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Sunni view
Among Sunni Muslims, the Ghadir Khumm is associated with the succession to Muhammad in the spiritual context and Hazrat Ali was established as a guide or wali(guardian) to all muslims. However this was not in the context of the rule of governance.The Sunni Muslims dont agree that Hazrat Ali should have been the first Khalifa and accept Hazrat Abu bakr, Hazrat Umar and Hazrat Usmaan as rightly guided Khalifa's. The Sunni's believe that the Legacy of Spiritual Leadership after the Holy Prophet Muhammad S.A.S continued to Hazrat Ali R.A. However the successor in terms of the rule of governance was left for the muslims to choose and the Holy Prophet did not name anybody in this regards.

This is evident from the following hadith from sunni scholars

It is narrated by Ammar bin Yasir that the  Messenger of Allah  said: whoso believed me and endorsed me, I shall pass on to him the legacy of Ali's  spiritual leadership. Anyone who regarded him(Syedina Ali (radiallahu taala anhu) ) as his guardian, he regarded me as his guardian, and anyone who regarded me as his guardian, he regarded Allah as his Guardian, and anyone who loved him (Ali), he loved me  and one who loved me loved Allah ,and one who bore malice towards him (Ali) bore malice towards me and one  who bore malice towards me bore malice towards Allah

The word master in the Ghadeer Declaration "One who has me as his Mawla has Ali as his Mawla" is interpreted by Sunni Scholars as Master or wali in the Spiritual sense.

The succession of spiritual leadership is also very evident in the following saying of the Holy Prophet Muhammed narrated by Sunni Scholars. The phrase "after me" here suggests succession.

The Holy Prophet (Sallalaahu Alaihi wasallam) said: "Verily, Ali and I are inseparable, and he is the master (wali) of every believer after me."

The Arabic phrase in the hadith "wali kull mumin baedi" means wali or guaridan of all believers after me

Sunni Scholars regard the Declaration of Ghadeer Khum to be very important to one's faith. The following hadith from sunni scholars shows this importance.

Two Bedouins came quarelling to Hazrat Umar who said to Hazrat Ali ,"              O Abul-Hassan, Please settle the dispute between these two". Thereafter, Hazrat Ali made his judgement in favour of one of them.One of the men remarked, "Is he all who remained to settle our dispute".On hearing this Hazrat Umar leapt towards the man and grabbed him by the neck (and lifted him off the ground) and said, "Do you know who he is". He is my and every Momins Maula (Master). Whoever does not consider him his Maula is not a Momin.

August 2022
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 * The information in Sunni View is totally incorrect Tansjava (talk) 21:15, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by inserting unpublished information or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Ghadir Khumm. PohranicniStraze (talk) 21:08, 13 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, I think the section about Sunni View is wrong. What can i do about it Tansjava (talk) 21:14, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
 * You would need to find a reliable source to that effect. Adding your own opinion or interpretation is original research, which is not permitted. PohranicniStraze (talk) 01:23, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * iam not adding my own opinion, simply the opinion of numerous sunni scholars. Iam also sunni. for your reference iam giving a book from a great sunni scholar which contains all sound sayings with numerous references for each saying from the Holy Prophet
 * https://www.minhajbooks.com/images-books/ghadir-declaration/ghadir-declaration_1.pdf Tansjava (talk) 06:34, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * you can just read the preface in the book Tansjava (talk) 07:17, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Just read the first page of the preface which is page 5 of this book as you may be very busy Tansjava (talk) 11:25, 14 August 2022 (UTC)