User talk:Tawker/archive6

Talk:Jeffrey Vernon Merkey Page Archive
I am archivng that page, its over 84K. Thanks. Waya sahoni 05:03, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Please just make a note archiving or something like that in the edit summary, without it we take it as blanking and revert. Thanks -- Tawker 05:05, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


 * You were faster than me. I was in process of doing that when you reverted.  I will be more concise in the future. Waya sahoni 05:07, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I took the liberty of copying the current topic forward to the empty Talk:Jeffrey_Vernon_Merkey from Archive 5 as it is relevant to the latest additions on the Jeffrey_Vernon_Merkey page itself. talks_to_birds 06:49, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Why delete?
Effection: Hellraiser does exist. But the IMDb havn´t a programm of this film! It´s a PRESENT film. The film is not completed, but he will be completed, this year! -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Julian Thome (talk • contribs)
 * See reply on your talk page

flattbush problem
I have re-edited it again...you are the man...Well, what they (current flattbush members) are attempting to do is to essentially silence everyone that disagrees with their politics. Now that they have been blocked, I presume that they will just move to some other locale. You can see why they need to lie? We quit because they basically stole the band from us and changed the image to Communists, when Ray and Eric are just normal musicians. So, I guess, in short Flattbush hasn't been about the music since 2002. Thanks again, Tawker! Stabinator 09:24, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Flattbush as of 12:37 am PST
Flattbush has again been vandalized after being blocked. Maybe it takes a few minutes. Stabinator 09:24, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

thx
ok, I hope they can keep it cool. Stabinator 09:24, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

vandalism
Hi, sorry for all that stuff. I was frustrated with PFHLai as he came off as condesending when he was questioning me about using the attribution tag. I was confused on how to tag this photo as a copyrighted image and didnt know about the image policies until later. My regards. S0berage 23:48, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot blanking
Is there a place where the behavior of the tawkerbot was decided upon? The fact that it blanks anon user talk pages is often very inconvenient, as it removes useful information such as shared ip templates. A lot of editors have spent a lot of time putting useful informative templates on these user talk pages, and we really need to consider whether or not its worth blanking/deleting them. --DDG 17:27, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Well as you can see in the example I linked, it may ignore templates, but it doesn't ignore the "subst"'d content, which many editors have been told to do repeatedly. Can you turn off the tawkerbot for now until we can establish what it should be doing with these kind of pages?  Is there a more permanent discussion for these features?  --DDG 18:55, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe on Wikipedia_talk:Bots? I'm not really sure where the best place for discussion is either, as unfortunately I am not able to participate in IRC chat that often.  In either case I fear that a lot of editors don't use the templates in question directly, but rather use the subst: template commands, as is the policy suggested at Template substitution.  I'm not sure what your bot can do to recognize these subst'd infoboxes. --DDG 19:08, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2 damage (Tawker's note: the bot didn't touch the page
While I appreciate the service of Tawkerbot removing vandalism, Tawkerbot also caused more than a little damage over at the wikipage today, with damage to the 1)Talk 2)Origin and 3) Drafting sections BruceHallman 22:32, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't see the bot having any edits on the article, I see a couple by myself which might be in error but I don't see any bot edits, could you provide a diff to the bots edit? -- Tawker 23:03, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
 * You're right, I did have an edit history version with godmodelight where it reverted to the vadalised version which I promptly fixed, I still don't see how my bot was involved in this. -- Tawker 23:07, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawker Bot incorrect (Tawker's note: not really, see message)
Hello- I noted that Tawkerbot flagged me as vandalizing a page Rambler (automobile). What is going on is that I did an incorrect move from Rambler (car) to Rambler (automobile). This was borught to my attention by an admin and I am (first time ever moving an article here) attempting to get the problem reverted so a proper move can be done. In total, the blanking (which I know is not the way to do it) lasted about three minutes and has been reverted. Stude62 00:18, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * See reply on your talk page, the bot really wasn't incorrect it was an error in procedure that triggered the bot, no worries, it happens. -- Tawker 00:28, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Sieve of Atkin
Can you read my question on the talk page and try to address the issue? --mets501 02:01, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I'm fine
I reverted that page like any other vandalism regardless of whether it was by a bot or not. (copyvio contents) Cheers! – WB 02:15, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey Tawker
I was looking through my contribs lately, and you seem to have reverted my vote? Can you explain this. I don't want to start any trouble or anything, so I'll just ask you here, and then you can re-post that vote once you've realized the mistake. Thanks. --Rob from NY 02:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It was the AaronS RfA, as I recall. --Rob from NY 02:39, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, heres what happened, you accidentally removed some questions (see this dif) - feel free to re-add your vote :) -- Tawker 02:41, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Anon
D'oh, I may have fed them. I just reported it to WP:AIV. -- Samir ∙  T   C  05:26, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Artbox
C'mon, this page is ridiculous. This band barely existed in real life except as a mouthpiece. They shouldn't even be included in Wikipedia.216.231.46.147 06:12, 9 March 2006 (UTC) I didn't blank it, I removed all the stuff that's either blatantly untrue, extreme POV or just pointless (they got in a fight outside a bar? This wouldn't belong in an encyclopedia article about the Beatles, let alone a nothing indie group. Is there evidence they actually ever played this bar?). I left the basic facts intact -- membership, releases. I don't know how to do a AfD or db. Sorry, new around here. I've contributed on a page or two where I have some knowledge. This is one of them.216.231.46.147 01:45, 10 March 2006 (UTC) OK, I'm gettin' the hang of it. Registered, AfD'd it. Sorry for stumbling around. Fnarf999 02:22, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

wow
Wow, you're my hero. Thanks for making and running the bot!!!! &rArr;   SWAT Jester     Ready    Aim    Fire!  14:48, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2
I'm very curious to know what algorithm you are using to perform those reversions, but probably it is best to keep it a secret so the vandals reading this page don't find out how to beat it :-) Anyway, I think the bot is a nice idea. I came by to say that I've semiprotected the bot's user page, especially since it will be reverting quite a bit of vandalism. Let me know what you think? See you around! --HappyCamper 15:04, 9 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Fabulous bot. Bravo! Maustrauser 08:40, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2's autowarnings
Hi, I just thought you'd like to know that I'm looking at a progressive autowarn system for Tawkerbot2 right now and hopefully it'll will be up and running soon -- Tawker 16:17, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know, that sounds like it will be a big improvement! Could you make it give progressive warnings and flag repeat offenders (within a certain timeframe, eg 10 vandalized edits in the last 24hrs) for an admin to look at? (maybe even post to WP:AIV) └ UkPaolo/talk┐ 16:22, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Gabriel Gervais page
Your bot just vandalized the page after I added a career table and accused me of vandalism. Since when is adding a career stats table to a soccer player's article vandalism? Kingjeff 20:36, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry. It looks like somethings wrong with the system for bots. It was 2 isolated inncidents that I haven't seen till the past week. Kingjeff 22:00, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

My RfA
Hey, how is it going? Thank you for supporting my Request for adminship! It passed with a final vote of 73/1/1, which means that I have been granted adminship! I look forward to using these tools to enhance and maintain this wonderful site. I will continue regular article/project contributions, but I will also allocate a sizable portion of my wikischedule toward administrative duties :) Thanks again, and if you have any questions/comments/tips, please let me know! &mdash; Deckiller 04:59, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2
Hi, I just learned of your wonderful tawkerbot2. Is it already active on the dutch wiki? Would it be appreciated if I would want to use it on the Dutch wiki? Does it require additional development before it can be used cross-wiki? Great work! Zanaq 12:14, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Just wanted to echo Zanaq's comments. Thank you for this bot. &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 13:47, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I'll add a me-three here - Nice one! :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 20:48, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

in the interest of keeping a discussion together I copied this answer from my user page. Zanaq 10:56, 11 March 2006 (UTC) Yes, it's cross wiki compatible, it just needs a little more tweaking (the warning system needs work and the reporting is half effective) and sure, I'll either run it or give you the code whatever works best -- Tawker 02:40, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
 * If you'll give me the code I can do some tweaking myself and report the results back to you. I wil validate my e-mail so you may e-mail me if you still wish the code to be a secret, which I hereby vow to uphold. Zanaq 10:56, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Response
Hi there - just trying to get back to you since the last message you left on my talk page. Sure, that sounds great! I guess I'll wait for you to respond in an e-mail and such then. See you around! --HappyCamper 12:20, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Beans in noses
The edit summary is vague to disguise what exactly the filters are, I'm not totally sure how BEANS applies but some people claim it does. We did put in the reasons before but then we had some requests via email to remove the summaries as it was probally going to spark a cat and mouse to try and outsmart the bot. -- Tawker 10:26, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Ohhh... I see. Should the bot be handling malicious vandalism anyway?  I thought its target was mostly anon tests, blankings and "X is gay" comments, etc.  Those types of vandals won't even know what a bot is, let alone why they should try to thwart it.  I think it would save us editors some time if the bot said things like "reverting total page blanking", so we don't have to look at the diff. — Omegatron 15:10, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot - blanking of talk pages
I'm not sure where to post this comment, so here it is :-) : I disagree with the blanking of old IP talk pages; besides other reasons, it does send the "new messages" banner to the users. We've already gotten several complaints about the "new messages" banner when a message is removed or substituted. Anyways, just my 2 cents; I don't think that the bot should continue doing this. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note? ) 17:14, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply - I'll comment there. Flcelloguy (A note? ) 17:30, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2 on Ethanol
The bot hasn't touched the page, I'm not sure where you are getting the history from. The bot will revert to the last version that doesn't trigger its filters, it should go to the "clean" version 99.9% of the time -- Tawker 09:42, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * The bot reverted Ethanol fuel at 08:30, 9 March 2006. I guess your filter is pretty conservative, and earlier vandalism was too subtle to trigger the filter. Or does your algorithm look for successive vandalisms?  In the end, bots are just helpers, not almighty, so it is better not to touch the article than fixing the sublte vandalisms, I suppose.  Lifetime 03:16, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2 vandalism warning?
Hello! I have been closing down AfD discussions and redirected Intoonfada to Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy. You can see the discussion at Articles_for_deletion/Log/2006_March_8. Why then did the bot accuse me of vandalism? Can you explain it to me, please? I am acting in the role of Admin, so I am suprised to receive a warning such as this. Regards,  (aeropagitica)   13:56, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

False positive by Tawkerbot2
Per your wish to be notified: Tawkerbot2 has just reverted my revert. See ya! Misza 13 T C 17:16, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2 on John Ratzenberger
No problem, I just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed some piece of vandalism I had inadvertantly reverted back to. Staxringold 18:23, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Analysis of data
I was just thinking that perhaps the edit counter results for your bot, Tawkerbot2, could possibly be used to extract data about when Wikipedia is vandalized the most. Human editors often sleep, and are not on for 24 hours, or at least most of them. However, with your bot chugging away all day, everyday, the graph below can be used to isolate times of heavy vandalism. What do you think? -- Jay  (Reply)  21:04, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for reverting vandalism in my userspace. CanadianCaesar The Republic Restored 06:45, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

St. Louis
Some of the sub-categories still need doing, (Category:Saint Louis University shouldn't change.) Rich  Farmbrough 07:28 12  March 2006 (UTC).

Effection: Hellraiser
User:Julian Thome is continuing to remove the AfD template from this page. Can you please report this to an admin? - adnghiem501 07:42, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
 * An IP user (User:84.173.35.98), possibly Julian Thome, has removed the AfD template. Report this user to the IRC. - adnghiem501 08:04, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

My Talk page
Someone used your bot to revert my own talk page (appears to be Werdna648). Is there any way to stop this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcyu (talk • contribs)
 * I reverted a blanking on your talk page, my bot wasn't involved -- Tawker 08:39, 12 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Then stop reverting my talk page. I don't want comments.  I want it left blank. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcyu (talk • contribs)
 * Removing warnings is considered vandalism, hence the revert -- Tawker 09:02, 12 March 2006 (UTC)


 * If you have an issue with my talk page, please post it on the admin board instead of reverting my talk page. Thanks. Policeman of the Control Freak Wikipedia Editors 09:06, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

GFDL and AfC
Hi Tawker. It's usually pretty easy to find the author of an AFC submission from the history. Just search for the section heading – or, it it's not there, the heading of the proceeding submission – and then look at the diff to make sure you've got the right one. It's annoying, but it's really really important. I added the IP to City Centre Mall, by the way. ×Meegs 09:26, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

My RfA
Thanks for supporting my RFA. I really appreciated the show of support and all the kind words from so many great Wikipedians. I hope I live up to them! -- Vary | Talk 17:26, 12 March 2006 (UTC)