User talk:Tbirdpa

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Thunderbirds article
Judging by your handle, can I assume you are the Thunderbirds PA officer/NCO? If not, I would suggest you change your name so as not to be affiliated directly with the Thunderbirds. If so, no worries.

To introduce myself, I am in the USAF and I fly on the BUFF. Big fan of the Thunderbirds PR and their successful safety record over the past few years with regard to pilot safety, crowd safety, and PR.

I'd like to help you with your introduction to Wikipedia. This isn't the military and things are not always clear-cut (though if you show me one AF reg that doesn't have at least some "wiggle room", I'd be impressed).

First, I recommend using your user page to define who you are. This helps us know more about you either personally or professionally and your aims on Wikipedia.

Second, I recommend reading WP:RS, WP:V, WP:IAR, WP:NPOV, WP:NOR, and WP:CONSENSUS. Realize these are all policies (read as "Technical Orders") that cannot be altered except by consensus. Wikipedia is not interested in the "truth" as much as they are interested in something that is "verifiable". Claims must have reliable sources. Ignore a rule if it makes the encyclopedia better (but make sure to note that in your edit summary).

Third, I recommend reading WP:COI because this will likely be the first trap you can fall fall into. If you are the Thunderbird's PA, then you have an conflict of interest, but as long as you are up front about this, and you don't use that position to abuse, berate, push a particular point of view, etc. then you should be fine.

Fourth, Wikipedia's Tongue and Quill is WP:MOS. It basically covers every formatting issue and will help you with format issues.

Lastly, I made some tweaks to your edits IAW the MOS. The biggest thing I could say that could really help your article would be to add sources for your information. Your historian's archives should have a lot of this information and it is likely FAR more accessible to you than me.

If you have any questions or need some help, feel free to contact me on my user talk page (just click on the "talk" link at the end of my signature) — BQZip01 —  talk 22:52, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * As BQZip01 mentioned above, Wikipedia has an integral "no original research" policy—that means that you need to substantiate your contributions with verifiable references. Seeing as you've declared a conflict of interest by identifying yourself as a member in the Thunderbirds' support staff, it is especially important that you avoid the appearance of bias and make a special effort to refer to neutral sources, rather than relying on your own recollections.


 * In this particular case, given your position as a public affairs representative, you should definitely avoid making unattributed statements that could be interpreted as a promotional message (which is by its nature non-neutral), even if you have a good-faith belief that these things are true. Instead, cite independent, reliable sources who don't have a straightforwardly plausible motive for exaggeration.


 * For example, in a recent contribution, you used the phrase "[a]t every venue, feedback from the embassies and foreign militaries was overwhelmingly positive", but you did not identify the source of that assertion. As a matter of principle, we need to ask: Who said this, and what authority do they have to make that claim? Similarly, when you list audience results, a reader might infer that you are implying that the Thunderbirds were successful—while that may be the case, it's not your place to personally assert that on Wikipedia. Instead, leave that to the source of those figures (if they came from an appropriate source), and indicate that source to the article's readers.


 * In essence, the tone of this (and any) article on Wikipedia needs to be encyclopedic, rather than promotional—more like what you'd read in a reference book, than in a brochure about the team's recent exploits. And especially in cases where conflicts of interest exist, reliable sources are required to ensure verifiability. Please locate and insert reliable, neutral sources for statements in the article that could be considered by an independent reader to be promotional or unbalanced. TheFeds 00:27, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

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