User talk:Techraj

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Carnatic music articles
It is nice to see lot of contribution to Carnatic music articles. I hope we can fill in the big gaps in Wikipedia related to Indian music as a whole.

I have a few comments and/or suggestions, related to some of your edits.
 * 1) Words ending in "a" need not be changed to ā. The default pronounciation is the elongated a, as in Asia, Canada, Alaska, camera, data, flora, fauna, etc. Hence Rasikapriya can stay instead of Rasikapriyā.
 * 2) Related to that, I noticed that links got disconnected when you made such changes too. For example, we have Rasikapriya but not Rasikapriyā article and we have Graha bedham and not Graha bédham. I request you to preview your changes before saving the page, in order to avoid these de-link actions.
 * 3) Please take time to identify links and link them, especially when using Diacritical marks. There exists Alapana but no ālapanā - so we can do the wiki as " ālapanās " to get ālapanās.
 * 4) Adding links for smaller terms like nishadham, shadjam may not be worth it - may be best to link to swara page, (for which there is likely to be a link in Structure and Lakshana anyway).
 * 5) Also, Kalyana vasantham is not the normal spelling (in the highly used convention here) - it is Kalyana vasantam. T for tha sound, as in Enakku ta (give me). ṭ is used for Naṭabhairavi. Please note that individual editors have used different conventions and hence the varying spellings in lot of articles.

With respect to Kharaharapriya edits, I have couple of queries.
 * 1) You mentioned This is one of the few rāgams that allows for a composition to start and end on the nishādam; usually shadjam and panchamam are the swaras chosen for this purpose. I do not believe that any ragam allows or does not allow. Composers decide based on what they are inspired on. Hence in other ragams also there are some songs that start with Ni. Also, there are songs that start with Ga, Ma, Pa and Dha too. Especially, some composers have chosen to start some of the compositions in the same akshara as pallavi. Can that line be removed from the article, as I feel it incorrect and misleading?
 * 2) Another quote Kharaharapriya songs are usually meant to be sung medium or medium-fast, . . . I do not believe so. Many of Kharaharapriya songs are sung at slow tempo to bring out the karuna rasa. Would you agree?
 * 3) Wikifying names before creating the articles - in my opinion having lot of red links is not looking good. We can change names to links later, after articles are created. The names of many ragams in this page are in red link (no article has yet been created for them). That is the reason on many ragam pages I prefer to leave names in italics without links, until we later add the other ragam articles. Having more than 400 ragams means it is going to take time and hence we can reduce red links in articles. Would you agree?

These are a few of my view points related to improving Indian music content at Wikipedia. VasuVR ( talk,  contribs ) 08:21, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your suggestions, comments, and bringing some of the unnoticed errors up.
 * I agree that the ā sound need not be used in all situations. I will correct the Janya ragas page suitably.
 * Good points on adding alternate pronunciation, fewer links to the "swara" pages. I will follow these henceforth.
 * Spelling conventions really need to be laid out better, and I agree there. Any suggestions on whether we can use the ITRANS or the IAST systems to standardize English representations of Indian languages? I believe that IAST, although more accurate is rather more cumbersome to edit and maintain, and may also be difficult to read, for the uninitiated.
 * I read of the trait of Kharaharapriya to start/end on the nishadam on an article on Carnatica 1, whose author explains, "Kharaharapriya is a tristhAyI rAgam. Compositions in kharaharapriya usually begin in  sa, ri, pa ,ni." If you believe that this source is inaccurate, by all means, let us correct it.
 * Indeed, Chakkani Rajamargamu seems to start on a slow or slow-medium note. It would be valid to include this too. I agree.
 * Good point about Wikifying names. The issue I have faced is that when creating article stubs, robots usually mark articles for deletion when not fully formed. Can you suggest a solution, please?


 * I want to let you know that I really appreciate your work on contributing to Carnatic music (in particular) on Wikipedia. I hope to learn more and contribute more to these articles on Indian music.


 * tech 14:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Nice to get a very quick reply. I am glad to get some more people collaborating on the Indian Music project.


 * For point 3 above, I have used IAST where required, if you look into the appropriate pages. In fact, even for Arohana and Avarohana on every ragam page I have used it. The way I get around cumbersome is to have a small file that has all the letters and strings in a text file that I just copy and paste from. And, since I contribute a small bit to Tamil Wikipedia also, such quick ref type prepared text helps me zip through quickly. If someone has better ideas great.


 * TristhAyI, to my knowledge means that the ragam sounds good in all 3 sthAyIs - i.e., mandra sthAyI, madhyama sthAyI and tara sthAyI (lower, middle and higher octaves). Regarding the point on Nishadham - it can be reworded if the information can be confirmed from another source as well. I will keep looking too. Basically I am objecting to ragam allows - it is not the ragam allowing, in my opinion. If we do not find another source that corraborates, we can drop it.


 * Another point about Wikipedia is weasel words (see WP:WEASEL). For example, the word Usually does not give a good feel for the % of compositions. Hence, we can drop them and reword accordingly, even if the source has such statements.


 * When creating articles, work in the sandbox. I also faced the same situation. You can see User:VasuVR/Carnatic music terminology that admin created by moving the Carnatic music terminology when I had just 2 terms and a lot of TODO mentioned. Look into the history of edits and you will see what they do. That also gives a clue - create the articles like, for example, User:Techraj/Sindu Bhairavi - no one will delete it. When it is decently formed, then copy it to Sindu Bhairavi.


 * Hope these help and let us continue to keep rolling. VasuVR  ( talk,  contribs ) 17:26, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Gamaka
Hi, Please note that Gamakam/Gamak are different from what Gamaka article talks about. Disambiguation is the way. Do not merge Gamakam and Gamaka. Gamakam is a musical term while Gamaka is a genre of music in Karnataka.

~rAGU (talk) 21:06, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

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