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Beauty and the Beast
Hi Tenebrae, thanks for the "thanks" re: my reversion of plot bloat at Beauty and the Beast (1991 film). It probably wouldn't hurt if I could con you into leaving a quick, perfunctory note on the talk page. Based on some of their other edits, I see a pattern of adding bloated plots, so establishing some opinions early might help us down the road. A good day to you! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:13, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Daredevil
Thanks for your recent trimming of the 2010s section in Daredevil (comics). I've long felt that section was a little too bloated, but I haven't been keeping up with the series for the past decade so I wasn't sure which elements are important and which could be trimmed. I appreciate it.--NukeofEarl (talk) 16:39, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I meant to reply to your post to my talk page a lot earlier, but I got distracted. Sorry about that. But yeah, I'll add Superhero to my watch list and have a good look over it.--NukeofEarl (talk) 18:01, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Gooseberry Sprig
Thanks, but—why? It was already cited. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 04:50, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Like your style
…where, for style, read editing standards. Cheers. 71.239.87.100 (talk) 15:36, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Who or What is Ro?
Just curious about this source. It is quoted quite often on Jack Kirby's page (Jack Kirby), but it doesn't link to anywhere. Is it a published magazine? Palsunstar (talk) 07:45, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

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Happy Bottom Riding Club
Thanks for taking the time on the article about one of America's famous aviatrix. She is kind of a hero of mine for her flying ability and who she knew in the early days of Edwards Air Force Base. I have been to the base museum several times and she was commonly referred to as Pancho and she loved that name. I noticed you changed some of the names to Barnes which may seem normally appropriate but I believe Pancho is more appropriate as that is what all the early test pilots like Chuck Yeager called her as she preferred that. Could you please change some of those back as I believe it is more appropriate here. It was also her flying name as well. Vive la Pancho! 172.56.15.36 (talk) 14:07, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Untitled
I just made edits and added two relevant citations, which you removed. Please explain why they were removed? Thank you. Jpop73 8:31, 26 February 2015‎

Earth-199999
Can I get your professional opinion of an edit that I just made at Marvel Cinematic Universe, I'm not sure that I like it. There's also a discussion about it at Talk:Marvel Cinematic Universe.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 13:09, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

TV RfC
You've misinterpreted the closer's comments. As I explained at WT:TV, you asked two questions: The closer has ignored the first question and concentrated on the second. This is reinforced by his statement on his talk page: If someone wants to start an RfC to discuss whether inline citation is required in the infobox or not, always assuming that the source of the figure is established from reliable independent sources, then that is a different question (emphasis added) That is why I asked the question on his talk page, but he didn't seem to get what I was asking. For the re3cord, you'll note that his edit summary for the close said Sadly, this cannot end in anything that will be enforceable. There's certainly nothing in what he has said to justify this edit, which is redundant at best, as sources are supposed to be third party. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 03:14, 21 March 2015 (UTC) JzG has now confirmed that the question of inline citations needs to be addressed separately, rather than being bundled with the question of whether stopwatches can be used in lieu of citations. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 13:17, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Do we need to cite everything
 * 2) Can we use a stopwatch to time episodes

Please note that the closer has now clarified everything at WT:TV, specifically stating, amongst other things, The RfC close has nothing to say about whether running times from reliable independent sources have to be cited inline in infoboxes Please do not be tempted to read anything into the procedural close of the RfC beyond the simple fact that no RfC can decide to allow original research of this kind. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 10:59, 22 March 2015 (UTC)


 * This is a smokescreen. No one but you is talking about inline citing. The only thing the admin closer said is "third-party sourcing is required". That's not "reading anything into it." Those are the admin's exact words. Trying to misdirect and obfuscate by claiming that this is about inline citation when it is not is being deliberately misleading. You're better than that. --Tenebrae (talk) 15:05, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Smokescreen? really? You started a discussion at Template talk:Infobox television and started talking about cithing runtimes. You've been persistently arguing that runtimes should be cited in that discussion because that's what WP:FILM does. The RfC question starts with Do TV-show running times in the TV infobox require a citation to verify them and you've persistently been arguing that we should cite runtimes. You even insisted on one for Melissa & Joey, even though it took me less than 30 seconds to find a source that verified it, and you've added content to the infobox documentation saying that sources are required specifically for that parameter. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 15:30, 22 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I have not said anything about inline citations since the RfC ended &mdash; because I accept the RfC's decision. (I even reverted myself almost immediately when I inadvertently made a mention of citations in the template.) So to say I am advocating for anything except "third-party sourcing required", as the admin himself put it, is a smokescreen. I have not said anything about inline citations since the RfC ended.--Tenebrae (talk) 15:33, 22 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Given your history in the discussion it was not clear that you are no longer pushing for inline citations, especially when you insisted on one for Melissa & Joey and added the text to the infobox instructions. I can't find anywhere that JzG said anything was a smokescreen, although you've now used the word 3 times. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 15:44, 22 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I think, ironically, you were reading things into my comments that weren't there. I'm not sure why it wasn't clear I was not pushing for inline citations, since I used that wording repeatedly (15:05 22 March: "No one but you is talking about inline citing."), but that's OK. In the interest of showing good faith and "putting my money where my mouth is", as the saying goes, please take a look at a comment I just posted at Template talk:Infobox television/doc where I say, in no uncertain terms, what you are saying: That no inline citation is necessarily required. If you think we should even add that to the embedded note — well, yes, of course. I really do think we're ultimately on the same page.--Tenebrae (talk) 15:51, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

FYI
Just letting you that I mentioned your name in the phabricator. Hope you don't mind.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 13:00, 24 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks and the respect is mutual.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 17:19, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Favorite book on writing
Hello, Tenebrae. Thanks for the "thanks" on "which/that/which" over on "Brian Williams," and for the note. It's always fun to get a note on Wikipedia. From what you said, and from your mention of Strunk & White, it seemed you and I might care about the same sorts of things, and so I commend to you my favorite book on writing: The Practical Stylist, by Sheridan Baker. Here's a link from Amazon to my favorite edition, the one from 1962. http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Stylist-sheridan-baker/dp/B000L1TI6K/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1427429812&sr=8-6&keywords=the+practical+stylist

I don't have a copy at hand right now, but I think I remember Uncle Sheridan on "which v. that" as follows: Test every "which" to see if it should be "that"; and then test every "that" to see if it should be gone! That's where I get into trouble: once I've dumped my "thats," subsequent editors are forever putting them back in. For example, they'd prefer I write to you about "the book that I like best on writing," rather than "the book I like best . . ."

I love talking about this stuff! Best -- Bruiserid (talk) 04:43, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank You
I also want to thank you, in return, as I see you are a great contributor to the site. Cheers. JosephSpiral (talk) 21:33, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

G8
Hi Tenebrae, though I see the logic, your tagging of Oklahoma Film Critics Circle Awards 20XX articles with G8 unfortunately wasn't a valid use of the tag; it's for more clear-cut dependencies rather than inherited lack of notability. I do think it might be a good idea to start an AfD for probably the entirety of Category:Oklahoma Film Critics Circle Awards though. Sam Walton (talk) 19:04, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

RfC
Hello stranger, long time no talk. Hope all is well. Figured you might be interested in commenting on this, I want to reach a consensus on this once and for all lol. Discussion is here about the removal of non notable awards on film articles. Play nice ;) LADY LOTUS • TALK 12:04, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Avengers: Age of Ultron
Hi Tenebrae! I was just wondering if you were fortunate enough to view a press screener yet for the film? I'm planning to take it off my watchlist soon to avoid spoilers, and knowing your press connection, was hoping you might keep a watch over it as you've done with other MCU films in the past if you had. Thanks!!! - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:57, 11 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Also if you want to take the first stab at the plot after the first wide release.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 17:43, 11 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Favre1fan93, TriiipleThreat: I'd be happy to pitch in. It's good. Love the Vision, who's got a touch of classic 1960s Silver Surfer about him ... you know, about the savagery of man and yet that spark of the divine that may etc. Love that stuff. It moves so fast, though, I need to see it again. --Tenebrae (talk) 23:00, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Wonderful! Glad to have the help and know the page will be in good hand until the "regulars" have all watched it. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:38, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I see someone has just added a summary, I didn't read it but did check the word count and it is way above 700 words.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 17:46, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * To you both, I am no longer watching the page. If you really need me on something non-plot related, please leave me a message. See you back on the page in 9 days. Also, should be watching the film before us, so hopefully he can help keep it under control as well. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:46, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not watching it either, but still trying to maintain the Reception section while avoiding plot info.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 19:52, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Just To Let You Know
Saw your edits on the Farnsworth page and I think they're fine. I don't need to do anything else. I'll leave the motivation to my dramas. (I have another answer to your post to me, on my page, too.) Playerpage (talk) 22:18, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Re
The OTRS permission was accepted. There's no copyright issue anymore, as the content was released; only/maybe notability. Wil ly  Wea zley  19:01, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Grin and Bear It
If you delete mine, you have to delete the one from this article too.

The various links to this comic strip no longer work and that strongly supports the idea the strip ended. I can't find "official" confirmation of this.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  16:12, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, , and . This particular newspaper does not run the Sunday strip. I could forward the email I was sent but I understand that's not regarded as a "reliable source" either. I responded to the email saying I needed an official announcement from King Features or a newspaper article.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  16:39, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The email I received had no details. It just said the strip ended. But I have possible good news. While I read the strip online during the week, the weekend strip appeared in a newspaper I see at a library which has an almost daily feature where people ask questions. I may also see a mention of the replacement strip when I look at the paper at the library, and that would be likely to have an explanation. The newspaper's web site is pathetic, though, so I'm not likely to see anything there without searching for it and even then ....— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •
 * Sounds good, as long as the person responding is from the newspaper and not a letter-writer from the public. --Tenebrae (talk) 18:16, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 * It never occurred to me to look at older articles. I had no reason to read this one in the real paper (the headline said it was about street musicians), but when I realized I hadn't looked online for anything, I found it.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  15:27, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Trying to help...
Heya, apologies for the unsolicited drop in...just wanted to say that while I think you're making a number of good points at WT:FILM, I'm concerned that your tone is undermining your credibility, potentially polarizing people and maybe even dissuading some people who might support your views from getting involved.

Feel free to utterly ignore what I'm saying. Just trying to help. I understand that you're frustrated and all (there are reasons why I disengaged from the situation), but you know what they say about flies and honey and vinegar and all...

Anyway, if you want to chat about it I'm totally cool with that. I won't say anything further about this unless I hear back, and I apologize if you feel I'm jumping on your case at all. Cheers! DonIago (talk) 19:30, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Accusations
Hi. I’m bringing this here to your Talk because it seems way off topic to discuss there.

At WT:FILM, I said: “I’m not accusing you of making up the problem; I’m just asking where the problem is. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 22:42, 6 May 2015 (UTC)”

But then, you called me “Someone who has accused other editors of making up a longstanding problem … --Tenebrae (talk) 00:08, 7 May 2015 (UTC)”

I’m still pretty sure I’ve never done that. Please explain; if I’ve been making accusations without realizing it, I would very much like to know, so I could stop doing it and apologize for it. Thanks. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 02:06, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply. I apologize if my rather forceful request (“Name one”) came across as insulting. I did not assume anyone was imagining the problem; rather, I thought the previous requests for concrete examples had been ignored or overlooked (and if I overlooked prior examples that had been given, I apologize again). I can see how it might be taken as an “I don’t believe you, prove it,” but that wasn’t how I meant it. I don’t think anyone is seriously suggesting we should list anything and everything that ever claims to be an award. Ideally, to me, we should list every award with a reliable secondary source, as long as this wouldn’t result in an unreasonably long list; this should prevent them from becoming too indiscriminate, I think.  Anyway, I’ll leave you alone and stop talking about this now. Take care. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 20:28, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Refactored comment
Hello, I notice that you continue to edit my personal page Grace Gealey with incorrect information about where I was born. Regardless of your resource, my actual place of birth is Butler, Pa. and moved to Grand Cayman in my toddler years. There are other various articles that state this. I would appreciate if you would discontinue the editing. Thank you. Ggealey (talk) 11:45, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:A Letter to Momo#Good article push
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:A Letter to Momo. Thanks. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:18, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

New articles
Hi Tenebrae,

After taking a break from Wikipedia (only one edit for the entire month of April), I'm now back and been inspired to create three new articles. Check out José Delbo, Adrian Gonzales (comics), and Randy DuBurke.

Mtminchi08 (talk) 04:40, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Logo description in the lede
I made my case here Talk:19_Kids_and_Counting, before you reverted. -  Cwobeel   (talk)  03:40, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Jamie Dornan's image
There has been a conflict over the use of the infobox image in the Jamie Dornan page, I'm hoping that a vote for which image might be preferable would settle the dispute. I am therefore writing to those who have edited Jamie Dornan page to voice their opinion in the Jamie Dornan Talk page so we can reach a consensus. I would welcome your opinion. Hzh (talk) 11:41, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:A.D. Vision#B-Class?
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:A.D. Vision. Thanks. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:32, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Duggar home location
Hi Tenebrae, on the Duggar family, the address you have listed, from the tax records, is the trust fund address. The family home is about half a mile away. The physical house shows up clearly on Earth View, and Google Street View, so you can compare that house to known photos of the Duggar house and they are obviously the same home. The city of Springdale shows that location as being outside of the Springdale city limits, and places it inside of Tontitown per the zoning map here ; the 2013 aerial photos Springdale uses for zoning show the house as being beyond the Springdale city limits and clearly within Tontitown. Now, I wish that was the end of it. You can find the same address listed as being in Tontitown on some sites and as being in Springdale on others (123 XYZ Rd Tontitown, AR 72762 vs 123 XYZ Rd  Springdale, AR 72762)  If you enter the address as Springdale, Google will convert it over to Tontitown, as will one national real estate site. The Zip code is Springdale, although where I live we have overlapping zip codes, so I would not count that one way or another. The House itself is specifically tagged on Google as being in Tontitown; however, the businesses near the house are tagged as being in Springdale. So I am throwing my hands up. Actually one site lists the dad as having been a Senate candidate from Tontitown, but lists his address as being Springdale, and not Tontitown. Go figure. Brimba (talk) 03:06, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations
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 * w00t w00t!--TriiipleThreat (talk) 13:06, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks
Just wanted to say thanks for keeping an eye on the Batman and Catwoman articles. It's reassuring to know there's an extra set of eyes. Cheers. JosephSpiral (talk) 00:49, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Superman Input
Hi, I'm proposing using Alex Ross' image of Superman in the Superman article's infobox. The proposal on the talk page can be found here. Please let me know what you think. Thanks! JosephSpiral (talk) 22:54, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

RFC and the edit
Sorry, I didnt notice that the page was protected. I am an editor who does closes and cant do the changes. You may have more luck getting the changes done by following the advice on this page WP:EDITREQ as ANRFC really doesnt deal with doing edits and those that do this will not see it there. AlbinoFerret 19:53, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Joya's Fun School
I got my information from TV Guides, New York Times and New York Magazine. I have a TV Guide New York City edition (September 25 - Oct. 1, 1982) edition that has Joya's Fun School airing on Friday, October 1 at 2pm. You have it ending October 1980. It continued to air on Fridays until Oct. 1, 1982. On Saturday, Oct. 9 it started airing at 6am until November 27, 1982. The final airing on WPIX was Saturday, November 27, 1982. Have Tv Guides and Tv Magazine to verify it. Mst4581 (talk) 20:06, 5 July 2015 (UTC)


 * If I send you the links with proof can you add the info. for me? -- Mst4581 (talk) 20:10, 5 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Because it was my favorite show growing up as a kid and I have communicated with the host of the show (Joya Sherrill). She sent me an episode of the show, that I posted on youtube and she also sent me an autographed photo. I have alot of knowledge of the show. That is why I wanted to correct some of the info. For the most part the info. is ok, but it didn't stop airing on Fridays until Oct. 1, 1982. Not Oct. 1980. Mst4581 (talk) 20:27, 5 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I do apologize, I don't honestly know how wickipedia works. I didn't mean to cause issues. I will just send you info. and links to you from now on. Mst4581 (talk) 20:48, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

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Kansas City Film Critics Circle
I declined your PROD on Kansas City Film Critics Circle and instead did a multiple AfD nomination, covering all the awards categories and awards years articles related to the main article. I also nominated the associated template and category for deletion. The discussion is here Articles for deletion/Kansas City Film Critics Circle (2nd nomination). Safiel (talk) 04:58, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

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finding archived links.
Hey Tenebrae. I need your help again. I seem to recall you directing me to archive link to the Wizard Magazine's top 200 comic book characters once before. But now I can't seem to find the comments about them. I at least want to know where the last link where the highest characters are at. Jhenderson 7 7 7  23:00, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

It's not as easy it may look. If you notice sometimes the links down below don't link to the next countdown. For example: here and here. It was very poorly done for navigation even when it wasn't broken. I still haven't found the last countdown article page yet. That's the one I am looking for. How did you know what the links were or find them anyway? Jhenderson 7 7 7  20:32, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Herb Trimpe
Dear Tenebrae, I'd like to help with some factual info on a page you (wonderfully) help edit, the Herb Trimpe page. Could you contact me for specifics? Figure there's a way to do that. Geez. Now … four tildes? Laflines (talk) 15:51, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for contacting me, Tenebrae. I am not sure where/how best to respond. Thanks for your offer of help, but, to be specific, the help I need is in how to have a correction for the page/article be accepted. I made the correction, but it wasn't accepted, i.e., it reverted to a prior version, undoubtedly because I was not a verifiable source. And since you seem to be The Expert, I hoped to verify said correction through you, since I cannot seem to figure out the complicated hoops one must leap through in order to acquire one's bona fides. Not that the correction is a big deal or essential, but I like my Wiki info to be as accurate as possible -- that's what makes it a dependable resource! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laflines (talk • contribs) 02:28, 15 July 2015 (UTC) (Sorry I forgot to sign off. Laflines (talk) 12:51, 15 July 2015 (UTC))

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Midtown High School AFD
I was on the verge of creating this article when it was nominated for deletion. I am just wondering if maybe more sources can possibly be discovered. You are also welcome to discuss your opinion on the AFD too if you want. Jhenderson 7 7 7  05:03, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Ant-Man cast list
Hey Tenebrae. Are you able to procure the cast list from the credits for the film, as you've done in the past with some films? If so, I'm just curious for the order and how some people are listed. Thanks. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:53, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Draft articles
Hey, Tenebrae! If you have the time, could you help me clean out some draft pages that I have pending? Beth Sotelo and David Morgan-Mar are the only ones I have that are directly related to comics, but anything you could do for any of the pages at User:BOZ/Draft pages to help get them ready for mainspace would help a ton. BOZ (talk) 00:40, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I appreciate it! BOZ (talk) 21:59, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking a look at those two. The other articles are mostly games-related, so they may not pique your interest, but regardless I appreciate any input you have for them. As regards notability, I am always hopeful for future finds, but they don't have to meet the GNG to stay as drafts until that day comes. BOZ (talk) 05:53, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Ronan Farrow.
I am Sorry!! You don't have to be rude about though. And I know all about that stuff you posted in the summary. --ACase0000 (talk) 18:14, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I apologize if I appeared rude. I only meant to be factual and give my reasons. I appreciate that you know the policies/guidelines, and I understand how sometimes in the heat of the moment we may forget about them. I'm sure you can find a cite for an "As of 2015..." sentence. --Tenebrae (talk) 18:22, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I am sorry again,. I will try and find a source. --ACase0000 (talk) 18:25, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Coe Lewis
Hi, can you help me with Coe Lewis- a page I created. I'm not sure i understand why she was deleted. I felt that i added appropriate citations and she is a well-know Disc Jockey in San DiegoJpop73 (talk) 03:40, 29 July 2015 (UTC) thanks in advance

Archive of Toonopedia
Hi Tenebrae, I just located another Toonopedia archive that you may with to add to your index. I was going to add it there for you but couldn't decide where on the page you would want it. Also, I require the archive of the Harvey Kurtzman page but I don't think it has been archived yet; do you know how to do that? Thanks. Prhartcom (talk) 17:24, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Mad magazine
 * http://toonopedia.com/mad.htm
 * http://www.webcitation.org/66C0wdYPo
 * I saw your reply on my talk page; thanks! I also required the archive of Toonopedia's R Crumb page and, thanks to your instructions, was able to pull it off: http://www.webcitation.org/6aPjkOriu


 * Thanks for doing this archive, it is really important! Prhartcom (talk) 18:27, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Xsergan (talk) 19:09, 22 September 2015 (UTC):

Hi, after reading your article on a Toonopedia backup I actually saved a local copy of the whole Toonopedia site, it's only 50 MB (33 MB zipped). If you need to have it saved, I could send it to you by mail, or tell me where to put it. Ping me xsergan at gmail if you like. It's just the zip archive, the pages won't be publicly available like you do with webcitations, but at least you won't have to worry that the site is down.

Talkback
...William 23:03, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

I got your message on your proposed deletion of the Utah Film Critics Association Awards page. The only source I had was IMDb; the funny thing is that the Utah critics do not have their own website yet.

Recognizing that Utah is the only American Film Critic Association organization that does not have a page on Wikipedia, I felt compelled to create one. In retrospect, however, I should not have done so, because of lack of strong sources.

Now, I would like to have the page deleted, if you would do the honors. Thanks, Spencer Higham

James Earl Jones
Tene, don't hate me, I just reverted your edit on his page without seeing it was you who put it in! Is there a way that we could reword that? It just looks so...unnatural the way it was just stuck in between the original text. Also, is that something that needs to be in the main text or could it be a footnote? LADY LOTUS • TALK 00:42, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

the wkipedia rules
I read the wikipedia rules. First off, it says no firm rules, thus I am free to edit where I feel is necessary, as the rules say I can. Basically you can, too, but you don't have the right to abuse that right. Thefilmlover (talk) 04:54, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

gagu13
This is thefilmlover. GaGu13 is the username for my old account, just so you knew. As for my edits on Where the Wild Thongs Are, I'm just rearranging the producer credits, I'm not adding anything horrible. There's really no difference in the edits I made. So please let them be. Thefilmlover (talk) 04:59, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Template: Justice League
I am requesting opinion on The discussion page of this navbox. I am having edit conflict with the same editor who I had disagreements on the archenemy page. Jhenderson 7 7 7  16:24, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

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The filmlover's socks
Would you mind opening an SIP for Thefilmlover's socks, such as GaGu13, the IP? I am on vacation and making reports on mobile is quite difficult. Thanks, Callmemirela  🍁  {Talk}   &#9809;  09:45, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Stop removing cited information from GIgi Hadid
Next time you'll be blocked.

Nazareth is an Israeli city according to Wikipedia

and there are 2 different sources approving Gigi's father was actually born in Nazareth, Israel. 79.179.166.109 (talk) 19:47, 16 August 2015 (UTC)


 * As I have repeatedly pointed out, it doesn't matter if he was born in Nazareth or on Mars. The birthplace of the non-notable parent of an article subject is WP:INDISCRIMINATE. --Tenebrae (talk) 21:08, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Welcome to the club
It's amazing someone with a block log as long as him is claiming another user should know better, but it's better just to ignore him. He's tried this act with me before and it didn't accomplish anything either time. Calidum T&#124;C 21:50, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Western Publishing
I appreciate your thanks for the work done on the Western Publishing article. I have added a lot of additional information, and multiple citations, and I think I have done all that I can to improve it. Time to move on. Regards. Twofingered Typist (talk) 22:22, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

My life may have just gotten more interesting...
User talk:Doniago - Someone's made a horrible, horrible mistake. :p DonIago (talk) 14:48, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Red Wolf response
When it came to Red Wolf, there was no reference left after his history in "1872" with that mini-series being part of the Secret Wars storyline. Even though the mini-series doesn't reveal which Indian tribe this Red Wolf is a member of, the part with him being saved from Mayor Wilson Fisk's men by Sheriff Steve Rogers should've remained. I originally had to put this one's history somewhere ever since some of the editors had removed all the sub-plots with "1872" being one of them. --Rtkat3 (talk) 12:17, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
 * That was what happened in issue 1 of the mini-series 1872. The references still could've been left there. --Rtkat3 (talk) 14:27, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Your revert
The purpose of what I did with the edit was not to be "Marvel Press Agent" as you claimed, but it's pretty clear to me that the paragraph was meant to be from Marvel's PoV if it's written as "Marvel counts among its characters etc etc". And what do you mean by "long stable version"? Was there an established consensus among editors in the past for who was to be listed in that paragraph to begin with, or simply because no one bothered to challenge the content, change or edit it? Because I've checked the history, and it's quite clear to me that editors have been adding or subtracting from that list for years. I know this because I have made additions without having it be reverted? Don't think it's a bit arbitrary for you to revert back to a version which is very likely to be based on original research, as opposed to what I did when I actually added sources referencing no other then the offical website of the publisher itself? Haleth (talk) 16:03, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

[Tenebrae adding header to post that had none]
Your message was unnecessarily harsh. There was no disruption or vandalism intended, i'm new and still learning. Please try to assume good faith. Anabella 16:14, 22 August 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnabellaECCG (talk • contribs)

SSNInsider
Is this reliable? From the onset to me, it doesn't look it, given their slogan is "For insiders. By insider" and the author of the piece is just their staff, which says is "industry insiders and analysts." Well who are those? You generally have good insight into sources and such when we interact, but I'm questioning this one. Thanks. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:09, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Another sock
Would you mind adding this IP as sock into the SPA for me please? Thanks, Callmemirela  🍁  {Talk}   &#9809;  01:22, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Explanation
Since you first reverted I gotta ask. Why remove the occupations. Actor and voice actor are his primary occupations, he acts. And comedian, I went scrolling through his talk page and most editors have said that he is a comedian, while a few said no. He does live comedy at numerous events. I just want a clear answer. Alpha Sunshine (talk) 23:25, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Not an actor? What! Have you seen Family Guy or A Million Ways to Die in the West. Look at Seth MacFarlane filmography. Alpha Sunshine (talk) 23:35, 20 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Please do not falsely claim something different than what someone actually said. Go to my 23:30, 20 September 2015 comment on your talk page: I said, "He is not primarily known as an actor or standup comic." I see we're continuing this discussion at the Seth MacFarlane talk page, which is appropriate. --Tenebrae (talk) 23:50, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

NOTE: User:Alpha Sunshine has been confirmed by a CheckUser as a sock puppet of Atomic Meltdown and has been blocked indefinitely. --Tenebrae (talk) 20:34, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Help
Tenebrae: Sorry for the confusing additions and thank you for cleaning them up. I wanted to add one more from Minnesota Public Radio but don't know how to add something that was quoted Jpop73 (talk)Jpob73

Yes, thanks -http://www.mprnews.org/story/2012/07/12/daily-circuit-future-of-zoos. There is a radio interview and accompanying text. at this link. Jpop73 (talk)Jpop73

Sorry -I just got your message. I was offline for sometime. but have a few hours, if you are still available. Jpop73 (talk)Jpop73

Thanks Here is the quote from the link above:

Jordan Schaul, director of conservation and science at the Alaska Wildlife Conservation Center, will also join the discussion.

"I hope zoo professionals will use their creative faculties to develop more innovative exhibits, strengthen their conservation programs, and further enhance the animal welfare interests of their collection animals," he said. "I urge zoo patrons to continue to visit their local zoological facilities. Your support can empower these living institutions and will help foster their evolution as we move toward the next century."

Is there a way you recommend paraphrasing this, if appropriate or including the quote in its entirety --what ever you think is most appropriate... Jpop73 (talk) Jpop 73 thanks again.

Awesome- thank you! Jpop73 (talk)Jpop73

Thanks again. I appreciate it Jpop73 (talk)Jpop73

Talk:Joy (film)
Thoughts? Callmemirela 🍁  &#123;Talk&#125;   &#9809;  21:41, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Mooch
Markstein says Baron Mooch started in the Examiner on 1 November, but perhaps that was just what Markstein had in his collection? Does McDonnell, et al, say what paper it was in on 12 October? (I've got the book, but it's at home and I just got to work.) Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 23:43, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I can see what Markstein says, what I'm saying is that he may be basing his date on material he actually owns. It may be that the first strip appeared in the Examiner on 1 November, but it may have appeared in another paper before then.  Does McDonnell et al not name a paper? Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 00:01, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Do you have Walker's The Comics: Before 1945? It also says 1 November 1909. Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 00:04, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, the "gold star" is mine, so don't worry about that. We have two sources stating 1 November that are both newer than the source that states 12 October, and the older source doesn't state the paper so we could verify it.  Here's an idea: we could just say "autumn 1909" and put the conflicting dates in a footnote until we can find something that definitely settles the issue? Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 00:18, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Hmmm ... R. C. Harvey gives 12 October to 19 December. Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 00:20, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * This suggests the strip perhaps began in New York? Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 00:23, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I think I'll hunt around a bit before changing it. I feel like I might be on to something. Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 00:24, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, it appears the San Francisco Academy of Comic Art collection has episodes of the strip going back to 27 September. Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 00:30, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, here's an image from 14 October 1909, so it couldn't have been 1 November. Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 00:46, 22 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Brilliant! Damn, you're a good researcher! I know Baron Mooch doesn't have his own article, so do you think there's room for adding this image to the Herriman page, captioning it with the date? And then &mdash; not to call them out on it, by any means, but just to help prevent the wrong date from continuing to be disseminated &mdash; I think we should add a footnote saying Harvey and Markstein give an erroneous date of Nov. 1. As long as we keep it to a footnote, I think we're accomplishing due diligence. Also, having both well-respected historians Harvey and Markstein in the footnote shows that the error is a common one and helps explain away Nov. 1 appearing elsewhere. What do you think?--Tenebrae (talk) 17:22, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Quinton Aaron
Hello,

Earlier today you reverted an edit I made on the article Quinton Aaron, in which you found Hollywood.com to be an unreliable source. I have found a more reliable source to prove Aaron's birthday to be August 15, and would like to invite you to join the discussion about it on the talk page.

Thank you. Hitcher vs. Candyman (talk) 21:58, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Note
I looked at the situation and saw that you were talking to each other, which is actually a positive sign. It seemed that you were exasperated, but each side was sharing info and giving reasons, so I decided to do...nothing, as it seemed like the situation might resolve. Jehochman Talk 20:34, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

American Sniper production co.
Hi. I saw your revert of the IP. I had seen his addition of RatPac-Dune Entertainment, and was initially going to revert as well, however, they are listed as one of the production companies on imdb. While I know that is usually not a reliable source, it is pretty good for production companies. Thoughts?  Onel 5969  TT me 01:17, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks for all your help
Just wanted to tell you that you've been a great example to follow for edits on comic book and related articles. I'm glad to see someone attacking problems of style as well as content in these articles, many of which sorely need such improvements. Thank you for your contributions. ComicsAreJustAllRight (talk) 02:12, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Reference errors on 12 November
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Re: Infobox errors
Thank you for your message and the compliment. :)

The marriage template does allow for the dates to be read, as can be seen when you hover the cursor over the year. The template is just showing it in a concise manner. It's actually the default if you were to just put " ": the date would at first appear as "m. 2015", but if you hovered over the date it would give you the date that was imputed into the template. Ex.:. This is why the dotted lines appear underneath the "m." and the given year. This is how the template page tells users to input the marriage info]. I actually only recently figured this out, so I know it's not necessarily immediately obvious if you're not looking for it. The use of the dates for this can be seen on a number of notable pages, such as those of European royal families, etc. Perhaps it's a topic for discussion on the template's talk page? I've checked and I don't see any discussion on it so far. ~ Iamthecheese44 (talk) 05:58, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Kim Zolciak
You can blank the page all you want, but the deleted posts are still readily available by clicking on this page's History links. Your edits at Kim Zolciak viiolate, as previously noted, both WP:BLP and WP:SYNTH. You simply cannot keep violating two of Wikipedia's core policies. You clearly seem to have an ax to grind, and so I've asked an admin to protect the page from anon IP edits. If you continue to make these uncited, POV edits, I will ask an admin to block this IP from editing. You should take your issues to the article's talk page rather than edit-warring under different IP addresses. --Tenebrae (talk) 20:00, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Please do not post threats to me. I have no axe to grind. The information is there because it needs to be there. I do not like your tone so just post on the discussion page for Kim. Good luck. 173.66.63.102 (talk) 01:05, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Neal Adams
Hi, just to let you know that the introduction of a tracking code in the URL was merely accidental (talking about |your edit on Adams article).

Apart from that, your tone in the edit summary was a bit rough (I'm probably sensible, but it was my impression). Regards, Fma12 (talk) 11:40, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi, Fma12. I apologize if I sounded harsh; I certainly didn't mean to. If it's any consolation, to save time I often use pre-set edit summaries for certain edits that I've found are best explained so as, ironically, not to offend other editors. I think if you look at it that way, you can see how my summary — "Everything in Wikipedia is announced or revealed -- we don't have to say 'it was revealed...' Also, no need for tracking code in URL — was meant to be just factual and straightforward. Nonetheless, the last thing I want to do is be off-putting to good fellow editors like yourself. --Tenebrae (talk) 19:34, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
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Mickie James
I was the one who made the edit in the Mickie James page regarding her MCW Women's Championship victory. In the match, James was the one who was attacked; she was attacked by villainous enforcer Melina. Just wanted to clear that up. Thanks! CEDJunior (talk) 16:57, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Peta Murgatroyd
I completely understand where you were coming from. It's hard sometimes to find a reliable source for some basic celebrity information. I knew Peta had revealed her middle name, but finding a source was difficult. I just wanted to make sure someone wouldn't see facebook and automatically assume it was not a sufficient source. Anyway, I appreciate your edit and comments. Thank you for being so polite and constructive. Knope7 (talk) 04:01, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

X-Men: Days of Future Past reversion
Please explain the rationale behind the reversion. My small addition concerned something which was on-screen, and I felt it necessary as I was puzzled by the sequence when I first watched the film. The previous descriptive sentence ("In a post-credits scene … four horsemen watch from nearby") fails to explain why that short scene appears. Did you mean the explanation better fits at the end of the page's lead paragraphs, where the sequel is mentioned? Urhixidur (talk) 16:02, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Superman
Did you get your books yet?BaronBifford (talk) 17:58, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Holiday Greetings
Hi Tenebrae,

Stopping by early to wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Hope all is well and that you have a wonderful holiday season.

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Jpop73
Happy Holidays. Would you have moment to look into why someone deleted this page https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ben_Sutton,_Jr.&action=edit&redlink=1 thanks --Jpop73 16:48, 10 December 2015

Suki Waterhouse image
It is licensed, as described, CC-BY YouTube conveniently hides its licensing under the SHOW MORE link in the middle of the page. --GRuban (talk) 01:29, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Tournesol.png|43px]] Thanks! --GRuban (talk) 15:50, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Superman legal battles
I'm now rewriting the section on the legal disputes over Superman in my Sandbox. As before, you are free to contribute.BaronBifford (talk) 09:18, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga#RfC:_Anime_films_and_production_companies
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga. Thanks. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:08, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
To You and Yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 04:07, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho


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Thanks!
Thanks for your attention to these edits. This behavior has been going on for several weeks, so I don't expect it to stop today. If you could keep an eye on things, it would be much appreciated. 32.218.46.251 (talk) 21:07, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

I need your help to resolve a debate
I am currently engaged in what appears to be an edit war with User:Oknazevad over the plot summary for Star Wars: The Force Awakens after said user reverted my original edit (sans some details from the previous version). We are currently debating the matter here, and I'm trying my best to convey what I believe constitutes as a suitable plot summary, but I feel it isn't enough. Would you be willing to join the discussion? User:Immblueversion (talk) 23:58, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

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Invitation to an RfC
This is a neutral notice for you to join an RfC at Star Wars: The Force Awakens given your work at the Film project. The RfC is regarding if a title including "Episode VII" should be considered an alternate title to the film. The RfC can be found here. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:41, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Poppy Harlow--apparent confusion
I have no idea what your message to me is about. The only change I made to the Poppy Harlow article was to revert a blanking of the page by an IP user to the prior unvandalized version. If it appears that I did something else, I have no explanation for the glitch and I'm honestly not even sure what your criticism means. My apologies for any misunderstanding. I do note that my userpage has been recently vandalized by an IP user. Julietdeltalima  (talk)  20:37, 28 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Ah, that actually (sort of) explains the weird thing that happened. I got a message upon saving the reversion that the article had already been changed in the interim and that the reversion was thus being cancelled, and was then surprised when my reversion showed up in the edit history as the most recent version anyway. All this must have happened practically simultaneously. Rest assured I was only intending to deal with the blanking of the article! Thanks for helping figure this out. Julietdeltalima   (talk)  20:50, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Tenebrae!


Happy New Year! Tenebrae, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Favre1fan93 (talk) 20:43, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

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Batman
Can you please weigh in on the Live-adaptations discussion on the Batman talk page? The discussion is whether or not David Mazouz should be included in one the lead paragraphs as an actor who has played Batman. I have argued against his name being listed, since this is a child actor who plays a young Bruce Wayne in the TV series Gotham and has never played the costumed superhero Batman. I believe he should be mentioned in the body of the article, but not in a lead paragraph.DrRNC (talk) 21:27, 31 December 2015 (UTC)