User talk:Tarc09

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Speedy deletion nomination of 18 Wheels Of Steel Extreme Trucker
A tag has been placed on 18 Wheels Of Steel Extreme Trucker, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as FAQ/Business for more information. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Dcheagle (talk) 00:06, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi, just felt like adding this wee article, even though I am not experienced in editing in Wikipedia. If I violated something, just delete it, I just spent 2 hours on it, I don't even understand why, myself. Not important to me at all. Did not intend to promote anything, I don't quite understand why, so if you can let me know please. ThanksTarc09 (talk) 00:12, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

May i suggest that you first try working on the article in a subpage like this one User:Tarc09/18 wheels before you post it to the main space. If you have any questions fell free to ask at my talk page and i will get back to you as soon as i can.--Dcheagle (talk) 00:28, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

So the problem with that certain page was that I created it as a main page then edited lots of times? I understand it then, every page should be a draft till its completed; then posted only after that right? I don't think I will make any pages here though, as I don't even understand why it was deleted. Promoting something, that's what I suppose from the above Tarc09 (talk) 14:10, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It was deleted because the page had no sources to back up what you put in the page i advise you to create the article in the user page above its the one with the red link. if you create it there and add references to back it up it should be able to remain on the main space. if you have any more questions please fell free to ask me here or at my talk page.--Dcheagle (talk) 23:21, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

OK so first of all thanks for the help. I appreciate it. I've just realized it: that it's important to have proper sources to prove the validity of every content on Wikipedia. Although I did put an external link on the page I created, which links to the official page. What I wrote was not exactly the same as the one in the resource, word by word, but I remember reading it in the tutorial on Wiki that we doesn't need to quote from the resources, what is more, it's advised to use your own words. That's what I did, and spend much time trying to make the content be proper, with nothing more than facts about the game: Representing it as shortly as possible with stating facts only. So after all, I still don't quite understand. Do you see my point? Would appreciate if you gave further help. Maybe "citations" are needed for every sentence I write...? Tarc09 (talk) 19:55, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry finally im able to get back to you. I really didnt see the point that you are trying to make so If you will please post any questions that you might have and i will try to the best of my ability answer them for you. So please ether post your questions here or at my User_talk:Dcheagle and i will get back to you as soon as i can.--Dcheagle (talk) 15:06, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

OK just to let you know i have requested a Copy of the Deleted page from an admin that i some times work with if im able to get that copy I will be able to show you in a better way of what you need to do.--Dcheagle (talk) 15:11, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for the time and attention you spend. I had no idea you wouldn't understand what I wrote as my last response. There was no "point" I was gonna make, simply tried to figure out what I did wrong. If you get back to me with the copy of that page, showing what I need to do, that's great, otherwise it's not even important. Before I wrote and posted that page, I went through Wikipedia's tips about creating a page, where they advise everyone to use external links to back up what you write. Further on on that same page I read that what you write does not necessarily have to be exactly how it's written in the source, but you can use your own words (What is more, it was suggested instead). So I went on and wrote about the game, and inserted the game's official page as well - so I didn't really get why it was deleted - I did read it was due to having no sources to back it up.
 * Ok the admin that i know will be emailing me a copy of the page at some point today so that will help me show you some things. And I now know what you need help with and i will explain it the best way that i can.

To Start off External links have a whole other thing to do with it. The reason that the page was deleted was be cause it meet the G11. Criteria for speedy deletion which if you what to look at this criteria you can go here Criteria for Speedy Deletion And the reason it meet this criteria is because you didnt post any References as to where you got the information and one of the pest places to find these references is to look at third party sites that are in now way connected to the game it self but you can use Refs for the game site it self if need be but it would be better to have the third party site. When i get the copy I will try to locate some refs for it and go about the changes that need to be made then i will show you what i did and explain it to you with the add of the copy. And as Games are not my area of expertise i will consult with the Game Wiki project to get more info into how a game page should be formatted. And hopefully i will be able to help you fix the page to the point that we can put it back on the main space.--Dcheagle (talk) 15:37, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi, and thank you. I understand it now. I only put an external link isntead of refs. Please save the time and don't hassle looking at the page for what to change, or contacting another department. I used my own words, so probably nothing is exactly the same way as on the game's official page. Before creating the page, however, I did take a look at another already created page of another installment of the game series, to see what mine should look like. I may try to redo it later, or leave it completely. Thanks for your time again and all the advice. Tarc09 (talk) 17:09, 22 October 2009 (UTC)