User talk:Taparchives

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August 2012
Welcome to Wikipedia. I saw your changes to Ian McKellen, and I noticed that the username you have chosen, "Taparchives", seems to imply that you are editing on behalf of a group, company or website. Please note that Wikipedia does not allow usernames that are promotional or appear to be shared by multiple people. Please take a moment to create a new account or request a username change that represents only yourself as an individual. You should also read our conflict of interest guideline and remember that promotional editing is not acceptable regardless of the username you choose. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. Thank you. Your recent edits suggest that you're editing on behalf of this archive. GabrielF (talk) 15:22, 1 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello, I am editing on behalf on the Victoria and Museum (London, England) Department of Theatre and Performance and am only adding links to archive catalogues written by us relating to individuals in the performing arts, all of which are available to access free on-line. We are non-profit and links are provided in good faith as educational tools and for academic reference. Taparchives (talk) 15:33, 1 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, as noted below, you will need to use a different username. See the instructions below.  Looking forward to seeing you under your new name.  All the best!  -- Ssilvers (talk) 09:44, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Theatre Royal, Dury Lane
Hello, please refrain from adding raw links such as you did here. Please see WP:CITE and WP:REFSTART for further guidence. Many thanks. -- CassiantoTalk 16:22, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Archives
Hello. Thank you for your additions. Unfortunately, links to external sites are not permitted from within the main text of Wikipedia articles. I have moved the link from the main text to "External links" in the Noel Coward article, so you can see how to do it. If you'd be so kind as to do the same for all your other additions it will obviate the necessity of reverting them. Tim riley (talk) 18:02, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Afterthought. The above must seem rather po-faced and off-putting (though correct). May I add that I shall be at your service if I can be of any help in your contributions to Wikipedia? I have had useful and agreeable contacts with the British Library lately, as have many Wiki-colleagues, and it would be nice to roll out the welcome mat for the V&A. Best wishes. Tim riley (talk) 18:13, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, welcome! As you can see from Tim's edit at Noel Coward, it is OK to add a link to the specific page within the museum's collection as an "External link" at the bottom, rather than as a new section called "Archives".  We will be happy to help you format these. All the best!  -- Ssilvers (talk) 09:42, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Additions of http://.archiveshub.ac.uk
Please stop. If you continue spamming Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing.--Hu12 (talk) 18:39, 1 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello, V&A museum folk. Please see above from Tim riley and me.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 09:46, 2 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello to Tim riley and Ssilvers. Your guidance would be very much appreciated.  I seem to have come a cropper recently and have had a number of varying (and not always consistant) responses from some wikipedia editors.  To clarify, I would like to post appropriate links (under "External link", now that I know!) on the pages of certain performers and institutions connected with performing arts in the UK.  Under a different username would this be allowed?  I would also be interested to know more about how Wikipedia has been working with the British Library.  Many thanks.

Please change user name
This account has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia because your username, Taparchives, does not meet our username policy. '''Your username is the only reason for this block. You are welcome to choose a new username (see below).''' A username should not be promotional, related to a "real-world" group or organization, misleading, offensive, or disruptive. Also, usernames may not end in the word "bot" unless the account is an approved bot account. You are encouraged to choose a new account name that meets our policy guidelines. Alternatively, if you have already made edits and you wish to keep your existing contributions under a new name, then you may request a change in username by:
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If you feel that you were blocked in error, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. Daniel Case (talk) 04:54, 2 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Now that you know that you can't add links to your website, what else do you plan to do if unblocked? Max Semenik (talk) 10:55, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi there, we are of course interested in getting useful resources added to the encyclopedia. The problem is, not everyone's definition of "useful" is the same, and there is a danger that your edits create the appearance of promoting the organisation you work for (see WP:COI). Before unblocking your account, would you give me your assurance that, before placing any more external links on articles, that you will post on WP:ELN to gauge the support for these links and to get advice on how they should be formatted. Also, it would be advisable to request a new username (see WP:CHU) to avoid this issue coming up again. Regards &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:37, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Hello Martin and thank you for your response.

I would be happy to appeal to the WP:ELN forum, and would be grateful for any advice given. Indeed, this is all I have ever asked for. My intention was only ever to provide these links correctly, in a format which wikipedia was happy with. Unfortunately this seems to be difficult since I am yet to see any consistency within wikipedia regarding its stance on external links to archives.

A number of points worth mentioning; I would be happy to change my username, indeed I have already made one request to do so and was denied, I would also be happy to change the format of these links and will follow all and any advice given as to placement and wording etc. Also I would like to state, once again, that I do not work for or represent the site I will be adding links to. Furthermore, according to the COI page, users are not to write about "things unless you are certain that a neutral editor would agree that your edits improve Wikipedia." - I am certain that these links do indeed improve wikipedia and judging by the many examples of external links to archives I have provided above, many wikipedia editors seems to think so too.

While I'm here I should like to add that I am slightly incredulous that once again I seem to have had my request to be unblocked denied due to not having responded to your question 'in time'. I am responding now, a day later - surely this is timely enough? I am unaware of any time limit given for responding to wikipedia editors. Your colleague gave me four days, you've given me one. Perhaps if you absolutely require a response within a set time-frame in future it would be helpful if you mentioned this, to avoid this sort of back-and-forth.

I reiterate I would welcome any advice on how to constructively fix this problem!
 * I have unblocked your account. There is no time limit for responding, but we try to clear the unblock requests so that it contains just the active requests. Anyway I was watching your page, so there was no problem. Best regards &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:28, 13 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Martin, thank you for your response. I am really pleased to finally get these issues resolved.  I am still unsure as to placement however.  There seem to be a number of places the links could go:
 * 1. Under its own ==Archives== heading, as seen here
 * 2. Under ==External links==, as seen here
 * 3. Under an ===Archives=== sub-heading under the greater ==External links==, as seen here
 * 4. When the link refers to the definitive archive of an individual/institution, can it have its own page, as seen here, or will one of the options apply?
 * Many thanks.

Username
Thinking about your username some more, I'm not sure that I understand the problem with it. It is not the name of any organisation or company. The connection between taparchives and archiveshub is tenuous, and you've already asserted that you have no link with that website anyway. So, perhaps it will not be necessary to change usernames ... &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:56, 13 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks again for resolving the issue of the username.

Per Martin's request, I have looked over the record to explain why I made the username block. The user had been adding links to the "Victoria and Albert Museum London, Department of Theatre and Performance." The last three words acronymize to "TAP", hence the block on the grounds that a specific organization was being promoted. Daniel Case (talk) 14:36, 14 September 2012 (UTC)


 * In response to this I'd like to state, once again, that the links were all for pages at archiveshub.ac.uk. None of the links were for pages at the V&A website.