User talk:Tatyree

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Flirtomatic
Hi. You can object to the deletion, but please don't delete the tag. Please follow its instructions. --Dweller 15:44, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Warning
Repeatedly removing the tag, despite being told not to, can be seen as vandalism. Please be careful, as repeated vandalism can lead to a block... and no-one wants that to happen. Your hang-on tag is in place. Now you need to rapidly improve the article. --Dweller 16:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Notability
Hi. Your assertions of notability make me believe that the article cannot be considered for speedy deletion, so I've removed the tag (and the "hang on", which is otherwise pointless!). Other editors may still believe that it's not notable, but will need to take it to WP:AFD, which is a much slower process, calling on consideration and argument to achieve consensus. Your best bet to establish the article as a fixture is to reference the article using verifiable sources. Read WP:V and some of the other articles linked from there and in the welcome message above. A properly sourced article would be very hard to remove. Though not impossible. Concentrate on giving sources relating to your "assertions of notability". --Dweller 16:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * With regard to notability and the threat of eventual deletion >=


 * It seems to me that you quickly need to provide two citations to prove notability on the following:


 * "often described as 'half dating agency, half social networking website'" - who describes it thus and where? Post a link if cited from online, or quote hard copy, hopefully from notable source itself.


 * "Flirtomatic are the first service to offer regular mobile operator portal integration." - this really is a claim to notability, if it is innovative in such a way. Post the source of this - prove it.


 * I personally hope you are able to do so. Refsworldlee(chew-fat) (eds) 21:26, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Flirtomatic
Hi. As the originator of the article Flirtomatic, you need to be aware of the above page. Best wishes Refsworldlee(chew-fat) (eds) 20:52, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

AfD
You're better off either improving the article or posting to Articles for deletion/Flirtomatic, (or both) rather thank posting to the article talk page at this stage. --Dweller 13:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Posting to talk page
The reason these posts are here is because they are not suitable for the AfD page! It is my only way of alerting the originator - I do not know him privately. He appeared unaware that there was a deletion tag on the page at all. I have merely done that, not coached him unethically, or tried to elicit a "vote" to 'Keep' or anything like that. I'm sure that he is aware that he needs to post there. Best wishes Refsworldlee(chew-fat) (eds) 18:31, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

AfD
Hi. You need to post your evidence at the Articles for deletion/Flirtomatic page. Refsworldlee(chew-fat) (eds) 18:59, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * No consensus on deletion. That's merely a stay of execution. More informed edits needed - I can't help any further. Cheers. Refsworldlee(chew-fat) (eds) 22:18, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Response to the last delete vote in AfD
I have posted here because the AfD page shows closed.

In repsonse to the final delete vote: "until sources provided. Unfortunately a claim to notability that isn't backed up with reliable sources isn't a claim at all on wikipedia. As long as they can provide information which meets the criteria in WP:WEB thats fine, but until its provided it shouldn't exist. Google hits and alexa traffic ranks are no longer sufficient to meet the requirements of notability..."

I never claimed notability on the basis of Google Hits or Alexa ranking. I claimed notability according to WP:WEB point 3: "The content is distributed via a medium which is both well known and independent of the creators, either through an online newspaper or magazine, an online publisher, or an online broadcaster." We meet this criteria both in print and online: News Of The World, February 11th, 2007, page 54;  News Of The World, February 18th, 2007, page 54; News Of The World, February 25th, page 59; http://newsoftheworld.co.uk/flirtomatic.shtml. I did not include these as references in the article because there was a dispute over their significance in light of WP:V+WP:NPOV+WP:OR+WP:COI. I must stress that this is an experimental partnership to understand the viability of social networking services affiliated with the paper. We are a private company and are in no way affiliated with or owned by News International.

Tatyree 10:56, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey, I wouldn't worry. The closing admin went for keep. How about hanging around here and contributing elsewhere? There must be millions of articles that you could contribute to. You're clearly an intelligent and articulate person and we need people like you. --Dweller 11:13, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Not a strong 'keep' in my opinion though - keep working on it! Good luck. Refsworldlee(chew-fat) (eds) 11:18, 26 February 2007 (UTC)