User talk:Tannakin

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Could you please describe what you mean by errors on the Voyant Tools image on the DH page that you removed? -Catsandthings (talk) 20:54, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Sure. The picture you had inserted was a view of Hamlet, and Voyant leaves speaker names in the frequency counts because they're using the Moby Shakespeare and want to have the reading pane draw from the same text as all the analysis. However, if you think about it, every line that Hamlet speaks is prefaced by his name, as in "HAMLET. To be or not to be..." which throws off a ton of the text analysis tools that rely on frequency and word location. Visualizing English Print has a version without speaker names and stage directions, but obv then the reading pane would look weird. If you wanted to use Voyant, the Austen corpus is a better reflection of the plug-and-play ability of the tool without customization, plus, hey, it's a corpus by a woman. But I'm not a huge fan of one the two default corpora being one that doesn't work well with the tool as is. Otherwise, I think Voyant is great. But it's got a ton of press as is, and I thought it might be cool to highlight a lesser known tool.Tannakin (talk) 17:47, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

The VEP corpora are under a CC BY-NC-SA license, which is not compatible with Wikipedia's requirements for images, whereas the other version is in the public domain. The speaker names are an issue, but as a demonstration of what happens when a text is copied and pasted into Voyant, the image is correct in that respect. The benefit of Voyant is that it is very accessible as an introduction to textual analysis, isn't limited to a certain type of text, and requires no program to download (unlike Poemage). A very well-known text from Shakespeare or Austen is preferable to one from a more obscure poet, and despite the word cloud sometimes being overused, the Voyant images seem more visually appealing than the Poemage one. Voyant may be familiar in certain circles, but those coming to this page may never have heard of it, so that's not in itself a good reason to avoid using it. I would suggest moving the Poemage image to a later section on visualization as an example and creating an Austen-based Voyant screenshot for the top, which creates the first impression. -Catsandthings (talk) 21:01, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

That's fine by me. Tannakin (talk) 18:36, 13 January 2017 (UTC)