User talk:Terence Gunning

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Roy Keane
Hi Terence,

Just got a question about your edit to Roy Keane: "This caused much anguish in the English press as Keane had already booked himself in for a hip operation and was due to miss those three matches anyway." The way I remember it, he needed to have the operation sooner or later and United decided he might as well go in for it while he was suspended, rather than the suspension being arranged after he'd decided to go in. Are you sure it was the other way round?

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CTOAGN 15:45, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

-- Hey there CTOAGN, thanks for the question! You might be right, it's hard to verify this and I'm depending on my memory for this, which is not the most reliable in the world! But if you are right, and he booked the operation after the game, I still think he knew exactly what he was doing. After the game, the press was full of pontification about how he was unable to control himself, etc, etc, but I think elbowing McAteer was a completely premeditated act. He waited till the last seconds of the game, hoping that United could score a winner, but when he reckoned they wouldn't and there was nothing for him to lose, he elbowed McAteer. It was a violent act, but it wasn't mindless, or "boiling over", or any of the other things it was called in the media. He just knew that there would be no consequences, not during the match, and not afterwards either, so it was in a way the perfect crime, because there could be no punishment. I think that's the main point I was trying to make with my edit. It's a very controversial moment in his career that I think has been misinterpreted because the English press has demonised him. Terence Gunning 10:59, July 22, 2005 (UTC)