User talk:Termos1975

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Thanks! Termos1975 (talk) 13:02, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Let's avoid a navbox war
Dear Termos1975, I notice that you're busy removing the navbox "Swedish Communism" and inserting your own for the Left Party all over the place. You also claim that the "Swedish Communism" navbox is POV. Sorry, but you have obviously not understood the function of that navbox. It's simply an old infobox which has been in use for a long time in most of the articles, and it's all part of the Communism Portal. I've just improved the info in it and have changed to a navbox, as several of the pages with that infobox had too many infoboxes already. If you check it, you'll see that I've set out the years for when the various parties and newspapers were communist.

Where it's appropriate, both navboxes should be there. Best regards Thomas Blomberg (talk) 14:19, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your message! I know it is an old navbox, and I do not blame you for improving it. However, i feel it is way more suitable to use the navbox I designed. The main reason is that the mix of history is really bad in the communist box. Why even imply that the Left Party is communist or have connections with scets like the old KPML(r) and so on? I think its better we avoid linkages with risks of treacherous features. Termos1975 (talk) 14:31, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

I do not want a edit war either. How can we work together on this? Termos1975 (talk) 14:36, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Both navboxes serve their purpose. The "Swedish Communism" navbox is part of Wikipedia's Communism Portal and should be displayed in every article it refers to, which is how Wikipedia navboxes are intended to work, so you can jump from one to the other. The same goes of course for your navbox: it should basically be on every page it links to (except the links to general words like Socialism and associated organisations). Many of the persons and political parties listed in the "Swedish Communism" navbox are/were interlinked, which is why the navbox serves a useful purpose. Take Hilding Hagberg, for instance, who was both party leader of SKP before Hermansson and then one of the leaders of the breakaway AKP. Similarily, Häglund, Kilbom, Flyg and several others belonged to different communistic parties during various times. And Norrskensflamman left VPK in 1977 together with Hagberg to AKP, and historically it has been a publication for both the Social Democrats, SKP, VPK and AKP (however, please note that the modern "Flamman" is not a Left Party publication. It specifically states that it's independent, although it shares many of the views of the Left Party).
 * The fact that the Left Party hasn't been communist for the last 22 years doesn't change the fact that the party's roots are communist and that it regarded itself communist for 71 years. And if you check the Swedish Communism navbox, you'll see that it states that the Left Party, under the names SKP and VPK was communist only 1919-1990.
 * I just had an idea: Perhaps your Left Party Navbox should only cover the period from 1990 only, i.e. perhaps with the headline "Left Party since 1990"? It would then be a navbox for the post-communism period only, and would not have to be burdened by the often confusing party splits of the 1920s and the 1970s. That can be handled by the "Swedish Communism" navbox, as it specifically only deals with the party's 1919-1990 period.
 * The purpose of Wikipedia is to give neutral facts, not to be a PR platform for any organisation or company. I know that many in the Left Party would prefer to play down its communist past, but it is an important fact and it does have links even to loonies like Frank Baude, as they share the same roots. One solution, however, which would also make a better article, would be to break down the Left Party article into more articles, at least do a special one for its colourful history. That way, the modern party would get more of the space. Thomas Blomberg (talk) 16:01, 12 April 2012 (UTC)