User talk:Tbrittreid/Archive/2007/August

Blue Network
The NBC article is wrong. The source noted in footnote 78 to the Blue Network article (which I largely wrote) cites to the 1943 Britannica Book of the Year, at page 579. That says: "Since then, however, the Blue Network, formerly operated jointly with the Red Network of NBC, became a separate corporate entity (January 9, 1942) and divorced its operations from those of NBC. The Red Network became known as NBC, with the Blue Network separately incorporated as Blue Network Co." This clearly establishes that in January, 1942, the name switched from NBC Blue (see the "Breakfast Club" ad from August, 1941 in the article), to simply "Blue Network." I have a number of photographs from the post-42 era which show microphones labeled "Blue" and "Blue Network" banners. The June, 1943 publication "The Blue Network Today," published before the purchase by Noble later that year, refers to it as both "BLUE" and "The Blue Network" (this document is also cited in the article -- I own a copy of the publication). Eric O. Costello 23:26, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

(2) None taken. I looked at the NBC site, and the point was well-taken. I've done a slight re-write to correct it. Incidentally, I've only ever found one show that has "This is the Blue Network of the National Broadcasting Company," the episode of "Inner Sanctum" that ran on December 7, 1941. RCA did on-air network identifiers only for brief periods of time in '37 and '41. I have a 1943 "Blue Network Breakfast Club" show (alas, not specifically dated) which uses "Blue Network" to identify it. Eric O. Costello 23:26, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Blue Network II
Generally speaking, *on-air*, RCA would use only "This is the National Broadcasting Company," and the G-E-C chimes, for both the Red and Blue Networks. For a brief period of time in the late 1930s, and again in 1941, RCA would use "This is the Red Network of the National Broadcasting Company" on-air. I have one "Chase and Sanborn Hour" show from September 5, 1937, and a batch of "Johnson's Wax Program" (i.e., Fibber McGee and Molly) broadcasts from the fall of 1941, that show this. The only time I've found an NBC Blue Network show that used "This is the Blue Network of the National Broadcasting Company" was, as I say above, the 12/7/41 episode of the "Inner Sanctum Mysteries." And NBC wasn't all that consistent, either. I have Jack Benny shows from the same week as the Fibber McGee shows that don't use it, and the 12/8/41 broadcast of "The NBC Breakfast Club" doesn't refer to the NBC Blue Network. Caveat: it doesn't seem like as many Blue Network shows have survived as Red Network shows, and very often, the former have been edited; this is the case with many "Information, Please!" shows from its run on NBC Blue, before it switched to NBC Red.

Of course, print advertisements would often use NBC Blue or Blue Network; for example, look at the ad for the Lux Radio Theatre from 1935 on Blue Network, or the even earlier (1929) Harry Lauder broadcast advertisement. I also have a 1941 promotional book (a very high-end product, hard-back with illustrations by a New Yorker artist) that focuses on the NBC Red Network (and doesn't even mention NBC Blue!). Tagline: "Any time is good time on NBC Red!" A promotional book for "Ted Malone's Mansions of Imagination," a 1940-1 show about famous buildings broadcast on Sunday afternoons, is identified as being broadcast on "the NBC Blue Network."

I can't opine on "The Green Hornet," not owning more than one or two broadcasts; most of the episodes I've listened to are on XM-164, and they usually blip the credits. Eric O. Costello 23:26, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Addendum: check this URL: http://members.aol.com/jeff560/am1.html. There's a bit on Blue Network history, including this para: "The terms "Red" and "Blue" were actually used on-air only rarely during the time in which NBC operated two chains -- for a brief period spanning the latter half of 1936 and the first half of 1937 [Slightly inaccurate but generally true - EOC], and again for several months in mid-1941 [slightly inaccurate, but generally true - EOC]. The two networks did use different sets of chimes during 1929-30 (and possibly earlier) with the Red being signified by a seven-note progression and the Blue by a five-note progression. The terms did turn up in the press, however -- even though it was more common in fan publications to refer to the Red as the NBC-WEAF network and the Blue as NBC-WJZ." [In my experience, the WEAF/WJZ references started to die out by the mid to late 30s - EOC] Eric O. Costello 23:46, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Broadcast vs Transmitted
Re The Five Doctors: you'll find either is allowable in British English, though I suspect "broadcast" is more common in a television context, these days. --Mark H Wilkinson (t, c) 20:23, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Green Hornet
The source for the Bob Hall run was John Dunning's ENCYCLOPEDIA. If you want to track that, I see that Dunning's website has both an email address and a phone number: http://www.oldalgonquin.com/contact.php Pepso2 23:27, 11 August 2007 (UTC)