impossibly unwieldy and opaque Dorje Shugden Controversy article! (Truthbody (talk) 20:11, 17 September 2008 (UTC))

Tangerines - Help! I wonder if you might arbitrate on something? An unnamed editor (possibly kt66 - the IP address is from Italy) has edited a section regarding the Australian Sangha Association's view of NKT ordination in the "Perception of protests by others within the Buddhist community" section. I removed this because it seems to me irrelevant here, and just another attempt by this guy to further his agenda. Of course, he undid my deletion, so I've removed it again... I wonder if you'd take a look, in the history if he leaves my latest deletion intact, and make a decision? Whilst I feel that it's irrelevant info. on the Western Shugden Society article, I'd be prepared to accept your judgement as a neutral observer and stand by it. Many thanks! Atisha&#39;s cook (talk) 16:19, 24 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atisha's cook (talk • contribs)


 * Many thanks. I've restored the removed section including the ASA statement, as it existed yesterday, per your advice.Atisha&#39;s cook (talk) 21:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atisha's cook (talk • contribs)

Opening section of WSS article
Hi, thanks for your effort on the WSS article. I recognized that the opening section was not neutral and changed it and put my pov at the talk page. That there is a "ban of the Dharmapala etc." is the pov of WSS and this pov is not shared by all. Maybe you can have a look on this. To balance it I added HHDL's view as stated by BBC. Also I added a quote in the past that according to Atisha, the founder of the Kadam tradition, “The training of the Monk is such that of two hundred and fifty-three [rules].” it was removed later but I think it make sense because it supports the ASA pov. I wish not to contribute to the articles, mainly I checked if they are good enough to link them or not, then I recognized these two points. Thanks for your good work. --09:35, 26 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.171.58.252 (talk)

Rachel Tucker
As always, thanks for your clean-up work on Rachel Tucker's page. I am trying to be more careful with my referencing and general style, but it's always good to have your guidance.

Whilst I always appreciate your expereinced Wikipedia hand at wheel, I wasn't sure why you had removed the section I created on Rachel's nomination for a Theatrical Management Award. You normally provide me with fair and legitimate reasons for any edits you make to my additions, and on this occasion you hadn't, so I assumed it had been removed in error. Reverting it back was not to undo any of your edits on Tommy etc..., but simply to include something that I thought had been removed accidentally. The TMA nomination was sourced, and as Rachel is in the company of other nominees like Brenda Blethyn and Brian Conley, I assumed this would be a welcome addition to her Wizard of Oz section.

http://www.tmauk.org/awards/theatrenoms2008.aspx

Daibh (talk) 19:54, 07 October 2008 (UTC) Apologies! I see you have simply moved it to a different area. Sorry for the confusion Daibh (talk) 19:55, 07 October 2008 (UTC)

Santos
I won't edit while "in use" but thought I'd let you know about this ref if you hadn't seen it: cheers. --Jameboy (talk) 21:04, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries. If you have Firefox you can do: Right-click -> This Frame -> Show only this frame to give you the frame URL. Not sure about IE but there's probably something similar. Cheers. --Jameboy (talk) 21:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Ending a discussion and removing a CFD notice
I need a little help -- thanks for letting me know I could ask questions here. On September 30th, User:Otto4711 placed a CFD notice on a category I created - Category:Radio Tales. The link to that CFD discussion is here: Category for Discussion:Radio Tales link. Otto4711 and I discussed the issue on September 30th, and then Otto4711 didn't post again, and no one else has contributed since. The discussion does not seem resolved, but isn't going anywhere. I posted a WO:30 at this link: Wikipedia:Third opinion, as User:PrinceOfCanada suggested I do, on October 1st. There have been no responses. What should I do next? The CFD notice is still on the Category:Radio Tales page, and I'd like to resolve the issue. Thanks in advance for your help! Soundout (talk) 14:48, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Roller Racer
Thanks Man! Mech Aaron (talk) 02:38, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Blackpool F.C. season 1916–17
Nicely done. Pain in the arse but well worth it, no? - Dudesleeper / Talk  17:45, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * As an aside, I've been having an e-mail conversation with Dylan Kerr over the last few months (trying to get him a job coaching kids here in the States), and he says his time on loan at 'Pool were "the best three of months of [his] life". He has nothing but praise for Billy Ayre, although he was annoyed he didn't sign him permanently (I explained that Owen Oyston was pretty much pulling the strings by that point). Ayre "battered" him after a game because he whispered something to Dave Bamber.


 * He still claims his goal in this goal was a shot, not a cross. - Dudesleeper / Talk  00:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Not so much with Burnley fans, because they've likely been several times, but I wonder how many visiting fans came once, never to return, what with our high standard of comfort offered. Which forum did it appear on? - Dudesleeper / Talk  01:05, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Never mind - found it. - Dudesleeper / Talk  11:29, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, mind checking the result on 23 December? Calley's book has it as Blackpool 3-2 Blackburn, with Williamson scoring a hat-trick. The Khaki Years book has it as 2-1, with Williamson getting both of 'Pool's goals? - Dudesleeper / Talk  12:00, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Danny Mitchley
Yeah, he should only possess an article once he's made his debut for the club (league or cup). - Dudesleeper / Talk  21:23, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Must say it's been nice to read the views of opposing managers on Blackpool this and last season. - Dudesleeper / Talk  00:44, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Eric Sibley
According to here, Sibley became player-manager at "Lytham" as his career came to a close. Any idea what club that might be? A reference would be needed of course, but you know more about clubs local to Blackpool than I do. - Dudesleeper / Talk  21:35, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Harry Allen
My apologies. I missed that one. Cheers Paul Largo (talk) 18:03, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Suleman Mirza
I have nominated Suleman Mirza, an article you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Suleman Mirza. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. J Milburn (talk) 08:23, 28 October 2008 (UTC) J Milburn (talk) 08:23, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Blackpool Video Tour
I added a link to a website which gives a video tour of blackpool. It was removed because it was not deemed relevant. I fail to see how it is any less relevant to blackpool than many other of the exisiting external links. It shows you what the place looks like. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bastywebb (talk • contribs)  22:59, 29 October 2008(UTC)


 * It's not about relevancy, it's about the number of articles you added the link to (see WP:Spam). Please refrain from making such edits in the future. - Dudesleeper / Talk  23:22, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Blackpool Airport
Are you sure all flights from Blackpool on Jet2 are seasonal ? Airline website shows that Alicante flights operate throught the winter Pmbma (talk) 15:26, 30 October 2008 (UTC)Pmbma

List of ultra groups
Nice work. --John (talk) 18:49, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Ballaugh (parish)
Hi. The article says The name 'Ballaugh' derives from the Manx "Balley-ny-Loghey" or "the place of the lake". However, this link says "farm of the lake" and this link says "homestead of the lake". By the way you should try to nominate the article at T:DYKT. Punkmorten (talk) 10:29, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Lennox Hearth Products
I removed the spam tag from this article, as it seems to be relatively neutral and not advertising like at all. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:18, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry for not signing. A brief lapse.  I'm usually much more careful.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:18, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi Tangerines,

I've add a new discussion topic here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Blackpool_F.C.#Presentation_of_info_already_available_at_the_links_provided

I would be very grateful if you may be able to spare a moment to take a look and offer your input. Any assistance is much appreciated

Best regards, Socheid (talk) 10:55, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: How Not to Live Your Life
I just posted the following in the talk page: "It seems that my edit has been reverted. I watched both the pilot AND the first episode of Season One, and they were exactly the same. I think my edit should be put back." Talk:How_Not_to_Live_Your_Life —Preceding unsigned comment added by Svivian (talk • contribs) 19:21, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism warning levels
Hello, I saw your name when reverting vandalism and I wanted to ask you about when to choose level 1 vs. level 2. I've been using Twinkle and I have been working on the assumption that level 1 warnings are for edits that might have been made by fooling around or for tests, and that level 2 and higher warnings are for when it is obvious that the vandalism (blanking, whatever) is deliberate. Am I right?

I would also like to know if when using Twinkle, the user's talk page automatically pops up, because for me it doesn't and it slows down my response. I hope you don't mind my questions. Thank you. Loves Macs  (talk) 00:16, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I am still sometimes unsure whether something has been done intentionally, so my warnings may be a little inconsistent until I get a better feel of how things work. Thanks! Loves  Macs  (talk) 02:51, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Blackpool FC Youth Department & Centre of Excellence
I'm not sure about where it should be located, to be honest. I'd ask at WP:Football. - Dudesleeper / Talk  23:00, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Bispham, Blackpool
quote Just to let you know that St. Bernadette RC Church is not on Fleetwood Road and is not to the north of Bispham village. The church is on Devonshire Road opposite Salwick Avenue in Bispham, with the school next door and then the Red Lion, all of which are in Bispham and on Devonshire Road not Fleetwood Road. The postal address is 26 All Hallows Road, where the church hall is also located (both in the village). Please see here, Devonshire Road only becomes Fleetwood Road, going toward Mossom Lane. Also there is no article for Little Carleton so no need to link to it. Thanks and have fun.-- ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 03:28, 5 November 2008 (UTC)quote

Ah you're right about Fleetwood road (north) and (it was worth a try lol)....

Is anyone (or you) going to start a page about 'Little Carleton'? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.248.31 (talk) 19:48, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * How about starting Carleton first? - Dudesleeper / Talk  21:45, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Well you have the 'CASTLE GARDEN'S' alehouse, and a Crematorium..there's a start for the 'Carleton' article eh!.. I'm more concerned with 'Little Carleton' which begins at the end of Hollyoake Rd and ends on 'Moor Park ave' : "Greenlands St. Anne church, Salmesbury Avenue located in Little Carleton" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.248.31 (talk) 22:04, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Stalmine
See here for some photos of Stalmine. I was going to add a couple, but I think the article would benefit from being expanded first. Do you have access to any historical information about the village? - Dudesleeper / Talk  22:53, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Katy Prairie Conservancy
Thank you so much for helping Katy Prairie Conservancy to editing the page. For all the pictures that we have on that page were taking by our photographer and we want to credit him for those. Can you please help us to edit it? Or if not, Can you please explain to me the reason why we can't? Thank you. Katy Prairie Conservancy (talk) 18:31, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Jimmy Armfield
Dear Sir,

I see that you have been writing about Jimmy Armfield. If you would like a small piece of information on your protégé, which is quite interesting and informative, then please email me at

leightonmowbray@yahoo.co.uk

Yours faithfully

Leighton Mowbray —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leightonmowbray (talk • contribs) 21:39, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Harold Keenan
It seems we have a discrepancy with Keenan's stats for 1917–18. Your book has him making 34 appearances, while mine has him as being ever-present in all 36 games. Also, Calley's book states Dunn made eighteen appearances, with Connor being second in appearances with 34. - Dudesleeper / Talk  16:35, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Tony Williams
Sorry, for removing Tony: there were a few non-notables added by a couple of ip addresses, and Tony Williams was showing up as a red link, so I removed him at the same time. I misread the head of the section thinking it was for people born in Blackpool. Thanks for sorting it out. --Geoff Riley (talk) 20:59, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Shugden controversy
Hi, maybe you have some time to help to balance the article on Dorje Shugden Controversy and give comments on the use of sources. I will help after the 12.12.08 and in urgent cases, when certain decisions have to been made. Thanks a lot, --Kt66 (talk) 16:15, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

1999-2000
Any idea who took temporary charge of 'Pool in between Worthington's departure and McMahon's arrival? David Bardsley rings a bell, but I can't find anything on it. - Dudesleeper / Talk  09:17, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

North West Counties League Divisional Articles
It's not so much a move, it's just I don't see anything in the Divisional articles that wouldn't be a lot better in the main league article. In fact, is there anything at all in the divisional articles not already present in the main league article? It's a process that's happened with virtually all the other Step 5 & 6 leagues. I'm sure there has been some brief discussion somewhere (possibly under the Non-League sub project), but as always, more discussion wouldn't hurt! - fchd (talk) 20:07, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Portal:Tibet
Now created! Merry Christmas! The Bald One       White cat 17:12, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
 Hello Tangerines! I just wanted to wish you and your family a merry Christmas! May this Christmas be full of great cheer and holiday spirit. Have a great day and a wonderful New Year, from  The Bald One       White cat 11:30, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Synamed
An article that you have been involved in editing, Synamed, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/Synamed. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Careful Cowboy (talk • contribs) 02:03, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Proposed change to article guidelines
Tangerines, I have suggested a change to our article guidelines here. As an active contributor to the project, I value your comments. Thomprod (talk) 14:37, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

DJ Campbell
I see you added the under construction banner, but what are you actually planning to do? Skitzo (talk) 16:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Same difference really, just wondered why you added the tag, i work on several and have never added them... Skitzo (talk) 16:50, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

no probs. Skitzo (talk) 21:27, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Original names of football clubs
Thanks for explaining about the bolding. Is there anywhere I can find all of these little rules? (To me it seems a bit petty, but I do not want to cause trouble, but Samurio gives no explanation like you did)  RPFC (talk) 15:46, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Edit at Blackpool Wren Rovers
Sorry to ask another question. If A.F.C. Blackpool is supposed to show as AFC Blackpool why isn't their page moved from A.F.C. Blackpool to AFC Blackpool? RPFC (talk) 18:52, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Remove spam link
There is a spam link on the Blackpool page which I removed and you have placed back on to that page by undoing what i did. The spam link is in the External Links and is titled Blackpool History. 'Blackpool4me dot com' is not an offical Blackpool website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Utalkersay (talk • contribs) 17:37, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Its ok I have done it you can check —Preceding unsigned comment added by Utalkersay (talk • contribs) 17:45, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Response
You recently put this on my user page - "Please stop removing F.C. from infoboxes where the football club is also the name of the town/area. I'm sorry I don't see your point - what has this got to do with the price of chips? Aside from the 4 articles you've reverted (and a few Prem clubs) where else is FC included? The precedent has long been set if you look at any other football club's article. Your claim about it being the same as a town? Do you think people will be confused? Well thats quite laughable and illogical what with them reading an article with F.C. in the title! Please stop reverting blindly and be more cautious. Sarumio (talk) 22:22, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

re dudesleeper
I read your message with interest. You may note that the dispute arose due to the member in question's persistent erasing of true information even though referenced to a reliable public source. Member refused to justify the rejection of the reference and suppressed the information. My response was to reinstate it, including both the reliable reference and a tabloid article which satisfied his limited and illogical criteria. The 'award' was nothing more than alittle joke playing on the reference to an expression of life confined within wikipedia's guidelines without allowing onself scope to exceed non-exhaustive criteria. It seems the irony was not appreciated, but no hard feelings were intended. It would be most practical if any reply were made through the same messaging system you employed before. 92.15.59.193 (talk) 03:38, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Sarumio
I've stayed off for a few days and calmed down. I'll learn to ignore you know who. At least s/he has replied on his/her page to me. However, they've been editing via Salsibury College as well. RPFC (talk) 12:08, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Fylde Football League
You might be the person to answer this. I've no idea, personally. - Dudesleeper / Talk  13:33, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

JOHN ROSSALL
John &amp; Shelia Rossall

Hi, can you help place these people on your notable section, John Rossall playing and sang in 70's pop band the glitter band, Sheila Rossall sang in New Pikittywitch and was famous for having a rare alergy in the 80's, all of which can be verified on the internetm John Rossall see http://www.glitterband.com Both born and Bred in Blackpool! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Glitterband2008 (talk • contribs) 18:17, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Blackpool tower ballroom
Hi,

The additions I have mad to the Tower Ballroom are 100% correct. I have lived in Blackpool for over 30 years, and have appeared at the ballroom both as a musician and singer on countless occassions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.16.46.5 (talk) 08:10, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


 * That's nice, but you're obviously not reading edit summaries. - Dudesleeper / Talk  11:12, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi my email address is robertparkes1953@hotmail.co.uk ANYONE wanting proof of my addition to the ballroom page, just ask !! Rob Parkes (Robert Young) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.16.46.5 (talk • contribs) 02:15, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * [Slaps head]. I'll get right on that. - Dudesleeper / Talk  02:59, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Alex John-Baptiste
We're supposed to go by common names for article titles, so I think it's located correctly. - Dudesleeper / Talk  02:59, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

West Lancashire derby
Regarding players, do you think we should include players who joined one club on loan from the other? Andrew Lonergan joined 'Pool from P.N.E. on loan in 2003, but I'm unsure whether or not we should just stick to permanent transfers. - Dudesleeper / Talk  14:51, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Blackpool
I live in Blackpool and I would class it as a 'large town'. We are the 4th largest settlement in the NW, we have a higher population than Preston (131,000) and also smaller towns like Blackburn (105,000), Wigan (c.90,000) and Burnley (73,000) are classed as 'large towns'. I feel it is justified. Christian1985 (talk) 10:42, 22 February 2009 (UTC)