User talk:Tawkerbot2/Oct06

Reverted a legitimate edit. :)
I reverted a false revert by AntiVandalBot on the John Cena page and Tawkerbot2 immediately reverted it back. link. Just an FYI. Methnor 08:48, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Im sorry. I edited this page illigaly. But i love tawker bot. IT saved my page a million times. mines teh one about chicken pox.

Suggestion
I think it'd be good if the bot also put a message on the user's talk page, like "your edit has been reverted..." and so on. Otherwise vandalisers might get missed and thus would get blocked slower. --Awiseman 20:40, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

AMA Coordinator/Questions
'Was archiving and even put "Archiving." as the edit note and I was reverted. Just fyi. :-) אמר Steve Caruso  ( desk / AMA )  20:08, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Category:Entertainment_lists
I removed 4 paragraphs of spam from Category:Entertainment_lists and got a vandalism warning. I'm a little miffed that the spam is protected by this bot. I've since removed the spam paragraphs one at a time. I'd appreciate some acknowledgement on my talk page that I'm not actually a vandal. JordeeBec 18:33, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Marvel's Justice Page Spoiler Warning
There is a BIG spoiler warning on the following page under the Civil War section. I tried to enter a warning but the bot saw it as vandalism. It really NEEDS to be to put on there, it RUINED a comic for me. Thank you!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_%28comics%29

OKRomeo 04:00, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

This bot reverted an edit I made to Aspen Airways.
I was trying to fill change it from a redirect to the Mesa Airlines page  and put in some history I had found about the airline..

now all my changes are gone and it's back to a redirect to Mesa.

Please help. Thanx Skysailor 15:33, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

12.218.119.147 18:53, 1 October 2006 (UTC)GCZ (Gary Seevers)
Hello, I a legitimate edit made to the "Exo Squad" (television series) article was removed by your bot. The edit was made to the "external Links" category wherein I placed a link to Exo Squad's MySpace profile at: "http://www.myspace.com/exo_squad".

I feel that this is a legitimate edit as the profile is currently the ONLY regularly maintained website concerning the "ExoSquad" television series and even contains actual full-length episodes for the user to view. In the tradition of providing Wikipedia users with the most comprehensive information on the subject possible, I feel it is IMPERATIVE that this link be included.

Thank you, GCZ (Gary Seevers)

Mathcore
i posted an edit which, while smaller in size, gave a more reasonable and logical explanation to what mathcore is. there is/was no libel in it, so if you have a good reason to leave it as is, let me know.

-PhrygianNinja

length is not a problem, if you want 100 pages of bullsh-- then you're welcome to provide people on the internet with misleading information. this message is in no way meant to be offensive.
 * Contributions to Wikipedia are required to be Verifiable and stated in a neutral, encyclopedic tone. Your edit failed to uphold these three principles. &mdash; Werdna talk criticism 12:58, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

i like how you state 2 things and said three. as a student of music, the ONLY (yes, ONLY, that means no other) time i hear "mathcore" is from "hxc"/hardcore/"scene" people. if you believe that wikipedia should have a user-created (not edited, created) after some study, i've found that a majority of people who have no clue what mathcore is, don't even know what a "scene" kid is. google even shows that "mathcore" is no-where near "progressive metal" in terms of establishment with a whopping 192,000 results compared to progressive metal's 19,900,000 results. Mathcore Vs. Progressive round 1if you would like further proof/arguement to why the page should not stay the same, you know how to contact me.

-Phrygian Ninja (phrygian: the musical church mode related to the iii(minor) chord of a key consisting of a Root, b2, b3, 4, 5, b6, b7)

Baise-moi (and censorship in general)
My edit of changing the term "f**k" to "fuck" was reverted by your bot. I suggest that you program it to ignore changes from censored words to uncensored. An Encyclopedia should not have grammatical censorship and I was simply correcting the page. Change the bot to recognize if the change is from a word containing asterisks to one not, that should solve the problem. 71.225.125.176 13:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)Stexe

Not vandalism...
I tried to edit some material from the Yahoo! Answers article that was biased and not at all constructive, and it was reverted. Here are the changes I put in, I do not see how this edited version is not more informative and mature-sounding when compared to the original:

'''Yahoo! Answers''' is a community-driven service that allows users to ask and answer questions posed by other users, in the style of answers.com and Google Answers. In order to ask a question or to answer one, one has to have a Yahoo! account. To encourage good answers, Yahoo! Answers occasionally features helpful participants on its Yahoo! 360° blog page.

==Point and Levels System== The site gives users the chance to gain points as a way to encourage participation. Two points are awarded for every answer given, one point for every vote on unresolved questions, ten points if the user's answer is chosen as best answer, and three points for hand-selecting a best answer to ones own question. Five points are deducted when a user asks a question, two points if they delete an answer, or ten points if they are reported. The points system is weighted to encourage users to answer questions that do not insult anyone. There are also levels (with point thresholds) which give more site access.

==Criticism==

===Level and Content of Questions=== Many questioners submit questions without searching in the archive. Even fewer questioners use a search engine to try to find information themselves. Users often react to obvious questions in copy-and-pasting text from websites including Wikipedia. This is so common the new term "WIKIPASTING" has been coined by users. In addition, the answers are appearing in Yahoo's own search query results. These often include questions that only received one inane answer.

The high rate of new questions (about 20 per minute) leads to a chatroom-like feeling. Most questions get answers only in the first two minutes, when they appear on the list of recent questions. This is not always true though. After reaching a particular level, a question can be "featured" or shown on the Yahoo! Answers home page.

There is little means to differentiate between hard and easy-to-answer questions, as the number of points awarded for a correct answer is fixed, unlike on sites such as Experts Exchange. In addition, unlike on EE, there is no concept of "point splitting," i.e. only a single answer may be chosen as "best." This implies a design mindset that neglects situations where two answers could address different facets of a problem or where one user's answer could build on the insight of another's.

===Abuse System=== Questions and answers can be reported by users as a breach of the guidelines. Yahoo! maintains that customer care send a message to let people know why they have been reported, or why they were apparently reported and if you complain a representative will think about telling you that they will look at your complaint.

Regards

Cody
 * One of the vandalbots reverted a definitely vandalistic edit back on 9/14 . The reverts on Yahoo! Answers yesterday and today were not performed by any of the bots, however, and have nothing to do with the bots, as far as I can see.  It's a good old fashioned, human driven edit-war going on there. I've struck through the above data dump, as it really has nothing to do with the bots. - TexasAndroid 14:11, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Preventing Antivandalism?
Page in question: Marc St. James (Ugly Betty character). The bot censored me for restoring a word after what may have been vandalism in the first place. An earlier user had removed the word "gay" from the description of the character, leaving a nonsensical gap. It was the only word removed. I restored that word and only that word. The word needs to be restored, or the sentence needs to be recast if it is inaccurate.

User Tablesaw, but without my password right now.
 * I've reverted Antivandalbot. -- Steel 14:30, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Suggestion
I think it'd be good if the bot also put a message on the user's talk page, like "your edit has been reverted..." and so on. Other vandalbots do that, and it's a good thing. Otherwise vandalisers might get missed and thus would get blocked slower. --Awiseman 18:13, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Umm, it does it on the first edit and the 4th edit. The other vandalbots are the exact same code :) - this was the original the rest are just clones. -- Tawker 18:59, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, I must have seen it the 2nd or 3rd times then. --Awiseman 16:05, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

MIT
Reverted page after extensive edits by me to improve organization and flow of article. No other editors or contributors have had a problem with my edits. Madcoverboy 20:11, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

"Soul Searching" Page
I recently edited the Soul Searching page. This page was about an album expected from socialite Nicole Richie. However, it has been found that "Soul Searching" is not a real album. The user who made this page had posted a tracklisting and an album cover that were all fake, so I removed them, and you reverted my edits.

Thanks 172.135.52.254 13:50, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Shikamaru Nara's "fix"

 * Note: This happened weeks ago. Why am I saying this right now? I don't know. I thought I'd just leave my two cents here.

I won't make this long, so I'll cut it short: I decided to add more information about Shikamaru Nara (specifically: saying that he figured out Hidan's ritual, and how it works). I wrote a long description on how he discovered Hidan's weakness, and why he needed certain things in his posession (i.e. his three-bladed scythe). When I got back home, I checked out the page, and found out that someone "vandalized" my work. Their work was much shorter than mine, and that really ticked me off because it lacked so much information about what happened. Since I didn't know that a bot did that, I decided to delete that whole part. Since it's a bot, it pasted everything that I deleted back on the page.

Sorry, man, but I just find it ironic that your bot is "anti-vandalism" when it vandalized my work. Not to mention that my work was much more detailed than what you put. But, hey, we got haters on this site. And from what one of my professors said about the people writing articles on this site are people who live in their mother's basement, that just makes sense.

I congradulate you for making a bot filled with irony and your need for superiority. I hope you still have that dream of not succeeding in life.

If there's anything wrong with this post, then blame time; it's 2:08 AM.

Narmo23 09:09, 9 October 2006 (UTC) << Signature.

Have fun replying to this message. I will most likely not visit this page anymore since I have no interest in arguing with some guy who thinks he's superior to everyone. Atleast I don't live in my mother's basement, unlike you.

Edit: Haha. I said that this post would be short, right? Guess not. Curse my high IQ.

Soul Searching - Nicole Richie
I recently edited the Soul Searching page. This page was about an album expected from socialite Nicole Richie. However, it has been found that "Soul Searching" is not a real album. The user who made this page had posted a tracklisting and an album cover that were all fake, so I removed them, and you reverted my edits. Thank you.

172.195.1.167 15:01, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Clone
I'm interested in running a clone a good number of hours per day to help out. Is this possible? --Daniel Olsen 06:54, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

FA Premier League - edit
Hi,

I just got a warning about vandalising this page on Wikipedia - when I clicked on the link from the front page, the only thing that came up was a garbage, 8 or 9 line article written by some idiot spouting off about 'clouts' and taking over the internet and other such nonsense. I deleted it, paving the way for it to be replaced with relevant material.

Thanks

Glenn Parrington (wiki reader)

glenn.parrington@gmail.com

Likely it was that vandal had once used your IP, nothing to worry about, sharedip notices like that happen all the time :) -- Tawker 05:22, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

How does it work?
Hi Tawker,

I'm very impressed by your bot, and one day I might ask you about some details, just out of curiosity. Right now however I'm interested only in the following: How does Tawkerbot monitor RC? Does it use Special:Recentchanges, or does it read some IRC channel, or something else? I was thinking that I might try to use the same mechanism to monitor for copyvios (plus Google API). Feel free to answer me via email, if you don't wish to publish this information. If you want me to provide you some evidence that I'm a legitimate user, just let me know. Thanks in advance --Leonard Vertighel 20:35, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Recent Edit of the Opposition to the Vietnam War page
I just edited the page Opposition to the Vietnam War, removing f***ing and replacing it with "fucking" in the "Common slogans and chants" thing. I can appreciate that a bot may have recognised this as vandalism but I feel that the censorship of words with asterisks is redundant and I am of the view that my change should stay. --203.214.116.74 02:45, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Hola
Obviously, you don't seem to realize that Kim Jong Il is obviously the leader of the North Koreans. You are a fool.

Love, Maxxam

(If you have any questions, speak to me on AIM. My SN is emperorcommodus8)


 * Umm..... no, you are a vandal. End of story -- Tawker 02:57, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Not Vandalism
I reverted the Brentwood Elementary page because someone put an incorrect re-direct on it. Here's the URL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brentwood_Elementary. Anyways, you gave me a warning saying I vandalized it; I did not. All I was doing was doing the right thing, because there was actually info on the right page. So yea, I will revert it back to the old page under my log in Jdubman.

sincerely 65.103.129.244
 * No worries, it's one of those oddball edits that 99% of the time it's vandalism and hence the bot reverts it but there is the odd exception. Thanks for reverting and the note, I hope your Wikipedia experience is going well -- Tawker 20:32, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Please provide a list of red flags in the FAQs
What does the bot look for? Will (Talk - contribs) 19:12, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Vandalism more or less... the exact list isn't published here at least so that vandals can't write a bot that can miss detection... email me and I'll fire em off -- Tawker 20:51, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

In that case, perhaps it would be better to only publish a list of things the vandals have given up on or are mainly used by human (rather than bot) vandals. Will (Talk - contribs) 01:46, 18 October 2006 (UTC)