User talk:Tednor

Hey man, thanks for the additional info on N'Dea. She doesn't get enough love. ;-) Souldier77 03:36, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

It is an honor to be among the first to expand her inclusion, as it is a joy to hear her sing!

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Breakdown section
Please look at the edit history. I only added a tag suggesting that it be merged; User:John Reaves actually did the redirect. If you disagree, you can always revert the redirect and this should be discussed on the talk page.. that's why I put the proposed merge tag there, so if there was a reason to NOT merge this article it could be discussed. Perel 08:29, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

My Bad, and thank you for the instructions as well as your intitial restraint.--Tednor 08:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

The discussion about whether or not to keep this article is now at Articles for deletion/Breakdown section - I've copied your comments on the talk page over there. Right now, the best thing you could do to keep this as a separate article is to add a lot of that info, especially on how breakdown sections are fundamentally different from breaks and how they enabled hip-hop in the the analog era, to the article. A few more paragraphs on that would make it more separate. The other option, and what consensus seems to be going toward, is that you could add a couple paragraphs on breakdown sections and how they differ from breaks to the breaks article and then that section could be broken out if/when it got long enough to warrant its own article. I'm out of my depth on this topic, I'm afraid, or I'd flesh it out myself. Perel 20:29, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

What's wrong with N'Dea? Absolutely nothin'.
Hey man... (I know nothing about you, but I assume, you're a male) I checked out the N'Dea page and all you did was re-write the links as "Supplemental Information". You had all the information there, so there was nothing to put back. ;-) Souldier77 02:39, 1 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey Ted... you know, I deleted the Chaka Khan reference because the first thing I think about is her voice, and N'Dea's voice has its own thing goin' on. Who else really sounds like her? But when you mention Rufus and Average White Band? I thought that describes the vibe of The Heavies excellently. Does that satisfy the link? Or should we try to put it another way? By the way, there's way more cleanup to be done. I don't know what to do about the discography. I want to include albums and singles and stuff, but God only knows how to properly organize it without it being lengthy and bulky. Got any ideas? — Souldier77 19:21, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Hola... hey, I added that Remix Magazine citation to N'Dea Davenport for you. By the way... Citing sources can give you the step-by-step on how to cite references and make footnotes and stuff. And for the individual things like  , you can check out Citation templates. Next thing you know, your days of claiming to be "sloppy" and a "newbie" will be ovah! Peace. - Souldier77 07:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Preview
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(He's saying that I'm sloppy and he is quite correct. We shall work on this matter:)--Tednor 16:51, 1 December 2006 (UTC) OOps! He may be She and there I go again...--Tednor 16:53, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Salsoul
Hey - I took a stab at cleanup of the Salsoul article. Looks like there's good info there. - AKeen 05:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * No problem. I learned a lot about the label, too! - AKeen 06:54, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Moloko — Statues
Hey, I checked out the Statues article. You know my trademark. I "fixed" the footnotes. But that has nothing to do with you. If I have to nitpick about anything, it's that you have a big section on "Over and Over", so it seems out of place to mention "Take My Hand" in there, unless it has some specific relation to "Over and Over". The bottom line is, though, I don't know anything about Moloko, so I can't offer criticism too deep. You might wanna look at Fleetwood Mac though and see how they tackled writing about the multiple breakups that were going on when their albums were at the height of popularity. Talk about drama. lol — Souldier77 20:15, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Section headings
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Steve "Silk" Hurley
I agree that Steve "Silk" Hurley is a better title, but if you look at "what links here" for the moved page, you'll notice that the page move has now created a number of double redirects (only single redirects work automatically). You'll also notice that Steve 'Silk' Hurley (single quotes) is a redirect.

Can you please fix these? Thank you. Fourohfour 22:36, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Chainsaws
My advice to you regarding having your efforts changed or removed is to talk about them more. Talk about controversial changes on talk pages before making them can prevent a lot of reverts. For noncontroversial changes you must always be willing to defend them on talk pages. Lastly, if your efforts resemble a paintbrush rather than a firehose, I imagine you'll get a lot less of those efforts chainsawed. You may wish to look through the edit history of the article on breaks and see how much effort I have put in, including adding cited definitions and clarifications of the concepts break and breakdown. It is frustrating to find those ignored with no evidence to the contrary presented. Hyacinth 04:46, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Dusty, Roisin, et al
Hi Tednor! Funny you mentioned Roisin Murphy in your comments to me. I JUST discovered both her solo album and Moloko in the last few months, and they're the best records I have found all year!

As for deleting your additions to the Dusty page, I hope you don't take it personally. Some of those comments did veer off into opinion, and believe me, I love her too. I would have written the same thing a year back or so. I have grown, as I become a more experienced Wikipedia editor, to understand that being able to have supporting citations, etc. are really important. I think a section on her legacy is a GREAT idea....we just need to find more comments from journalists, fellow musicians, etc, so the comments are not just "Some people think...." or "Many people think...." I have "Dancing With Demons" and the "Dusty" original bios, so I'm going to try and look through those for more supporting citations. And hopefully, the tiresome content war (over external links) happening on the page will end. Thanks NickBurns 14:47, 31 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Duh - just reread your comments and saw you're in Madison. Wow! NickBurns 14:57, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Moloko and "Statues"
Tednor, I looked at this article....I know you put an AWFUL lot of work into it.

A lot of this...might be considered opinion, original research, etc. But rather than go after my first instinct (ie, take all the unsupported stuff out) I wanted to reach out to you for help. I know you said, for example, that the Moloko fan forums had opinions on this record. Can you find me some examples of that? Linking to some comments or threads in the forums...would support the statement about divided fan response, and it would make sense to keep in the article.

I want to be clear I'm not "after" you or trying to undo your work....but edits to Wikipedia do need to be verifiable. I hope you understand why I'm asking! Let me know. Thanks! NickBurns 17:47, 4 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't want you to think you make a mess, because you care, and that's great! If you went back and looked at my talk page archives I made my share of mistakes too. What I know I learned over time. I think the important thing to remember is that articles can't always be all-encompassing. They should be informative but also concise....As for the "Sing It Back" section in "Things to Make and Do"....I agree that the information should be there....It should probably NOT be in the "Things" article to the degree it is, BECAUSE it has its own article. The fact that it does have its own article makes the difference. I would suggest the same for "Over and Over". Have a one or two sentence statement in the "Statues" article, then go into greater detail in an article for "Over and Over", etc. D'ya see how things link together? It's all good. : - ) NickBurns 19:10, 4 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey, I REALLY like how the Statues article looks! I made a minor tweak to the sub-heading, but left your rewrite alone for the most part! This looks great (and all that info is now in the Sing It Back article, which also looks great!). Thanks! NickBurns 21:17, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for adding sample information to the Art Of Noise article.
Hi there,

I've been trying to "collect", if you will, all of the samples that Art Of Noise has used through out their tenure and I wanted to thank you for your edit on December 2, 2006 that mentioned the use of the sample from Elvis Presley "Can't Help Falling In Love". The sample, in general, is one of my favorite samples that Art Of Noise used and I was very pleased and happy to finally find the source of that sample. I have been looking for this information for a couple of years now. I thank you greatly and I appreciate your contribution to the "Art Of Noise" article. It has really made my day. :-D

-- Mr. Sinistar 00:44, 12 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey Tednor,

This message is a response to the message that you sent to me on my talk page, about the "Art Of Noise" samples. I just wanted to make sure you get my message by posting it on you talk page. :-)

Here's the message I posted.


 * Yeah, I bought J.J.'s sample CD. Unfortunately, a lot of the samples that I love from the early AoN years (especially at ZTT) are missing from the CD.  There's no "Leave It" baritone "dum", no "ahh" or "ow" sounds from Beat Box (still trying to figure out what exactly are those sounds) and no long drawn-out "I" that sounds like "Can't Help Falling In Love" on that CD.  However there are a lot of samples from "In Visible Silence" especially samples from tracks like Peter Gunn, Backbeat, Eye of the Needle.

Unfortunately, I forgot to ask JJ what exactly is that long "I" sample. I did ask him what sounds were being played around 1:47 through 2:15 in the original Beat Box (the "AHH!" and "OW!" sounds) and he thought I was referring to the "yenom" or "backwards 'money'" sample, which I already knew about. :-( Pardon me for asking, but do you know what those "AHH", "OW" samples are?

P.S. Yeah, I bet Yello's Samples are REALLY HARD to nail down! LOL

P.S.S. I'll post this message on your User Talk page just in case you didn't receive a message that I responded. Thanks in adavnce! -- Mr. Sinistar 06:01, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Bye-Mr. Sinistar 16:25, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

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New Roisin
Hi Tednor, this is your fellow Roisin fan in Madison. Did you get "Overpowered"? Is there a store in the area that carries it? Just wondering - I know it's an import only and I haven't tracked it down anywhere here. NickBurns 15:43, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Keith Breeden
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