User talk:TerminalPreppie/Archive2008

Companies in Rochester metropolitan region
The list of companies is "way too long" because....well there are actually many companies that have operations in the Rochester metropolitan region. There are more companies, including LARGE companies that have operations here as compared to similar sized metros, such as Buffalo. This IS an Encyclopedia right....if you want, you can start another page linking the list of companies. Otherwise your complaints are not warranted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Funnybs2004 (talk • contribs) 01:39, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Constellation Brands has revenue of OVER 5 BILLION DOLLARS for fiscal 2007 and is based in the ROCHESTER Metropolitan region in MONROE County. HOME PROPERTIES had 448 MILLION DOLLARS in Revenue for fiscal 2006. GATE HOUSE MEDIA also has near one half billion dollars in revenue. ESL Federal credit union has 3 BILLION DOLLARS in assets. It is clear that you have never read the Rochester Business Journal!!!!!! THESE MULTI-MILLION and BILLION dollar companies are based in Monroe County, with Home properties actually being based in the City of Rochester. There is no wikipedia page for the region....only the "Rochester Region" page. If you want to make a new page....go ahead...but stop complaining about information regarding the region being added to this page.

Remove Crazydog teeshirts and Finger lakes coffee roasters....although they are companies based in the region can be removed because they do not disclose revenues.

Funnybs2004 (talk)BRIAN STIEHLERFunnybs2004 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 01:13, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

74.92.6.17
Stopped editing 2 hours ago, don't add back. John Reaves 18:39, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

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Port Huron hockey
I'm going to spend the day straightening out Port Huron hockey history. There were three separate franchises in the city, but their history is messed up among several articles. I will be expanding the following:
 * 1) Port Huron Flags article for the original team from 1962 to 1981
 * 2) Port Huron Border Cats / Port Huron Beacons I'm researching to see if the Border Cats folded outright, or became the Beacons... or if the Beacons are completely separate.
 * 3) The second Port Huron Flags history merged into the current Port Huron Icehawks.

Let me know if you have other information. Thanks. Flibirigit (talk) 16:01, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Off hand I fairly sure the beacons were not a rebranded Border Cats. I think they came from somewhere else though (Asheville or New Haven?). That's just my foggy memory and isn't based on any sources. ccwaters (talk) 18:03, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I've put them together for now, but as you know, sources are difficult to find for lower-level professional leagues. I'm separating the Flags now. Flibirigit (talk) 18:15, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


 * For the second Port Huron Flags team, it appears they did go defunct according to this from the IHL web site. I'm going to search more. If its true, I think we should create the Port Huron Flags (UHL) article, separate from the Port Huron Flags (IHL) article. Flibirigit (talk) 19:36, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Here's the article for ceasing operations. Flibirigit (talk) 19:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't have a source at my fingertips, but I do know the Border Cats folded, and the Beacons were a new franchise; it was in the Hockey News at the time.   RGTraynor  12:09, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I couldn't find anything linking those two teams. I created separated articles for each. Flibirigit (talk) 16:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

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Local sports organization deleted
Hello, would like to get information on why the local sports league, Lehigh Valley Rollergirls, is "non notable" in the sports and entertainment section of Lehigh Valley wiki page. Thanks for your time. Edb99 (talk) 16:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Simply put, because Wikipedia has standards of notability and verifiability for articles in general and athletics in particular. A Google search of  "Lehigh Valley Roller Girls" returns a miniscule 47 unique hits, every single one of which is a Myspace page or a roller club website.  This fails the standards fairly spectacularly.    RGTraynor  17:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I couldn't say it better myself. ccwaters (talk) 13:00, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I appreciate the information. A search of google returns hits for local news agencies and/or organizations including WFMZ, Morning Call, BerkMont News, The Hawk, BrewFest, Sportsfest, etc. And while this still might not be enough to warrant inclusion, please keep in mind that new wiki users are learning the ropes and the condescending tone isnt necessary. Thanks again. Edb99 (talk) 15:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

ottawa -> bingo -> elmira
I have only the press releases at the Elmira web-site. The most recent is at here. I believe it is simple co-operation, but McKenzie is a Sens draft choice. If you follow this search at the Elmira site, you see that Ottawa has re-assigned players to Elmira before. They obviously have something there. Alaney2k (talk) 17:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

=2008 ice hockey==

Regarding Czech Republic in the 2008 Ice hockey championships. If Switzerland lose the currently ongoing game to Russia, Czech republic will be 2nd ahead of Sweden and Switzerland (see Talk:2008_IIHF_World_Championship. (This is actually a likely scenario, Russia-Switzerland is 3-0 atm.)Lejman (talk) 17:59, 12 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I didn't see that. I don't think Sweden as the 3rd spot locked up then. See the tiebreaker for 3 or more teams: http://www.iihf.com/channels/iihf-world-championship/home/format-rules.html ccwaters (talk) 18:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

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Minor leaguers and notability
I respectfully disagree. When an article subject is obviously not notable, a speedy is in order. The minor leaguers who had articles posted by User:Babyhawk were about players who had not had any time in the NHL, had received no notable awards from the AHL or any other minor league, and were not notable in any other fashion. Moreover, it looked to me like Babyhawk was simply copying material from Rockford's media guide — I even thought he might be the team's PR guy. But these article were pretty cut and dried in my opinion, and dragging them into PROD or AfD seemed meaningless. If it's a borderline call, I do go to PROD first, but these weren't, IMHO. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 19:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Just a note that they have all been restored. All the players meet WP:BIO standards in that they played in a fully professional league. Whether or not they played in the NHL or not doesn't matter as the standard only requires them to play in a league which is fully professional, which these players have. That being said I am looking into copyvios and will be editing any I find out of the articles. -Djsasso (talk) 19:37, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

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Phillies
KV5 •  Squawk box  •  Fight on!  19:13, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

AIFA
I apologize for the legal threat please remove.

thank you --Michaelmink (talk) 17:23, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

ChunkIt! talk page
Hi just wondering the reason for your post on the ChunkIt! talk page. that was my first attempt, about a month and a half ago. I had resubmitted under different capitalization (It!) about 3 weeks ago, and it was deleted. The article I just submitted has changes that differentiate it from the new capitalization, not the old one you posted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjbyrne (talk • contribs) 20:35, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Why wouldn't I mention that there's been relevant discussion of these articles? ccwaters (talk) 20:47, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

rochester pic
not sure about the river, looks same as always to me..

hope the new pic suffices?

DaveEvilarry (talk) 14:10, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

edit summary at Buffalo, New York
You know I completely understand why you added the comment to my user talk page about me calling an editor an asshole. really I do, but really I am just getting completely sick of reverting anon vandalism BS. I'll never understand why someone wants to act like that. Sorry Just fed with tryting to keep good articles on wikipedia... Tommycw1 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 03:00, 21 September 2008 (UTC).

WHY WAS REVIEW OF COVELESKI STADIUM DELETED?
Ok, I understand adding a photo gallery to some players page may be crossing the line of advertising. I appologize and won't do that again. However, I don't understand why my ballpark reviews link was deleted...

Look at the links on the Coveleski Stadium for example. The links that you are allowing are small-parks.com, ballparkreviews.com, and littleballparks.com. Now I ask you this... what is the difference between those links and the ballpark reviews link that I posted?

For example Ballparkreviews.com is ran by a baseball fan (Brian Merzbach, who I have talked to quite a few times) who travels the US and takings photos and writes reviews of major and minor league ballparks. He is not affiliated with any "official" team or stadium or league. I am doing the EXACT same thing he is doing. I travel the US and take photos and write extensive reviews for fans to read about at each different ballpark, including physical architechural features of the stadium, seating layouts, game atmosphere, and so on. Also listed is factual information such as the architect, the year the ballparks were built, capacity, and the cost to build.

This is not a matter of posting spam. My website, david-mccann.com is nothing but a baseball website with accurate information, just go look at it. It is no different than any of the links you are allowing to keep. Whys are those 3 ballpark links allowed to stay and mine is not? —Preceding signed comment added by Davidm8985 (talk • contribs) 08:53, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

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Template: Vancouver Canucks roster
Hiya Ccwaters. Alaney2k is correct, the diacritics are shown in the city names. I don't like it myself, but apparently I'm in the minority. GoodDay (talk) 18:08, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Not me. Alaney2k (talk)


 * Where was this decided? ccwaters (talk) 18:10, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * That's a question I've had on my mind for ages. It was always my understanding that diacritics would be completely hidden on the NHL team articles. Anyways, Djsasso & Krm500 could answer this, better then I. GoodDay (talk) 18:18, 19 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll post a few links for ya explaining what the situation is. Basically, it comes down to place-name translations. Names of cities should only be changed if there is a direct English traslation (ie: München becomes Munich). You can see in this discussion some reasoning. Also, there are at least five similarily named discussions on diacritics at the WT:HOCKEY archive. It is an over-ruling Wikipedia policy to have these in place names, as you can read about at WP:NCGN from which it states the following: "Please remember that many local names, like Paris or Berlin, are widely accepted in English. Frequently, English usage does include the local diacritics, as with Besançon. On the other hand, there are cases in which English widely uses the local name without adopting some non-English spelling convention or diacritic. In either case, follow English usage. When the diacritics are used in the article title, however, please create a redirect at the title without the diacritic, as not all Wikipedia users can readily type accented characters." Only player names in NHL-related articles are to have diacritics hidden, not geographical locations. – Nurmsook!  talk...  19:49, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Nurmsook basically beat me to it, removing diacritics isn't a translation. Munich as mentioned is a translation and in such cases should be used. However, most lesser known towns do not have direct translations and as such go by their official name. Its not a project thing, its an overall wikipedia thing. -Djsasso (talk) 20:12, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Putting in diacritics breaks the sorting. Non-english characters are not supported. What Dj says is true, removing the diacritics is not a translation. However, we do have a cite for the place names without the diacritics, and that is in the roster page the Canucks put up. I do not know why the english wikipedia puts up with the insertion of non-english characters. Just because you can enter the characters on your keyboard, doesn't mean you are conveying how the character is pronounced, which is the point of the diacritics. I pronounce the o with dots as the regular o. I don't believe that the english editors go to the other wikipedias and stir this up. As for the rosters, I don't believe that we permit the city names with diacritics. None of the other rosters have the city names spelled that way. And we don't allow diacritics on player names, so why on the city name? So I believe the wp:hockey standard is not to use diacritics. That explains my comments in the editing summary. I don't really care about the Canucks, :-) I was fixing it to be like the others. Alaney2k (talk) 15:32, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * This has been argued many times. Wiki policy trumps project policy plain and simple. The nhl.com website uses incorrect spelling rules for the rules of city names and has such has been labeled as unreliable when it comes to spelling. Thirdly they are not non-english characters. This is a misconception that some people have, these characters are used in the english language, just not alot. All of the rosters had the city names with diacritics as this was most recently discussed when we first put into use the new roster templates, they were recently changed by accident and Nurmsock was reverting back to the original. -Djsasso (talk) 19:30, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you ever use characters other than the 26 in an English class? No. They are not english characters, or they would be included in the curriculum of English grammar, spelling and literature. And obscure studies of 8th century don't count, because those were other languages, e.g. Anglo-Saxon, Frank, whatever. Your comment is bizarre on that point. Alaney2k (talk) 16:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I commend you Ccwaters, for your efforts. I still see those city name dios, as a finger-in-eye to (us) anti-dios editors. GoodDay (talk) 21:59, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Here are four cites for the spelling of the home town for Daniel Sedin:
 * NHL.Com: Ornskoldsvik, Sweden
 * TSN.Ca: Ornskoldsvik, Sweden
 * hockeydb.com: Ornskoldsvik, Sweden
 * NHLPA: Sweden, ORNSKOLDSVIK

All commonly used as sources for hockey pages. This must demonstrate a common use aka wide acceptance of that spelling in English. I am sure I can dig up many more. Alaney2k (talk) 16:51, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * No it shows a laziness of website administrators to type the names correctly. Reliable sources for city names (which if you would read the discussions in the wp:hockey archives) are atlases etc which all spell them with diacritics. -Djsasso (talk) 17:45, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Why do you think you must insult those web sites? Why must you think your opinion is right? Alaney2k (talk) 18:12, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Because of hearing things from certain editors along the lines of "I don't like them cause I have to hit a few more keys". And because alot of those sites just do a straight copy paste of media package info into their web design. So once it was spelled one way by one site it got spelled that way on all the sites. And I think my opinion is right for the same reason you think your opinion is right. Anyways this is my last comment on this on this talk page. If you want to discuss pick one location. I am sure cc would prefer less spam. -Djsasso (talk) 18:21, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Can we move this to WP:HOCKEY please. I'm definitely interested, but the project is better venue than my talk page. ccwaters (talk)