User talk:Tariqabjotu/Archive Fifty-Five

Ichthus: January 2012


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Religion and sexuality
Why is it OK for you to stand there and insult me as an editor because I think gay pornography is ill-suited to the fornt page of wikipedia? As I said I have no problems with us having articles on it. But yes the words "gay pornography" stand out when you're eating your lunch and my personal opinion is it was not the sort of time you want to be reading about such material. I wouldn't dare insult your integrity as an editor because you are a Muslim amd believe in Mohammed and Alla. You have a set of beliefs, I have mine. You seem to have misinterpreted my comments on it appearing on the main page as a homophobic attack or something. Not at all. But there is a reason gay or any pornography is not advertised in mainstream daily television and that certain topics are generally evaded. That was my point. But there was absolutely no need for you to turn up as you did and resort to personal attacks on me and insult everything I've done as an editor.♦ Dr. Blofeld  22:44, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * On the contrary, Tariqabjotu expressed concern that someone with your accomplishments as an editor would advance an argument radically inconsistent with Wikipedia's principles.
 * Tariqabjotu didn't allege homophobia on your part, but remarks along the lines of "whether some gays waving colored flags fully support them or not" (equating gay rights activism with pornography) don't help your case. —David Levy 22:54, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * He turned up in anger and outrage at the thought that I would even remotely not want to see talk of gay pornography appearing on my PC screen whilst eating lunch and assumed I was a mad anti-gay porn fuddy duddy condemning the youth of today for their morality or something. That was exactly what he thought. As I said I have nothing against that sort of content appearing on wikipedia but yes it was distasteful in my personal opinion to see such topics appear on my computer screen when about to eat in the middle of the day and I'm surely not the only person who is of that opinion given the fact that they won't show Jenna Jameson as a featured article because they'll get complaints. I am very aware that this sort of content appears regularly on wikipedia and is generally considered acceptable, but I wanted to see how much it is considered acceptable, and quickly learned universally so, amongst the wikipedia community. What I won't accept is you resorting to personal attacks on everything I've done for wikipedia because I find one article inappropriate reading material. ♦ Dr. Blofeld  23:04, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * He turned up in anger and outrage at the thought that I would even remotely not want to see talk of gay pornography appearing on my PC screen whilst eating lunch and assumed I was a mad anti-gay porn fuddy duddy condemning the youth of today for their morality or something. That was exactly what he thought.
 * Are you a mind-reader?
 * As I said I have nothing against that sort of content appearing on wikipedia but yes it was distasteful in my personal opinion to see such topics appear on my computer screen when about to eat in the middle of the day
 * The operative words are "in my personal opinion". You want us to ban main page content that you deem "distasteful" (at least during lunchtime in your time zone).
 * and I'm surely not the only person who is of that opinion given the fact that they won't show Jenna Jameson as a featured article because they'll get complaints
 * Translation: "Raul654's desire to avoid being confronted by villagers with torches and pitchforks proves that the angry mob's position is legitimate!"
 * What I won't accept is you resorting to personal attacks on everything I've done for wikipedia because I find one article inappropriate reading material.
 * I assume that you're referring to Tariqabjotu. Again, that's an inaccurate description of his comments.  —David Levy 23:23, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Most world religions strongly oppose sodomy and acts of behaviour which encourage people to indulge in it. Gay pornography is offensive material to many but you have such a radical view on wikipedia content that you fail to see that many people find it offensive and completely inappropriate for showcasing on the main page of wikipedia. And must you really write everywhere in green text as if you are a wikilord tlaking to the pauper? It comes across as very patronising.♦ Dr. Blofeld  11:25, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * This is the problem. In the course of making your point, you mentioned how you wouldn't give me a hard time for, for example, my religious views. And, you're right, you shouldn't. Unless I, for example, decided to impress my religious beliefs on Wikipedia by demanding that encyclopedic, tactful references to concepts deemed unacceptable in my religion be kept off our Main Page. Your opinion of pornography -- gay or otherwise -- is your opinion, and while I may (or may not) disagree on it, that is neither here nor there. The issue is not that you have these views. The issue is that you demand Wikipedia (or at least its Main Page) operate in a way that caters to them. As you should have observed in the near-unanimous objection to your position, your stance on this goes against everything Wikipedia stands for as a free encyclopedia. --  tariq abjotu  11:50, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Whilst I am not a Christian myself and dispute a lot a things in the bible, I come from a strong Christian background and such material is considered very offensive and sinful to Christians. Although you state you are a religious pluralist you have insulted the religion of my family because Christians consider it offensive. You turned up in outrage that I would even be remotely bothered by the appearance of a gay pornographic film on the front page of wikipedia yet you are missing that the vast majority of world religions consider it offensive material which should not be encouraged. As I said I have no problem with many articles on it but featuring them on the main page amongst other material does stand out to me. But you made an attack on me as an editor when I can't help the background I grew up in which teaches that it is a wicked act. I just think there is a time and place for pornography and daytime showcasing on the main page of one of the world's biggest websites is radical, you can't dispute that. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:04, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for proving my point. --  tariq abjotu  12:08, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The contradiction though is that Islam considers it sinful, yet you fully support it. ♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:40, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not an idiot; I know Islam's view on homosexuality. But I also understand that on a global project like Wikipedia, I can't allow my religious beliefs (or the predominant views in my faith) to dictate what the project does. Your six years here have obviously been a waste if you can't grasp this simple point. --  tariq abjotu  12:48, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Your strong reaction indicates you a] support gay pornography and b] are quite excited with the idea that wikipedia is so radical it permits coverage it on the main page. Yet you claim to be a Muslim and that the idea of wikipedia being completely devoid of standards and free to any topic, however offensive to some, are considered more important than your religious beliefs. No, you should not let your views tamper with the devleopment of the project, but you showed a complete outrage that somebody might show a distaste to gay pornography on the main page of wikipedia, you were very vocal about it. Yes, the point I've got from my six years experience on wikipedia is that it accepts all kinds of shit which most of the public are likely to laugh at that wikipedia could even call itself an encyclopedia and very few of us are actively improving content. Not to mention a distinct lack of respect for fellow editors and ganging up.Very true. ♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:57, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It's not even worth trying to argue with you. Rarely have I seen stubbornness and arrogance as strong as yours. Please desist from carrying on this topic here. --  tariq abjotu  18:06, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

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File:Jaranda.png listed for deletion
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Jaranda.png, has been listed at Files for deletion. Please see the to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Cloudbound (talk) 22:18, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

The fog picture of Istanbul...
The fog picture of Istanbul will mislead the readers, because thick fog is not a dominant weather pattern, unlike in San Francisco.

Fog is less pronounced in Istanbul, because it often dissipates by noon or afternoon and it does not frequently last the whole day. Paralyzing fogs that last the entire day, are not more common than the number of days or weeks with snow. I know, because I live in Istanbul, and have lived in San Francisco.

However, to be fair, unlike snow which always occurs between November and March lasting for a week or two, fog does occur in every season. — Preceding unsigned comment added by88.224.149.40 (talk) 23:51, 31 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. If you are the person who kept removing that photo, thank you for finally telling me why. I'll attach that as a decent reason. The picture is great, but if it's not representative, that's a problem. So, how about this one? The fog is much less dense and it's acceptable for use on Wikipedia. --  tariq abjotu  00:05, 1 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Your picture showing Levent shrouded in fog is in indeed great, and fogs like this are common during the mornings, as the text already states it below this picture. The issue had nothing to do with the picture itself nor am I against its removal of it, as it should stay. (I think the snowy picture showing Levent should stay too, not only because it is an annual weather pattern during winter, but also because there are so many ignorant idiots who think that Istanbul is tropical and hot throughout the year) The other picture looks like smog, which alas is another common - unnatural -weather feature of Istanbul called pollution.


 * I did not edit in the Istanbul article and I haven't touched the picture. I browsed in the article and I just wanted to point the issue regarding fogs. That is all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by88.224.149.40 (talk) 00:43, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

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why you removing my comment? 88.64.182.125 (talk) 01:29, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

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"Easter" Saturday
Today is Holy Saturday for Eastern Christians, not Easter Saturday which is the Saturday following Easter Sunday. Eastern Christians celebrate Easter a week after Western Christians this year. Please remedy this situation if you could please.

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Thanks for this edit. That was bothering the shit out of me. --MZMcBride (talk) 05:00, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Bahrain GP
Can you judge consensus here? &mdash;Bzweebl&mdash; talk 02:50, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

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RE: Are you living in the past?
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Istanbul
Hallo Tariq someone is vandalising Istanbul since half an hour. Can you please protect the article? thanks, Alex2006 (talk) 15:54, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Of course, thanks for inviting me! And, of course, for protecting the page yesterday. But do you think that this guy who vandalised the article yesterday is the one that was blocked last week? The ip address is from Turkey... Alex2006 (talk) 05:34, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * If you're referring to the person who you were reverting about fourteen hours ago (that's not yesterday for me), well, I'm not sure. It doesn't seem like Namuslu's M.O. (the edits by the person you were reverting were outright vandalism), but based on the IP editors we saw just a couple hours ago (which were obviously Namuslu), maybe it was him. --  tariq abjotu 05:46, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Of course, I meant yesterday GMT+1 :-) It is a pity for this guy. Turkish wikipedians could do a lot of useful work in this field, since they have access and can read the sources in Turkish, but a lot of them simply don't understand it, and waste time writing about night clubs, shopping center and hamams... Maybe this happens because Turkey until not many years ago was a poor country, and now is booming, so they are proud to show their country's progress, but in doing so they forget that what is really important is their true cultural heritage. I noticed the same behavior by the Greeks in the 1990s. Alex2006 (talk) 06:28, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, mon cher... Those nouveau-riche Turks and their gaudy tastes, obnoxious behaviour... 88.251.111.120(talk) 19:56, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

WP:AN discussion of lifting Eric1985's unblock condition
Hello Tariqabjotu. Please see Administrators' noticeboard/Archive235. You are welcome to give your own opinion on whether Eric1985's unblock condition should be lifted. EdJohnston (talk) 14:58, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

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