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Reference column
Hi Tennisvine, I noticed you added a separate column to end of Grand Slam finals tables for references, e.g. at Gerald Patterson. While it arguably creates less confusion compared to attaching the reference directly to the score we normally do not use separate columns for references but instead add them to the tournament, see e.g. Tony Wilding career statistics. Before you proceed further it would be best to discuss this at the WikiProject Tennis talk page. --Wolbo (talk) 17:27, 28 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Hello User:Wolbo, I saw your previous note on not putting the reference next to the score and agreed that could cause confusion, but it seems to me that putting it next to the tournament name makes it unclear what the ref. is specifically for. It seems to me that the extra column for the ref. is a good solution for keeping it next to the score without confusing it with the score. I will bring it up on the tennis talk page (if I can figure out how to do that - sorry, I'm obviously new here and still trying to find my way around.) Hopefully I've done this correctly and you receive this reply. Thank You Tennisvine (talk) 19:55, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

September 2015
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Refs don't go in section headings.
Per MOS:HEAD, Citations should not be placed within or on the same line as section and subsection headings. Bgwhite (talk) 06:28, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Word to the wise
Tennisvine, you say you're new here--yet you managed to ruffle a few feathers already and you continue to do so. I strongly urge you to discuss stuff on talk pages; it does not serve any purpose to make enemies. It's still a collaborative website. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 16:49, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Seriously? See WP:OVERLINK. Drmies (talk) 16:50, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

I've read the section, have you? Particulary this line "Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but if helpful for readers, a link may be repeated in infoboxes, tables..." So it seems to me that the question of linking on tables is an individual judgement. What I find curious is that of all the tables I've worked on (already linked like the one in question) and all the others on so many tennis pages, Fyunck is suddenly so concerned about this one? Is he just looking to start trouble? If this is such a concern for him, what other tables has he worked on "correcting" recently? Show me where he tried to discuss this with me. I invited all parties to come back to the page Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tennis/Article guidelines and talk – Fyunck has yet to do so. I'm not going to be bullied by him, and it's a shame you seem to want join in on it. Tennisvine (talk) 17:14, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
 * A reasonable reading of OVERLINK is that something that's already linked in the article can also be linked in a table (caption, etc.)--not that every single occurrence can be linked. But that's not the main concern here. Look, you started talk page conversations--good, I'm glad you did. But your edits seem to be reverted or opposed by more than one editor and that should tell you something. Rather than charge Fyunck with "bullying", which is a hip catch-all term that in practice usually means nothing, you could change your tone a bit. Now, I could in principle be bullying you, since bullying usually requires that one person has some kind of power over another. Fyunck has no power; as an admin, I do. But saying that I'm joining in with Fyunck's attempt to bully you is silly and not in accordance with the facts; it's more accurate to say that I agree with Fyunck that your style is very confrontational. Drmies (talk) 18:45, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

I'm confrontational because I got tired of fyunck's "your a newbie and I'm going to tell you how it is" attitude. Look, if your willing to be objective here, then I would be overjoyed to get your perspective on these issues and how best to resolve them, but saying to another editor "I haven't looked at anything yet but I am assuming you're correct" doesn't feel like objectivity. I came here and started editing because I wanted to help make Wikipedia's tennis pages better. That's still all I want to do. If you would be willing, I have some basic questions that I would love to get answers to and perhaps that could help us all to move forward. Let me know. Tennisvine (talk) 20:04, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Fire away. Drmies (talk) 20:29, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

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