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You edited a previous comment made by another editor. Please fix it. QuackGuru ( talk ) 06:48, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ Technophant (talk) 07:23, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

July 2014
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Acupuncture. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. - 2/0 (cont.) 13:31, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
 * @2/0: "Repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement"? Evidence? I put it up once, then it was removed for being poorly sourced, then I rewrote it with an additional source and after that edit was removed by a different editor I haven't reintroduced it. That's not edit warring, that good editing. - Technophant (talk) 13:45, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

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Your edit summary was incorporate information from the article "myofacial meridians" into this section. But you also deleted "Similarly, no research has established any consistent anatomical structure or function for either acupuncture points or meridians." Did you accidentally delete the sentence? QuackGuru ( talk ) 19:18, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Length of Lead in Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
I have left you a message on the ISIS Talk page about this. I didn't want to remove the banner you put up - you will see why in my note. --P123ct1 (talk) 15:55, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Wikifying BBC News in ISIL
I have just unwikified all the "BBC News" mentions in the footnotes! I didn't see your summary edit until afterwards just now. I did think there were more wikified ones than I remembered seeing, and now I know why! I thought the first wiki would be enough, but do you feel strongly about this? If so, I can wikify them again. Let me know. --P123ct1 (talk) 21:17, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * @P123ct1, I think it should remain mostly due of the use of inline citations. I know it seems simple, but I also to try presume that the audience may be a gradeschooler how hasn't heard of BBC News and wants to know more. Is there anything in the manual of style about overusing wikilinks in citations? - Technophant (talk) 05:45, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You have a point. I'd be happy to put the wiki links back in.  Not sure about MOS on this - I think it's meant to be only the first time the name appears - but this would be an exception, I think.  Nice to know someone thinks about the readers, which is what I try to do as well.  --P123ct1 (talk) 11:02, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * @P123ct1 Readers are n't reading the references one at a time, not top to bottom. I do think this is a sensible exception. Keep up the good work! - Technophant (talk) 11:06, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Re the list on the ISIS Talk page, not quite sure what you mean, but it looks as if I somehow inserted my comment before the end of yours preceding it, though wasn't aware of doing this.  Sorry!  --P123ct1 (talk) 11:14, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * @P123ct1 The list saw after you started a new section were caused by the use of citation templates in the lead rewrite section causing the references to be put at the bottom of the page. They weren't added by an unsigned user. I added reflist to the bottom of that section that fixed the problem. Also, I'm not familiar with the updated mechanics of chat. Do I need to put in the @ template to get your attention while talking on my talk page?- Technophant (talk) 11:44, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Understood. I know it's a pain, but I think you'd better put in the template if replying on your Talk page, otherwise I won't be alerted that I have a message, but if you put a message on my Talk page, I will automatically get alerted. Think this is how it works.  (I've just reformatted the "BBC News".)  --P123ct1 (talk) 11:56, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Notification
QuackGuru ( talk ) 06:01, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Primary sources and poor sources
You tried a similar edit before that was reverted for obvious reason. I think you should revert your edit. Adding poor sources and primary sources does not improve the article. See Talk:Acupuncture. QuackGuru ( talk ) 06:18, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

According to this comment you are aware you added primary sources. I think we should use better sources. QuackGuru ( talk ) 06:40, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * @ QuackGuru Please don't contact me on my talk page again. You are being argumentative and unproductive. Anything you need to say about sources can be said elsewhere. - Technophant (talk) 06:44, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

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July 2014
− You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Acupuncture. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

− Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

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 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.

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 * 1) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

− If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. - 2/0 (cont.) 13:31, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

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 * @2/0: "Repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement"? Evidence? I put it up once, then it was removed for being poorly sourced, then I rewrote it with an additional source and after that edit was removed by a different editor I haven't reintroduced it. That's not edit warring, that good editing. - Technophant (talk) 13:45, 18 July 2014 (UTC)== Friendly notice ==

Please note. You removed the tags without fixing the problems. I went ahead and deleted the primary/poor sources. QuackGuru ( talk ) 19:20, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * User:QuackGuru - I reverted your edits but restored your MEDREF tag. The proper way to handle that would be to restore the tags with a detailed explanation on the article talk page explaining why you think they should be there. Then it is discussed and action is taken if needed. Your slash and burn (shotgun) approach of removing all primary sources with no easy way of reverting it has gained you topic bans and blocks in the past. This is your first and only warning. - Technophant (talk) 23:12, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I already discussed this on the talk page. The bogus warning was inappropriate. Please don't restore primary sources for controversial claims. QuackGuru  ( talk ) 03:27, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * More bogus warnings are not helpful. QuackGuru  ( talk ) 04:24, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

ANI
There is a proposal of a topic ban of yourself here unless you can provide decent justification for your edits. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 06:46, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

July 2014
Your recent editing history at Acupuncture shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you don't violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. ''A warning was previously posted here about the same article. Removal of warnings is not appropriate.'' MrBill3 (talk) 07:51, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion
center (manual bot account), and User:Stillwaterisng (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=User%3AStillwaterisng logs] · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchUser=User%3AStillwaterisng edit filter log] · block user · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:User%3AStillwaterisng block log]) (created by mistake, 3 contribs). This is a topic ban, right? At least that what I keep getting told. This block is clearly misguided and I know Kww read this. This block is farce comprised of simple misunderstanding. - Technophant (talk) 07:05, 25 July 2014 (UTC) | decline = As mentioned in the block notice, your edits on the Fringe Theories talk page easily fall under "broadly construed." OhNo itsJamie  Talk 19:53, 25 July 2014 (UTC)}}


 * I am inclined to grant this unblock request. I'd like to hear from first though.  Tiptoety  talk 05:13, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd like to see the discussion at User talk:Technophant complete first. I'm concerned that Technophant will believe that he only has to follow his suggested new wording.&mdash;Kww(talk) 05:29, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I submitted a version that is acceptable to me. Adj is indef. away on family emergency. His last edit was on my page. If he were available then this issue would have been resolved by now. Even though I think Adj made a hasty decision I appreciate how he has gone out of his way to try to work with me and seems to want to make his work out right. I respect him for this and from what I've read of he has said about this case I think him and I are going to get along just fine so I don't see how you can justifiy keeping me locked up any longer. I've been civil and willing to work with everybody who's came here. - Technophant (talk) 06:34, 26 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Having followed this a little, I think the whole thing has mainly been a result of confusion and frustration. Technophant's unblock request looks good to me and I can't really see what more he can be expected to say. I would certainly support an unblock now. — Alan / Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:17, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Kww for getting the unblock request. The wording was good by me as well. Mentioning BANEX is fine, but unnecessary...it would have applied anyway...but PLEASE don't try to edit the pages under the exceptions listed there! It will only cause trouble, as definitions of vandalism vary from user to user. It would be much much better to just unwatchlist everything, especially since there seem to be a number of people who would like to see you blocked, and who will probably watch for an excuse to report a violation. ~Adjwilley (talk) 14:44, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

File:Mapping Iraq ~ June 15th 2014.png
Hi, thank for your map. Can you please upload a more clear and update map. Unfortunately, it is difficult to read the names of the cities in the current map.-- Seyyed(t-c) 04:02, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * It's available in a 2000px format by clicking on the largest format [here https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f2/Mapping_Iraq_~_June_15th_2014.png]. After it loads you may need to click on it to enlarge it. The map maker has promised to update it every to weeks, so if he does it will be at the end of the month. - Technophant (talk) 09:44, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you.-- Seyyed(t-c) 10:40, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Can I put in a plea? A reader with no knowledge of the area can't tell where the country boundaries are, which is Syria and which is Iraq. Given that land control is such an issue in this conflict, wouldn't it be a good idea to delineate them?  --P123ct1 (talk) 15:36, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It's not my map. Find the author on twitter and ask. - Technophant (talk) 17:23, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I didn't think it was your map; I was just hoping you could perhaps pass the message on. :( I have mentioned this on the ISIS Talk page before but there was no response.  I wouldn't know where to begin to find out who created this map and unfortunately don't know how to use Twitter!  --P123ct1 (talk) 11:11, 25 July 2014 (UTC)