User talk:TerriAnneBaker

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Your submission at Articles for creation: TerriAnneBaker (August 6)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Nathan2055 were:

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Nathan2055talk - contribs 17:53, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:TerriAnneBaker


A tag has been placed on User:TerriAnneBaker, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. Nathan2055talk - contribs 17:53, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: TerriAnneBaker (August 11)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


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Theroadislong (talk) 21:01, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

August 2020
Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. This is just a note to let you know that I've moved the draft that you were working on to Draft:Problem Child Soca, from its old location at User:TerriAnneBaker. This has been done because the Draft namespace is the preferred location for Articles for Creation submissions. Please feel free to continue to work on it there. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to ask me on my talk page. Thank you. Nathan2055talk - contribs 21:02, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Problem Child Soca


A tag has been placed on Draft:Problem Child Soca, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. Nathan2055talk - contribs 21:02, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:TerriAnneBaker


A tag has been placed on User:TerriAnneBaker requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Theroadislong (talk) 21:37, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: TerriAnneBaker (August 11)
 Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=User:TerriAnneBaker Articles for creation help desk] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Nathan2055 was: This submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia.

Nathan2055talk - contribs 21:54, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:TerriAnneBaker


A tag has been placed on User:TerriAnneBaker, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:
 * It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.
 * It appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free Web hosting service. (See section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion.)

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Nathan2055talk - contribs 21:54, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

August 2020
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from User:TerriAnneBaker, a page you have created yourself. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Contest this speedy deletion which appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. Nathan2055talk - contribs 21:55, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Problem Child Soca has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Problem Child Soca. Thanks! -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 22:54, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

August 2020
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Request to re-activate IP address
Why have you been "relentlessly" trying to add this article? What is your connection to the subject? Your user page is not article space or place to draft an article. 331dot (talk) 12:18, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

TerriAnneBaker and Problem Child Soca
I honestly have NO idea what I am doing. I have read every article that Wikipedia has suggested to read to help me write this.

Problem Child is a Soca Music Artist. I would like to write an article about him as there isn't one. I have tried using the article on Machel Montano and obviously it is not helping me. To be very honest, I find this process very confusing.

I didn't mean to delete whatever comments you wrote. I actually have no idea what I did to delete them to be honest. I just want to add an article. I have taken out everything that seems to be bias but still it gets deleted.

maybe I am dumb but I need SPECIFIC examples of where I am going wrong because I just don't know.

Please HELP ME instead if deleting everything I do.
 * How did you come to write about this person? You just told about the person and what they do. Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a subject, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability, in this case, the definition of a notable musician. 331dot (talk) 13:15, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

When looking at the article for Skinny Fabulous (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinny_Fabulous) I'm not seeing a big difference between what he has published and what I am trying to publish. Are you sugesting I need to remove the links to the youtube songs? It's the only real difference I see:


 * You are using as a reference an article that is itself problematic; this is why the existence of other similar articles does not justify allowing yours, please see other stuff exists. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inappropriate articles to go undetected, even for years. Please review the links I put in my last post. Please also answer my question. 331dot (talk) 13:47, 12 August 2020 (UTC)


 * For ease of reading, I have removed the article you copied here, as you linked to it. 331dot (talk) 13:49, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

If I'm understanding correctly, if I remove the links to other artists and the songs on Youtube than the article will meet requirements?

As mentioned, Problem Child does not have an article. As I am a fan, don't I have a place here to write it?
 * I don't think you are just a random fan, much as MER-C notes above. And no, removing the links will not confer notability on this person. They must be shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources to meet Wikipedia's special definition of a a notable musician. Any article should only summarize what such sources say. 331dot (talk) 16:41, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

So, I'm not allowed to publish an article for someone that is not myself? This artist is my best friend's sister's artist. She asked me to create this article on her behalf because Wikipedia says the content can't be biased. If none of us are allowed to create an article about this artist than who is? And since we are not Shertz James (aka Problem Child Soca), this is not an auto-biography.

What needs to be removed in order for Problem Child to have an article?


 * For an article to exist, an author would need to show through reliable sources that Problem Child is a notable musician. The drafts that were made did not do that.  They were filled with YouTube links, hence why they were removed as spam and advertising and why this account has been blocked and remains blocked.  Please show us, with reliable sources how the subject meets our notability for musicians guidelines.  only (talk) 11:28, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

I would love to do that but my IP remains blocked. How can I proceed with a blocked address? Do I need to create in the sandbox and use the "submit" command until the Wikipedia volunteers are happy?
 * You can show us right here on this talk page. this is the only page you have access to while the block remains in place.  only (talk) 11:37, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Cool. So I can continue to recreate the article in this talk page here with you and you will help me get it ready for posting?


 * No, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that if you believe that Problem Child is worthy of an article, you need to show us the reliable sources that show he's notable.
 * FOr this account to be unblocked, you need to show us that you understand how reliable sources work and what is notable and not. If unblocked, what edits will you make that are NOT associated with Problem Child?  only (talk) 12:17, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

What is a reliable source for showing/proving the songs that Problem Child has written? Also, if I can't user YouTube to showcase the album releases, what reliable source can I use?
 * I can't really answer that as I don't know what sources have covered the artist. YouTube isn't a reliable source, though.  You should look through pages like WP:RS to find out more about reliable sources.  only (talk) 12:17, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
 * The issue is not reliable sources for the songs this person has written. The issue is reliable sources showing how this person meets the Wikipedia definition of a notable musician.  Which of the listed criteria do you assert that this person meets? 331dot (talk) 12:39, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

The Wikipedia page suggests that in order to be a notable musician that there needs to be proof he has won something or whatever. I have given the link to the OFFICIAL St Vincent Mas page where it shows he won in 2007 and 2009. In order to even qualify for this competition, you must be a musician.

He has also release 2 international albums which I also tried to include but I understand that youtube is not a credible source.

Please forgive me if this comes off as rude, but, may I request that this article be reviewed by someone with a West Indian decent? They may better understand the content I am trying to write about.
 * Not a draft article so review not required, subject does not pass WP:NMUSICIAN, which states "Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award." Theroadislong (talk) 13:50, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 * While some users identify what nationality or race they are, there is no way to be certain of those things. It is also not required that editors have a personal familiarity with the subject in order to edit or review an article(and in some cases it's helpful to have outside eyes).
 * Is the competition you describe a "major music competition"? That's the criteria.  Even if this person won it, they still must have significant coverage in independent reliable sources which have a reputation of fact checking and editorial control to merit an article. 331dot (talk) 14:37, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes. And according to Wikipedia, you seem to agree - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival_Road_March

I appreciate that not everyone understands the West Indian culture. But as a moderator, I feel it's important that you are educated on "Carnival". That said, Road March is pretty much the biggest award you can win in the West Indian culture.

PC qualifies for the following: 4.	Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country.[note 4] -> PC performs (and has been performing for YEARS) at pretty much EVERY carnival in the Caribbean. These concerts are advertised via promotional flyers, which are not credible sources. What can be used to showcase concerts hes performed? 8.	Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award. St Vincent Road March 2 times which is written and linked to the official St. Vincent Mas website (http://www.carnivalsvg.com/2018/07/11/road-march-1971-2015/). He also made it to the Soca Monarch finals in Trinidad in 2020. Another major milestone in the West Indian culture. 9.	Has won first, second or third place in a major music competition. -> As noted in my previous example, he has won FIRST PLACE 2 times for St Vincent Road March (http://www.carnivalsvg.com/2018/07/11/road-march-1971-2015/) 12.	Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network. -> PC was featured on Soaked in Soca (https://www.soakedinsoca.com/post/problemchild) in July 2020. Which is also included in my article.

As requested, can you refer me to someone who better understands the West Indian culture so that they an guide me to what Wikipedia considers credible sources for Soca Music.
 * It's up to you to make a persuasive case regardless of who is evaluating your work. If evaluating your claims is dependent on the nationality of the reviewer, that would call into question the strength of your claims with regards to a global encyclopedia. In any event, you need to make an unblock request first before anything more can be done. 331dot (talk) 20:22, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I would also suspect that the number of West Indian editors relative to editors as a whole is low. You might be waiting a long time for one. 331dot (talk) 20:25, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Unblock
I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean. The only account that should now be associated with me is this one. I created 2 previous accounts and request that BOTH be deleted so I can work off this account.

Please provide next steps for resolving the issue you mentioned '''"Checkuser verified abuse of multiple accounts, and block evasion.

You won't be getting unblocked unless you address this issue."'''


 * What are the "2 previous accounts" that you had? only (talk) 14:01, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

The accounts I requested to have deleted are: 1. Problem Child Soca - I requested this to be deleted because while I am not the artist "Problem Child" I was advised that I cannot have an account name as the name of the person I am writing about. 2. Kymirah Media - I requested this to be deleted because wikipedia says I can't use the artists management company.

So I created a new account, using my own name, removed everything in the article that seems to favour the artist. Linked his awards to the official announcement and removed all links to YouTube which I would like to now have reviewed.

October 3, 2020 Still waiting for help on this. I have requested that the other accounts be closed but was refused this request by wikipedia. So now I'm stuck, I can't get this account unlocked because of the duplication of other accounts and I can't get the other accounts deleted so how do I get out of this loop and get my account unlocked so that I can finally add an article. Can you please give me the steps I need to take to get out of this loop?
 * Accounts cannot be deleted, for both technical and legal reasons. The only thing you can do is abandon your other accounts and never use them again.  You are free to make another unblock request on this account, but you will need to explain why you were not entirely forthcoming about your relationship with PC(initially claiming that you were just a random fan), and tell us what you will edit about, as it's unlikely you will be unblocked to continue to edit about PC at least in the short term. 331dot (talk) 13:35, 3 October 2020 (UTC)