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== Your submission at Articles for creation: List of Nobles and Magnates of England in the 13th Century (May 23) ==  Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Sulfurboy was:

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AfC notification: Draft:List of Nobles and Magnates of England in the 13th Century has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:List of Nobles and Magnates of England in the 13th Century. Thanks! -- RoySmith (talk) 20:28, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Arnold II von Isenburg


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Arnold II von Isenburg moved to draftspace
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List of nobles and magnates within Scandinavia in the 13th century moved to draftspace
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Proposed deletion of List of Sealand nobles


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Nomination of List of Sealand nobles for deletion
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Headings at AfD
Please don't using headings to format your messages at Articles for deletion/List of Sealand nobles. They're messing up the structure of the AfD log for the day.

Also, please don't WP:BLUDGEON the process. Or, if you really are going to, at least sign your messages. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 20:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started
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Thank you for creating List of nobles and magnates of England in the 13th century.

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Hey so I dont exactly know what you mean by table with a reference to each person. Are you talking about the tables which list of monarchs use like this one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_monarchs

--Tgec17 (talk) 20:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Sir John de Chudleigh I moved to draftspace
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List of nobles and magnates of France in the 13th century moved to draftspace
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Your draft article, Draft:Arnold II von Isenburg


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Your draft article, Draft:Heinrich I von Finstingen


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Proposed deletion of Walter de Washington


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Your reverted edit on Stop the Steal
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Your draft article, Draft:Sir John de Chudleigh I


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Proposed deletion of Richard Mark Royal


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Merging Philip of the Crozier-men to Philip Simonsson
Hello Tgec! I saw your note Note: As the author I'd like to mark this page for deletion or merging with Philip Simonsson I was unaware of that article until after I wrote this one. I agree a merge would be appropriate; you can do so yourself following the procedure outlined at WP:PROMERGE. Let me know if you have any questions! BenKuykendall (talk) 08:29, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

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Endrid Bookling moved to draftspace
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Endrid Bookling moved to draftspace
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 * Hello, Tgec17,
 * If you want Endrid Bookling in the main space, could you clean it up and make it less likely to be subject to deletion? Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:26, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

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List of nobles and magnates of France in the 13th century
Hi — I noticed you moved List of nobles and magnates of France in the 13th century into the main space past the AfC process (but didn't clean up, so it still sits in the queue), with the comment that it "provides basic info". Yes, it does, but do you think it's otherwise ready for publication? And more specifically, do you plan to add references? Thanks, --DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:12, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, references for a list are not essential for Wikipedia as far as I'm aware, however at some point I probably will add references to provide more contextual information for the list. I'd say there are parts of it more or less which are ready and other parts need work but its better if more people can read and add to it because I don't necessarily have the time to do the entire thing myself. --Tgec17 (talk) 18:15, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


 * so basically no improvement since I sent it to draft last month. We don’t host unsourced material in mainspace, and sources are fundamental for an encyclopaedia article, not just something you might get around to eventually. You don’t need a separate source for every item on a list, but you do need sources to show that that there is some authority for the list as a whole and it’s not just a piece of original research by you. Mccapra (talk) 18:32, 10 September 2021 (UTC)e


 * as far as I'm aware Wikipedia lists don't need sources because they are just lists. But I added a source for Mccapra's sake. --Tgec17 (talk) 20:34, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Well that’s great! Thank you! Except a. Lists do need sources and b. The source you added doesn’t support the article (it’s about Scotland, not France). You’ve clearly done a lot of work on this article and including sources is just “showing your working”. As things stand, we only have your word for it that the nobles and magnates included in your list properly belong there. Do yi7 see the problem? Mccapra (talk) 20:57, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


 * if you look at the source it does support the article in supporting Philip Augustus's styles as king. I'm currently working on the article as we speak, perhaps you should join. After reviewing the guidelines I see that the lead does need to be sited and I will do this soon but it requires more effort then just getting the list done which is currently my priority. --Tgec17 (talk) 21:04, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

List of feudal wars 12th-14th century moved to draftspace
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September 2021
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Speedy deletion nomination of Asolf of Eastairt
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Nobility of Castile?
Hi! Re the message above: what makes you think that this might be a reliable source? There's no author, publisher or ISBN number, and it looks like either someone's self-published WP:OR, or else somebody's translation of an authentic Spanish-language source. Can you show otherwise (happy to be shown I'm wrong – again!)? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:11, 26 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Because it cites primary sources consistently for every entry and even has the quotations in it. Tgec17 (talk) 21:15, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

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Nomination of Rodrigo Álvarez de Asturias for deletion
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Speedy deletion nomination of Alvaro Diaz (nobleman)


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Speedy deletion nomination of Diego Perez Obregon


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April 2023
Please do not attack other editors, as you did at User_talk:Liz. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization <i style="color: #000666;">Talk </i> 04:51, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Comments like are completely unacceptable here.  Please read WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  <i style="color: #000666;">Talk </i> 04:53, 27 April 2023 (UTC)


 * No personal attack was made. It is a productive piece of feedback for that user who had received much similar feedback but seems to refuse to accept it and is in denial. You have absolutely no business commenting on my page because you are not even related to it at all, I wonder what your problem is. --Tgec17 (talk) 05:25, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Referring to "the arrogance and the ignorance of people like you" with regard to another editor is a personal attack. If you do not understand or acknowledge it as such, then it seems that we have a larger problem to address. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization <i style="color: #000666;">Talk </i> 05:30, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Its not a personal attack its an accurate description --Tgec17 (talk) 06:36, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * You are not welcome to post on my talk page any longer if you are going to be insulting. And, at least two other administrators agreed with me with one of your articles being speedy deleted and the other being nominated for deletion at AFD. So, maybe you have an incorrect understanding of notability on Wikipedia and the reliable sourcing necessary to verify this notability. I see you are relatively inexperienced at editing so maybe you should review the relevant Wikipedia policy pages including the one on "no personal attacks". Thank you. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">

Read! Talk! 19:30, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

You are certainly not welcome on my talk page either. Those articles are notable and they will be going back up with citations to the primary sources which they are in. I have plenty of experience as an editor on Wikipedia with over 30 articles. You seem like the only thing you do is try to take other peoples articles down. I honestly think that you would be better served creating your own articles or perhaps giving up this hobby because you are not helping anyone and you only cause problems. --Tgec17 (talk) 21:16, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Alvaro Diaz (nobleman) for deletion
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Count of Kalundborg moved to draftspace
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Pedro Diaz (nobleman) moved to draftspace
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Your draft article, Draft:Earl of Zealand


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Your draft article, Draft:Pedro Álvarez de las Asturias


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