User talk:Tenryuu/Archives/Jul–Dec 2020

GOCE June newsletter
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) at 15:47, 5 June 2020 (UTC).

Please Advise.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse#Is_this_Vandalism?_I_don't_know._Help!

Respond quickly before they block me for infinity. (i don't know whats going on)

Shadowblade08.2 (talk) 04:08, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Plz ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Plz can you plz review my page Draft:Languages of Central Asia plz ;D
 * Hi . I'm not a new pages reviewer and I work almost exclusively with copyediting. It's best to talk with the declining reviewer to ask if something can be done to improve the draft. The comments they left may be helpful to you. — Tenryuu 🐲  ( 💬 • 📝 )  15:45, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah sorry about the signature and thank you! 09:18, 14 June 2020 (UTC)Bumsowee (talk)

Error? Or not?
I found out that on your page, Draft:Undermine (video game), it has the exact same declination comment (Is that a word? I hope so) as on my page, Draft:Languages of Central Asia. Is this a coincidence? Is this how declining articles works? You choose from a set of comment thingies?

The text said: This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Happy editing things, Bumsowee (talk) 09:22, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

P.S. What's it like to be an administrator?
 * Since reviewers can go through many drafts a day, they use templated responses to describe the general reason for declining the draft. However, they sometimes leave individual comments between the general decline comment and the start of your draft if they notice something in particular.
 * Since I'm not an admin I can't answer your postscript, but from what I hear it's just being a regular editor with a few more tools. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  15:24, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Tenryuu 😊 🙏 using mobile device right now Bumsowee (talk) 14:47, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Editing news 2020 #2 – Quick updates
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This edition of the Editing newsletter includes information the Talk pages project, an effort to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily. The central project page is on MediaWiki.org.


 * Reply tool : This is available as a Beta Feature at the four partner wikis (Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian Wikipedias). The Beta Feature will get new features soon.  The new features include writing comments in a new visual editing mode and pinging other users by typing  . You can test the new features on the Beta Cluster.  Some other wikis will have a chance to try the Beta Feature in the coming months.
 * New requirements for user signatures : Soon, users will not be able to save invalid custom signatures in Special:Preferences. This will reduce signature spoofing, prevent page corruption, and make new talk page tools more reliable.  Most editors will not be affected.
 * New discussion tool : The Editing team is beginning work on a simpler process for starting new discussions.   You can see the initial design on the project page.
 * Research on the use of talk pages : The Editing team worked with the Wikimedia research team to study how talk pages help editors improve articles.  We learned that new editors who use talk pages make more edits to the main namespace than new editors who don't use talk pages.

– Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:11, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Worldometers
Your input would be helpful at Reliable sources/Noticeboard, --Guy Macon (talk) 19:11, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Regarding St Joseph’s College Allahabad page
Hi, greetings! I’m Harsh. I would like you to look into a possible case of vandalism going on at St. Joseph’s College Allahabad page. There’s a unnamed person with an IP 2409:4063:4107:49C8:0:0:113C:E8AD who’s constantly reverting edits and adding disruptive, irrelevant content on the page. I’ve earlier told him to add necessary references to support his claim else refrain from making the changes, he has still gone further ahead and reverted the changes twice. I’ve given him a warning for the same on his talk page. Kindly look into this! Thanks! Harshv7777 (talk) 22:19, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the heads up. I'm not the best person to go for this; you might want to go to the edit-warring noticeboard to let editors who are experienced in this field know about it. I can't see where you've warned the IP on their talk page (it hasn't been created from what I can tell). — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  22:34, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello! I mentioned that in his previous IP, his IP address keeps on changing. Thanks for your help! Harshv7777 (talk) 07:02, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

User talk:2409:4063:411D:2C1:0:0:1F76:8AD This is where I warned him. Thank you dear fellow Wikipedian though! Harshv7777 (talk) 07:10, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Editing news 2020 #3


Seven years ago this week, the Editing team made the visual editor available by default to all logged-in editors using the desktop site at the English Wikipedia. Here's what happened since its introduction:


 * The 50 millionth edit using the visual editor on desktop was made this year. More than 10 million edits have been made here at the English Wikipedia.
 * More than 2 million new articles have been created in the visual editor. More than 600,000 of these new articles were created during 2019.
 * Almost 5 million edits on the mobile site have been made with the visual editor. Most of these edits have been made since the Editing team started improving the mobile visual editor in 2018.
 * The proportion of all edits made using the visual editor has been increasing every year.
 * Editors have made more than 7 million edits in the 2017 wikitext editor, including starting 600,000 new articles in it. The 2017 wikitext editor is VisualEditor's built-in wikitext mode.  You can enable it in your preferences.
 * On 17 November 2019, the first edit from outer space was made in the mobile visual editor.
 * In 2019, 35% of the edits by newcomers, and half of their first edits, were made using the visual editor. This percentage has been increasing every year since the tool became available.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 02:06, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject Nepal 10,000 Challenge
 Namaste, Tenryuu! You are cordially invited to join the new  Thank you for your contributions to articles related to Nepal. You are invited to join the new, a challenge which aims to see 10,000 article creations. Articles on all related topics are welcome. We need numbers to make this work and do something extraordinary for Nepal on Wikipedia! Sign up on the page if interested and start contributing! If you know someone who might be interested, please invite them by using:  ~  Thanks. Bumsowee (talk | contribs) 08:30, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Saturn V
Could you do a Copyedit on Saturn V I'm trying to get it to GA. Thanks, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 00:25, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , sure! I'm just going to read through it before I start doing a copyedit. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  01:23, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Talk page
You still left duplicated material. I don't need a warning. You need to look more carefully. If you let me finish it'll be sorted correctly. MartinezMD (talk) 18:41, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , I already resolved both problems: please take a look at and . — Tenryuu 🐲  ( 💬 • 📝 )  18:44, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * We were correcting the issue at the same time. Sorry if we stepped on each other's toes. MartinezMD (talk) 18:45, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , no worries; we're both eager beavers. See you around on there. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  18:46, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Your help desk question
You did not get a response to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2020_May_31#Is_there_a_clean_method_for_exporting_articles_as_.docx? this question]. Did you find the answer elsewhere?— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  21:36, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Kind of; there's a voice-friendly script by, so I've been copying the contents over to Microsoft Word afterwards to do some more fiddling. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  21:52, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I marked it resolved so no one would wonder.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  21:54, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks! — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  21:57, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

About notability
Hi, and thanks for helping on the help desk. I noticed that on a few occasions you questioned the notability of individual additions to existing articles. As I understand it, notability (WP:N) determines whether or not an article should exist. Notability is not applied to each statement in the article. Instead, we ask about verifiability (WP:V) and relevance. Relevance: does this material add value to the article? -Arch dude (talk) 17:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , ah my apologies. I mixed those two up. I'll amend that statement. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  17:22, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

GOCE review
Hey Tenryuu. Thanks for your copyedit of Statue of Edward Colston, it's greatly appreciated :). Sorry about those hiccups, contentious topic (or something like that), apparently. I haven't been able to get around to the remaining two points you made yet, but I think I follow what you were getting at so I should be able to fix when I get around to checking my sources. Thanks again for time and efforts! ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 00:09, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Editing news 2020 #4
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Reply tool


The Reply tool  has been available as a Beta Feature at the Arabic, Dutch, French and Hungarian Wikipedias since 31 March 2020. The first analysis showed positive results.


 * More than 300 editors used the Reply tool at these four Wikipedias. They  posted more than 7,400 replies during the study period.
 * Of the people who posted a comment with the Reply tool, about 70% of them used the tool multiple times. About 60% of them used it on multiple days.
 * Comments from Wikipedia editors are positive. One said, أعتقد أن الأداة تقدم فائدة ملحوظة؛ فهي تختصر الوقت لتقديم رد بدلًا من التنقل بالفأرة إلى وصلة تعديل القسم أو الصفحة، التي تكون بعيدة عن التعليق الأخير في الغالب، ويصل المساهم لصندوق التعديل بسرعة باستخدام الأداة.  ("I think the tool has a significant impact; it saves time to reply while the classic way is to move with a mouse to the Edit link to edit the section or the page which is generally far away from the comment. And the user reaches to the edit box so quickly to use the Reply tool.")

The Editing team released the Reply tool as a Beta Feature at eight other Wikipedias in early August. Those Wikipedias are in the Chinese, Czech, Georgian, Serbian, Sorani Kurdish, Swedish, Catalan, and Korean languages. If you would like to use the Reply tool at your wiki, please tell User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF).

The Reply tool is still in active development. Per request from the Dutch Wikipedia and other editors, you will be able to customize the edit summary. (The default edit summary is "Reply".) A "ping" feature is available in the Reply tool's visual editing mode. This feature searches for usernames. Per request from the Arabic Wikipedia, each wiki will be able to set its own preferred symbol for pinging editors. Per request from editors at the Japanese and Hungarian Wikipedias, each wiki can define a preferred signature prefix in the page MediaWiki:Discussiontools-signature-prefix. For example, some languages omit spaces before signatures. Other communities want to add a dash or a non-breaking space.

New requirements for user signatures

 * The new requirements for custom user signatures began on 6 July 2020. If you try to create a custom signature that does not meet the requirements, you will get an error message.
 * Existing custom signatures that do not meet the new requirements will be unaffected temporarily . Eventually, all custom signatures will need to meet the new requirements. You can check your signature and see lists of active editors whose custom signatures need to be corrected.  Volunteers have been contacting editors who need to change their custom signatures.  If you need to change your custom signature, then please read the help page.

Next: New discussion tool
Next, the team will be working on a tool for quickly and easily starting a new discussion section to a talk page. To follow the development of this new tool, please put the New Discussion Tool project page on your watchlist.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:48, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Voice: 110 Emergency Control Room has been accepted
 Voice: 110 Emergency Control Room, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. Most new articles start out as Stub-Class or Start-Class and then attain higher grades as they develop over time. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the  [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_talk/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Voice:_110_Emergency_Control_Room help desk] . Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider.

Thanks again, and happy editing! Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:18, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Advice for newcomers
Hello, You are receiving this message because you are invited to take part at Advice for newcomers where you can provide advice that will help our newcomers in the future. It is not a discussion forum, just a place where you say what advice would be helpful to our future editors. I would like to get at least 100 editors to take part in this so please feel free to spread the word to other editors as well. I look forward to seeing what you say to newcomers. Interstellarity (talk) 13:21, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the invite! You may want to send the newer link instead of the redirect as the current one is being proposed for speedy deletion. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  15:16, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Here is the newer link Editor advice for newcomers. Interstellarity (talk) 15:40, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for attempting to tidy AEDP
Or is it ADEP? Who can say? And thank you for undoing your tidy attempt, too. So many folk leave a mess behind themselves. It's good to meet an editor who cares. Fiddle  Faddle  07:30, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

The new video
Hey there, just checking in here to notify you about the script, which is already perfect enough for narration. We do need an editor for the video, though.  Gerald WL  16:59, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks! I did make a few changes with a request for clarification for a point (made in green). Alas, I do not know anyone on here that is interested or skilled in making a video. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  19:23, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for tagging it, it has now been clarified. I will probably try finding one on WikiProject COVID-19.  Gerald WL  04:14, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for September 7
An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Jige, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Fulcrum.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 08:37, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Autoconfirmation/Cookie


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To spread the goodness of cookies, you can add {{subst:Cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{subst:munch}}!

Accounts and autoconfirmation
I understand that I need to create an account to be autoconfirmed, but if I do, I've learned that it will just get blocked. But if I stick with the IP address, I won't get blocked, so I have the chance to make constructive edits. 2601:1C2:4E00:B89:D079:95A0:153D:FC43 (talk) 23:48, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Unless your edits are construed as disruptive or WP:NOTHERE, you shouldn't have any problems with being blocked. Have you been blocked before? If so, this does technically count as block evasion. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  00:23, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Do you mean "this" as in editing with the IP address or creating a new account? 2601:1C2:4E00:B89:D079:95A0:153D:FC43 (talk) 01:45, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Your editing from this IP, as you have learned that [an account] will just get blocked, which implies you've had an account before. As AlanM1 over at the Help Desk said, creating an account is more anonymous. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  01:53, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Subaru Natsuki
Thanks for copyediting Subaru Natsuki. I noticed you left hidden messages and that in an edit summary you said you would be start a section in the talk page. I tried solve every issue you left in the article just in case. Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 23:26, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Azarmi Dukht Safavi
Hello:

Don't forget that book titles need to be italicised. This needs to be done with the list of books included in the article on Azarmi Dukht Safavi before the c/e can be considered completed.

Reagrds,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 19:03, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the heads up. I was focusing more on the body as everything past it seems like it needed some other maintenance. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  19:05, 1 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I understand. As part of a copy edit you would not be expected to look for the missing citations unless you wished to do so. But making sure what is included in the article meets the standards suggested in the MOS is required. Many thanks for your contributions. Regards Twofingered Typist (talk) 19:17, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Closing ANI complaints
Hello, Tenryuu,

It's helpful that you are closing complaints filed at ANI when they are resolved but please remember to tag them with a after your signature which indicates. It's important for some editors to know whether a case has been closed by an admin or a regular editor. Thanks for all of your work! Liz Read! Talk! 03:14, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , apologies for that. The use of nac escapes me more often than nacmt for some reason. I'll keep that in mind. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  04:27, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Eliminating -structured lists at American Revolutionary War
I was going to convert the lists in the infobox to be template-structured for accessibility reasons (see MOS:PLIST), but then I noticed you were working on the article, so to avoid edit conflicts I've put the changes in my sandbox. Please copy the changes over at your leisure. Note that I've also cut some text explaining the situation vis-à-vis the Spanish and French involvement which really doesn't belong in the infobox. Hairy Dude (talk) 22:16, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * so you can see what changed. Note that a bot removed pp-protected. Hairy Dude (talk) 22:22, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the diff and heads up. I'm done working on the article for today so you're more than welcome to make the formatting changes yourself to the infobox. For the cut text, I suggest bringing up the issue on the talk page so that the regular editors (Gwillhickers and TheVirginiaHistorian) are aware and can discuss its removal. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  22:26, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ (including the suggested talk page comment). Thanks! Hairy Dude (talk) 22:58, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Expediting line-edit at ARW
Tenryuu: I am interested in trying another approach to expedite the line-edit at ARW. I propose that you make a line item review for a section, then post it. I will try to answer that day, I'll let you know if I cannot. After a two days looking at the feedback, if there are no objections, make the copyedit, then proceed to the next section.

For those items that are not resolved or acquiesced to in silence at the end of the second day your time and called "completed", they are still labelled "Pending" and will fall to me and Gwillhickers to sort out. On the fifth day Gwillhickers Pacific Time, the two of us can run out an RfC to see if there can a an expeditious resolution. If not, the article is substantially improved by your help here, and each tick "completed" is a win for you.

Meanwhile, you can continue making your very valuable contribution as a copy-editor and keep moving forward. As you present a review of a section we can ping the most recent editors. If they do not reply to two pings in a row, we can drop them from the ping list, no need going and asking for trouble. But new names will be added each week as we roll forward.

Again, we will be leaving the line-item review items immediately accessible with a click at an editable section. At each ping, remind editors with a quick note that they can access section reviews at a later time, and bring them to the fore for discussion by posting a comment in the "editable subsection" so it shows on the Talk page just outside and below the section's collapsable box.

In that way we can always circle back to engage comments that contributing editors would like to reopen as we go. Same time-line applies for your attention: two calendar days your time at a reopened item. Meanwhile, each day or two, the article gains by getting another line-edit from you for a new section.

At your upcoming line-item review, I propose you ping thirteen editors with an invitation to contribute to the editorial panel: 11 from main-space : TheVirginiaHistorian, Gwillhickers, A D Monroe III, Freezing Wedge, Hairy Dude, Ethan995(talk), Clay, The Soldier of Peace, Eastfarthingan, DTParker1000, Robinvp11. Two more from Talk : The Four Deuces, Mathglot. We shall be a motley crew if all show up for every line-item copy-edit.

I look forward to a good collaborative effort together. Nevertheless, following this procedure, you can complete the article spending no more than two days on a section: just "get your thoughts down on paper", as it were. I will respond as quickly as I can. Once your first pass through is done, I would appreciate if you were to stick around, but if it becomes contentious, you may want to excuse yourself from any developing fray. Nevertheless, you will always have my very great thanks and appreciation for the helping hand. - TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 19:53, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

American Revolutionary War
Hi! I noticed the template message on the top of the article American Revolutionary War. How can I help? Dswitz10734 (talk) 13:49, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi . I'm doing a (focused) copyedit of the entire article, so I swap it out whenever I have a copyedit session. As far as help goes, there's a lot of activity going on over on the talk page, so maybe you have something to contribute to some of the other discussions on there? — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  23:06, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Undermine (video game) moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Undermine (video game), does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 08:36, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for doing that. That is my first created article so I had no idea that was an option. I'll browse the appropriate help page before I get started again. -- Tenryuu (🐲 • 💬 • 🌟) 01:50, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Undermine (video game)


Hello, Tenryuu. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Undermine".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the, , or  code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:08, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors September 2020 Newsletter
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:03, 19 September 2020 (UTC)