User talk:ThadeusOfNazereth/Archive 2

RE: January 2021
Have you tried asking who is this person? It is this guy (see this page history. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 02:15, 24 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I have not, because I'm not involved. If there are other issues, you should be templating them and reporting them, not reverting, clogging up the page history, and clogging up recent changes. If it's a sockpuppet, there's an established route to take to deal with that. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 02:18, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * So, you are giving a WMF banned editor a chance to explain themselves. You said it, you are not involved. You don't know who is this guy, you don't know the Wikihounding they are doing right now, and you don't know the long-term abuse this user has performed. What happened at Invincible is just a fraction of what this user has done, but if you want to give them the chance, please, feel free to explain this new proxy why their behavior is inappropriate. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 02:23, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , I very obviously didn't. The only thing I saw was you and another user reverting each other with no edit summaries. You're being extremely aggressive at the moment, and I'm going to ask you to not comment on my talk page again until you calm down. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 02:25, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Point La Vista Cape (Jacksonville) - Newly Published Starter Article
1. I would like to have our article tagged in "Wiki Project Florida". Might you help? 2. Re: Needed additional citations...is there an Editor process which flags unverifiable Citations or References? My sources are: 19th Century government surveyor Township Maps for Duval County, other city maps, Deeds and Plats from local Title companies or Duval County Clerk of Courts and a bibliography of published articles and books.

Thanks "ThadeusOfNazereth" for your attention to our article. We believe it makes a nice addition to the "Neighborhoods of Jacksonville" Wiki article which also features "Riverside and Avondale, Arlington and San Marco (Jacksonville") among other sections of Jacksonville, Florida. (In case you didn't know, Jacksonville is the largest city in the USA since it covers the whole county called Duval). PointLaVista (talk) 20:56, 26 January 2021 (UTC)Point La Vista
 * Howdy! I added the WP:Wikiproject Florida tag to the talk page, so it should be listed there soon. For citations, it's usually a longer process. You have the references, which all appear good, so the two things I would recommend are A) add more inline citations (you can see how to do this at WP:INLINE and B) add more accessible references. By accessible references, I mean ones that can be accessed and verified by other editors. I don't doubt that you have access to the books and articles you cite, but adding links to their Google Books page or copies that are available on the Internet Archive would go a long way.


 * Oftentimes, the citation needed template will stay there for several months before somebody who volunteers in that area happens upon your article. As long as y'all keep making the quality improvements you have been, I don't think there will be any problems. You can also reach out to the editor who added the template to see if they have more specific feedback. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 21:38, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

I will have to find the Editor who did the Template. Thanks again... very helpful. PointLaVista (talk) 02:15, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

User - Tartan357 is illegally changing and tagging Aung San Suu Kyi as Former State Counsellor of Myanmar in Aung San Suu Kyi wiki page
Here is his message to me.

I'm Tartan357. Your recent edit(s) to the page Aung San Suu Kyi appear to have added incorrect information, so they have been removed for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you.

Could you kindly help to monitor this user - He is definitely from Burma Military — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zhong ST (talk • contribs) 23:35, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , Wikipedia is not a vehicle for you to spread disinformation. You know as well as I do that Aung San Suu Kyi is no longer in office. You've now reverted past my warning, so I expect you will be blocked soon. ―  Tartan357  Talk 00:12, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , Wikipedia is a conglomerate of what reliable sources say. For us, it isn't a question of whether Aung San Suu Kyi should be in power, it's a question of if she actually is. Her arrest has been condemned by the international community (which is reflected in the section discussing her arrest and the coup) and while you and I can agree that she is surely the rightful leader of Myanmar, the reality of the situation is that she is no longer in charge. I hope that you are safe, and I want you to know that there are millions of people around the world who support you and your people's struggle for freedom. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 00:51, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you ThadeusOfNazereth
Appreciate your kind words towards me and my fellow people in Burma who are struggling for their own life and wellbeing.

We can't say thank you enough for the people around the world supporting us going through each day and witness our many many years of sufferings.

I was just trying to do the right thing.

Thank you @ThadeusOfNazereth — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zhong ST (talk • contribs) 01:08, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

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Draft:Honghao Deng
Hello, I hope you are doing well.

I am leaving this message here because you reviewed and commented my draft a couple of months ago, I think I have addressed the issue that you commented about the coverage and expanded the draft a bit. It is still a bit short but I think is ready to be re-reviewed and I have sent the AfC again. Could you take a look to the new references? I appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks.JavTehran (talk) 01:17, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Apologies
I am sorry for being uncivil and spamming your talk page. I am now calm. Sorry, I just have bad anxiety and get panicked very easily. I’ll leave you alone now. Epictrex (talk) 06:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Point La Vista Cape (Jacksonville) - Newly Published Starter Article
Thaddeus: You classified Point La Vista Cape as a starter article in January with a need for more citations. We updated and added Citations. I do not understand the reclassification as an "orphan article" by Editors Gronk Oz and AnomieBOT. It is indeed the first in-depth study of this geographically distinct neighborhood in the city of Jacksonville FL. Prior to this it was buried in "Southside". The references have no errors of which we are aware. The content and citations have been reviewed. What do you make of this? Please advise. PointLaVista (talk) 21:58, 8 April 2021 (UTC)Point La Vista


 * An orphan article is an article that isn't linked to by any other article - That just lets people know to be on the lookout for articles that could link to. Orphan articles have much lower readership because they can only be found by searching for the subject specifically, instead of stumbling across it when reading about a related topic. I'll take a look and see where links might be able to be added! ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 20:37, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Thadeus. Your help is always appreciated. PointLaVista (talk) 01:34, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

IRAN
Iran is not Persia. Persia is just a state of Iran and it is part of Iran not whole. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Səlmanöğlu (talk • contribs) 16:41, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It's the position of the Iranian government and reliable sources that the names can be used interchangeably. Wikipedia isn't a venue for personal opinions on whether the correct name should be Persia or Iran, and I don't have an opinion either way because I am neither Persian or Iranian. We report what reliable sources say. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 16:46, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * No need to bother, see . --HistoryofIran (talk) 16:59, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Epictrex
See the whole section, at their talk, and then some of the diffs for the deleted stuff from their talk. I've tried to be helpful with them, but at some point they need to help themselves. I get the feeling they are either very young or older than the internet revolution, and WP:CIR may be a consideration. As I mentioned to them, I'm about to become very busy IRL very soon, and until sometime in August, so I wont be here much. If they do not begin to grok some stuff soon, other editors may not be as patient with them as I have tried to be. If you want to help them out, feel free.  He  iro  03:56, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Like I said in my self-revert, I should've checked his talk page before jumping to a conclusion. I did read over everything you put, and I'm pretty confident they've got the gist from the help you gave them there - If there's still issues, it'll be on them. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 04:05, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * , please don't spam my talk page and please don't be uncivil. I haven't been rude to you in the slightest (indeed, I haven't talked to you at all until now) and has been helpful and answered your questions (something you acknowledged in this edit ). ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 04:23, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Oh really? Saying “tried to be patient with them” is helpful? Also you said “it will be be on them”? Do you guys not know the at I’m new to this site and I’m trying to figure out how to properly edit on here? It’s really complicated at first. And don’t falsely accuse me of “spamming your page”!!! I only sent one thing (two if you include this too)!Epictrex (talk) 04:26, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Every edit you make sends me a ping. If you look at this page's history here, you can see that each message you've left has been multiple edits from you (and so multiple pings). I am very aware that you're new to the site - Actually, everyone in this "conversation" has acknowledged this multiple times. You're still being uncivil, and I'm going to politely ask you to please not comment on my talk page again until you're calmer. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 04:38, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Wdym uncivil? And sorry, I misspoke, and sorry that I was uncivil. But why do you have to be so rude (Please don’t say you weren’t) Epictrex (talk) 04:45, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Something new
Remember this IP from a few days ago that was almost certainly EPICTREX logged out? And this new IP you just reverted a bit ago? The IP added the material back, and then Epitrex logs in to remove it. Guess where both IPs geolocate to? The exact same place, Sparks, Nevada. So does this IP. Epictrex is having an editwar on History of Nevada with either himself or some meatpuppets between his named accout and 2 IPs.  He  iro  23:17, 15 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Good catch - It may be worth opening an investigation at WP:SPI if problems continue (although given that it's escalated to edits much closer to vandalism, it might be good to get ahead of it at SPI. I'm not 100% sure how that process works, however). Either way, I added that article to my watchlist + will keep an eye on contributions from those IPs and accounts. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 23:35, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm putting together an ANI report. I think the quaking is so loud an SPI is probably not needed. Still putting together diffs at the moment.  He  iro  23:39, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Sounds good - I will keep an eye out and leave a statement once it's up. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 23:39, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.  He  iro  23:50, 15 April 2021 (UTC) t

IP addresses
Hi! Those IP addresses are not from me. The fact that they’re both from a town called Sparks in Nevada is purely coincidental. I haven’t been in my Wikipedia account until today. I was just looking through Wikipedia and decided I wanted to check out the “History of Nevada” page when I saw a weird edit about Mayans in Nevada. Because there is no evidence of such a claim, and because no sources were cited, I undid their edit. I do not believe that the Mayans were in Nevada. Epictrex (talk) 00:44, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * You "just happened" to log in and check that article a minute after it was vandalized with content similar to things that coincidentally you yourself have posted in other articles. Edits are time stamped. But it's not just that those 2 IPS geolocate to Sparks Nevada, so does the one you used to vandalize Thadeus and my talk page on the 11th. Do you know what the odds are that all of that is a massive coincidence? If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, you know what? It's not a turtle, mate. It's a duck.  He  iro  01:18, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

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re: your close of The Federalist
Hi, ThadeusOfNazereth - I've been reviewing the comments accompanying the iVotes at the RfC, and a substantial number of the ivotes to downgrade include either misinformation, or misinterpretation of facts vs opinion, or favor a partisan view; quite a few simply mirror others. I can present examples, beginning with the misinterpretation of the very 1st iVote. Of course, I'm not perfect, so it's quite possible that I may have misinterpreted something that you may be able to shed some light on for me. Are you open to discussion?  Atsme 💬 📧 17:01, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'm open to that for sure, and I'd definitely rather see if we can't figure it out here instead of going straight to WP:ANI. To clarify, your argument would be that the RFC should have been closed at Option 2 or Option 1, correct? ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 18:11, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't know - I'd like for us to have a meeting of the minds, and see what happens. I'm never steadfast unless I'm absolutely sure, and that isn't the case right now. So let's start with the 1st iVote, and my perception of what took place from there to the 6th iVote.
 * It started out being based primarily on this source. Key indicators to me when determining opinion vs fact is context beginning with As of this writing, it appears that.... The author is telling his readers right then and there that it may not be so BUT it appears to be, which is opinion and he qualifies with "As of this writing" so it's a dated opinion that tells readers it could change. His conclusion is also qualified in a similar manner. What was presented in the iVote was taken out of context and presented as fact: ...the only possible conclusion one can come to right now is that Democrats are trying to steal the election in the Midwest. In context we see that comment prepended by the following (my bold underline):  Unless election officials in Michigan and Wisconsin can explain  the overnight vote-dumps and, in Michigan, the “typo” that appeared to benefit Biden, and Pennsylvania officials can explain their rationale for counting ballots with no postmark,... which makes it a qualified opinion. The author's comments simply raised suspicion about perceived improprieties in the election but that's just good reporting. He simply laid out what he felt was concerning and worthy of mention, and left it to his readers to decide. That is normal and even expected in any election if we are to ensure election integrity. That is not false reporting or bad reporting. The next 4 iVotes are simply opinions with nothing to support them. The 6th iVote alleges falsehoods and attempts to discredit the source  by including an incident involving its co-founder. The argument also wikilinks to a WP article (which is an unreliable source), adds a New Yorker link because they changed "COVID-19" to "the Wuhan virus". When we read the left-leaning NYorker article we see a partisan POV, and unqualified opinions about COVID at a time when few scientists/doctors/researchers even knew a great deal about it themselves, and they're still uncovering new information. That isn't a reason to downgrade the source. I'm of the mind that no news source should be trusted with health/medical information and that applies across the board; science/medicine and the like should be cited per WP:MEDRS. My perception of the iVotes is that they are a split down a partisan line with nothing of substance to warrant downgrading the publication. I'll stop there, and give you a chance to respond.  Atsme  💬 📧 19:16, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I read the discussion at the time and again after your first post here to refresh my memory of that back-and-forth, because a lot of the arguments on the "keep" side were predicated on what constitutes a statement of fact. You're right that "it appears that" can serve as a qualifier, making the rest of the article opinion. In this case, though, there are a couple issues with that: First, it's in direct contrast with the title of the article, "Yes, Democrats Are Trying To Steal The Election In Michigan, Wisconsin, And Pennsylvania", which is a clear statement of fact. Second, there's no distinction that any of this is explicitly opinion writing - As noted several times in the discussion, The Federalist seems to exist solely as a mouthpiece for political opinions, and yet that's not clarified anywhere on the website. Same goes for the conclusion: Yes, there's a qualifier that "Unless election officials in Michigan and Wisconsin can explain," but this only comes after 800 words of arguing that election fraud has indisputably been taking place, found out only by the courageous Twitter followers of another Federalist writer.
 * The next four iVotes aren't great, but they're still explaining their reasoning. My assumption when reviewing these is that they're indicating agreement with the nominator's analysis, and as far as I'm aware voters are not required to craft their own unique arguments if somebody else has said something they agree with 100%. For the sixth iVote, I didn't take into account the allegation against the co-founder since it didn't seem relevant to the discussion at hand, but their point about COVID-19 misinformation and the explicitly partisan editing of articles to be more provocative were both validly explained reasons for their vote. On the COVID-19 misinformation point, you're right that news sources shouldn't be trusted with medical information over other sources, however, in establishing the reliability of a point the type of medical information they prioritize is worth consideration (For example, their publication of an article by an unlicensed dermatologist advocating for infection parties). If the New Yorker was an explicitly partisan source, your comment about it might have merit, but the big difference here is that WP:RSP considers it "generally reliable...Editors note the publication's robust fact-checking process."
 * At the end of the day, however, I based my decision off consensus, and the consensus to downgrade The Federalist was overwhelming. I didn't think there were any policy violations in the votes at the time, and my opinion on that hasn't changed. As it stands, almost everything you've said here was said in the discussion, and was unconvincing to the other editors taking part. You're more than welcome to request closure review at WP:ANI (the last thing I want is there to be a sour taste left in anybody's mouth), but I don't think it would end up going anywhere. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 19:58, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your input, ThadeusOfNazereth. Following are my final thoughts:
 * WP:Headlines - the headline is a clickbait headline, not a clear statement of fact. It was further qualified in the article as opinion; therefore, thinking that the body text is not opinion because it is "in direct contrast with the title of the article" should not have factored into your close at all. We don't give any weight to headlines or subheadlines, especially by political analysts/editors. We also shouldn't be eliminating entire sources because an author expressed doubt, asked questions and wanted answers about some of the inconsistencies of an election. We wouldn't have any sources left if we did that across the board.
 * "Second, there's no distinction that any of this is explicitly opinion writing" - the author is a political editor, which means he writes political analysis; his job description, along with context and content of his articles are the distinctions, and you should already be aware of that if you're closing discussions about controversial political sources. Political editors are not investigative reporters, news journalists, news anchors, or correspondents - there's a big difference between all of them. I think your evaluation of the author's writing is incorrect.
 * Guy must not have seen this introduction, or this list of contributors. I'd be inclined to call it a "conservative platform" funded by subscriptions, a splash of clickbait, and advertising which is how most online media is funded today. The site states they are "a wholly independent division of FDRLST Media, LLC. I can only guess that Guy must have been looking for information based on the old-fashioned business model of print media which is slowly being replaced by decentralized online networks and independent websites. The credibility of The Federalist's articles should probably depend more on the credentials of the individual contributors. In this case, Davidson's writings have been published by WSJ, The Guardian, National Review, and Texas Monthly, among others.
 * As for the 4 other iVotes, expressing one's opinion about a source without evidence to support that opinion is kinda like an aspersion isn't it? If I'm closing, I'd want to see some strong evidence that supports each criticism because we're talking about downgraded an entire source, and it would be sad if the reason for doing so is based on an IDONTLIKEIT partisan consensus. Here's an article I highly recommend reading because it speaks to consensus (when there, use your Find feature, keyword search "hegemony").
 * Re: The New Yorker - you said WP:RSP considers it "generally reliable...Editors note the publication's robust fact-checking process." - the same way The Federalist was considered unreliable? First of all, WP:RSP is not above essay status - it doesn't even have guideline status and for good reason. The RSP process was begun by a couple of editors, and it has not been vetted by the wider community. Also keep in mind that WP:RS is a guideline, not a policy. Many of the ratings at RSP are were decided despite limited participation at the RSN discussions, some of which were the result of requests for the inclusion of specific material. Some of the results could be considered rather partisan in nature. IOW, it is a flawed system but we're using it for lack of something better.
 * ...the consensus to downgrade The Federalist was overwhelming. - I would agree if we were counting iVotes.
 * With all due respect, I think you did your best but got in a little over your head with this RfC. I would think that a caution rating for The Federalist is appropriate with a note that reliability is best determined by the credibility of the author of a particular article, so author & context matters most. The admins at AN may very well uphold your position but I think it's in our best interests to ask for a review because of the nature of that source, and what appears to be a split down partisan lines resulting from unsupported criticism, as I pointed out above. Not all iVotes were politically motivated because quite a few of us are actually die-hard pragmatists. Let's hope a pragmatic administrator can find the time to conduct a review. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me, and for being such a good sport about it. Happy editing!!  Atsme 💬 📧 22:37, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I came by to say thank you, and that I'm glad it worked out in your favor. You have earned my respect and trust in your judgment; therefore, my thanks to you comes with the utmost sincerity.  Atsme 💬 📧 22:24, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that! I'm not a fan of the way some of the people at WP:AN jumped to bad-faith accusations, and I did appreciate your point-of-view, especially the linking to some policies that I still wasn't totally familiar with like WP:HEADLINES. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 23:46, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Your close was spot on, IMO. It is unfortunate that some editors cannot see beyond the seductive appeal of false balance. The opposite of mainstream is not conservative, the opposite of mainstream is fringe, and when site position themselves squarely in opposition to the mainstream, that puts them equally squarely in the fringe. The fact that the right in America increasingly adopts a completely counterfactual narrative on current events is a problem for Wikipedia, but we don't fix it by treating obvious bad faith argument as equivalent to reality. Guy (help! - typo?) 18:37, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!
 Happy Birthday! Have a very happy birthday on your special day!

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Talk:Phthonus
Hi! I've started a discussion on Talk:Phthonus regarding the SCP Foundation editing dispute that's been going on, and wanted to notify you since you've done lots of editing there and your opinion is valuable. casualdejekyll (talk) 16:08, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

AfD
Hello! Just a heads up, it seems that your comment about Terry Cooke has fallen off its allotted portion in Articles_for_deletion/Log/2021_November_1. It seems to have drifted off next Ian Marsh's AfD. Could you take a look at it? Not sure why this happened in the first place. Cheers! Pilaz (talk) 00:16, 2 November 2021 (UTC)


 * @Pilaz Oh dear, I see that too. I have no clue how that happened either. There was a problem when I nominated the page for deletion using the Page Curation Tool - I probably should've reset Cooke's page and tried re-nominating it. I also can't figure out how to delete it - It's not showing up on the AFD page for Ian Marsh or Roman Packo, and it also doesn't show up if I try to edit the source manually. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 00:36, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * nevermind, spoke to soon - Somehow the page got created without the header, but it still exists. I went into my contributions and requested speedy deletion as somebody has already deleted the article I intended to nominate. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 00:38, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for sorting it out! Pilaz (talk) 09:27, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Nikos Floros
Hello, thank you for your suggestions of Nikos Floros article, but i would like to say that this article is no orphan. It has several articles linked to it. As far as the "This article may require copy editing for grammar, style, cohesion, tone, or spelling" suggestion, can you point out to me which parts need improvement? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matrixd21 (talk • contribs) 10:43, 3 November 2021 (UTC)


 * No problem - I actually wasn't the reviewer who added the orphan tag, but I should've removed it as part of my review - Sorry about that! I went ahead and removed it (and feel free to remove templates like that yourself if you believe you've met the requirement). As for copy-editing, when I left it I was referring to some odd spacing, which I went ahead and fixed just now as well. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 13:12, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank You
Hi Thadeus, I appreciate your feedback on my upload. I just want to say thank you for providing some accurate comment guidelines when I was writing this and I am hopeful to resubmit with better sources in the future. I'm learning my ways by reading more help articles in Wikipedia. Thank you again for your honesty and support. I read more about your bio and would love to know about what you have learned during your time as a veteran provider/editor, I also am pursuing the most efficient method of compilation and preservation of all human knowledge.

Best, Tristan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.24.246.54 (talk) 01:43, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi Tristan, I'm really glad to hear you appreciated my feedback :). Really, everything I've learned has been because of other editors giving me feedback! The number one lesson for me has been to always try and take something positive out of any criticism - Even though some veteran editors can come off as blunt or harsh, they're almost always here for exactly the same reasons we are. You commented as an IP and not an account, so I'm not sure what article you're referring to specifically, but if you let me know I'm more than happy to take a closer look and maybe help you out with sourcing if its something I've got background in. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 09:24, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

RE: Draft:Snthesis, Inc
You've had this draft marked as under-review for nearly 2 weeks. Curbon7 (talk) 09:38, 15 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know - It must've been during one of my late-night editing sessions. That's been rectified now! ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 12:07, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Re: Draft:Dale Underwood
Hello! I just wanted to thank you for the feedback on my first submission. I was able to add URL's as you suggested, which I think strengthens it. I just wish there was full text available online for one one them! Be well. 21:19, 19 November 2021 (UTC)Hastyj (talk) 21:21, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Independent sources
Can I use the podcast interview with myself by Leo Adley which is widely available at no charge as an independent source? Kind regards Lucysj (talk) 20:34, 22 November 2021 (UTC)


 * @Lucysj You absolutely can use an interview, but I will note that because interviews come (at least halfway) from the person being interviewed, some editors won't use them to show notability. I'd also note that if you're saying that you are Ellis Johnson, the subject of the article, you'll need to disclose that on your userpage with the template found here: Template:UserBoxCOI. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 20:38, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Appreciate your help! Lucysj (talk) 20:40, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Redeemer University
Hi, I was looking at the New Pages feed and saw the article on Redeemer University which you have marked as reviewed. As the article is a cut and paste from Redeemer University College, shouldn't this be reversed and the older article moved to the new title, per New pages patrol? TSventon (talk) 00:54, 16 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Good catch - Yes, that's what should be done. I think it may be time for me to go to bed, I should've caught that right away from Shannon's first edit summary. I'll take care of that right now :) ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 00:58, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you to you and your colleagues for the work you are putting in to reducing the backlog, by the way. TSventon (talk) 01:17, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I have boldly changed the guidance on addressing cut-and-paste moves to say that hijacked pages do not need to be deleted. TSventon (talk) 13:18, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The Redeemer University College article has now been moved. I am generally happy to boldly move college articles in straightforward cases like this, but used RM in this case as there had been a previous unsuccessful RM. If a move is uncontroversial but blocked by an existing page, Requested moves/Technical requests can be used. TSventon (talk) 11:18, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

dr omg
a user with sources — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.223.170.71 (talk) 03:52, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Recently declined submission -
Hey ThadeusOfNazereth,

Hope you're doing well today! You just very recently, declined submission of a wiki I submitted:

I totally understand and believe your response was rightful. I am rigorously creating this for a notable internet personality / esports professional in the "gaming space". All information was provided in collation to the persons agency and said person themselves - can verify through them, everything provided is both subjectively relevant & accurate.

Would appreciate if you could help me out here and let me know what exactly is missing (how I can improve this draft and have this hopefully accepted). Would be awesome, thank you!

''Kind regards, --Jacob M Pérez (talk) 21:34, 2 December 2021 (UTC)''


 * Hi @Jacob M Pérez - Thanks for reaching out! The number one thing I can recommend is that you read WP:BIO and WP:RS, which explain how we determine an article subject's notability and how we determine whether a source is acceptable. Generally, sources need to be secondary, independent, and reliable if they're going to be used to determine someone's notability.
 * I'll do a breakdown of the sources in the article here for you. The Youtube Wiki isn't acceptable because its a wiki and so its user-generated. Team Singularity, CarterPulse, Apex Gaming PCs, and KNG are primary and non-independent. Same goes for Fxtch's YouTube channel and Twitter account. The Nicholas Chamberlain School appears to be a self-published blog. From what I can tell, the only source that clearly meets all the criteria is The Loadout. SocialBlade is good as well, but it doesn't prove notability, just a fact about somebody.
 * I'll let you know too that right now, writing about people in the influencer/streamer/esports space is really weird because while many of them *are* notable, traditional media outlets still avoid covering them, making it difficult to write articles about them. We recently had really contentious deletion discussions about Dream (YouTuber), Tubbo, and Jaiden Animations. I don't have a lot of expertise when it comes to writing articles in this area, so I can't help with finding sources, but I hope that this gives you a decent idea of how to direct your research. If you need other help with it, you can go to WP:AFCHD where other editors can give input as well. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 00:06, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Perfect! Thank you very much for the time & help, ThadeusOfNazereth. Will try my best to make all the changes I can :)

Wishing you all the best Jacob M Pérez (talk) 05:39, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your participation in the November 2021 New Pages Patrol drive
Thank you for reviewing or re-reviewing 139 articles, which helped contribute to an overall 1276-article reduction in the backlog during the drive. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  12:27, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

hi, from the Spooky comment
Hi there, It was the first time I tried a whole page - would it a better plan to update the Spooky page in the "simple Wikipedia" vs a new one? Also I picked citations that were actually press articles etc, so not sure how to "fix that" to be better, can you advise. So APPRECIATE!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrewgoldsongs (talk • contribs) 22:25, 4 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi @Andrewgoldsongs - It's fine to use the AFC process! I was referring to the fact that we have a page called Spooky scary skeletons already, it just redirects to the article for Andrew Gold. If your article is accepted, somebody will just change that page to direct to the page for the song instead. The sources themselves are mostly fine, the problem is that they're just external links. If you look at the article for Andrew Gold, you see how the sources appear at the bottom in a list as well? If you use Template:Cite Web, it'll let you create those. You can do that by pressing the "Cite" button on the top bar when you're editing the article. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 22:35, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello
Hello — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nidamour (talk • contribs) 05:05, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Question about AfC rejection
Hello, ThadeusOfNazereth! I have received your comment about the draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Erythrina_Alkaloids few days ago. I am wondering if you can be more specific about the reason declining the page. I am a first year graduate student, and this page is the project of our biochemistry course. If you can point out the problems, surely I will improve it. I appreciate your contribution and hope we can have a good page! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Checkmaters (talk • contribs) 14:10, 13 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi @Checkmaters - I will take another look later tonight. I'm also a first year graduate student, and we're hitting exam season this week so I don't have as much time as I usually do. From what I recall, I was concerned that a lot of the tone was closer to something from an essay/journal article than what we'd consider "encyclopedic tone," but when I look I can hopefully clear some of that up. As an aside, is this a project for a class that's sanctioned by WP:WIKIED, or is it an independent assignment by your professor? ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 14:33, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the understanding. The project is done independently. Everyone in the class has to choose their own topic to write. I was supposed to contact you soon, but for the same reason as yours, I just finished the exams and had time to work on the issue. For the question you have mentioned, indeed it is. At that time I was thinking that it was like writing a review. I'll see ways to improve it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Checkmaters (talk • contribs) 14:41, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Teahouse host - belated welcome
Dear ThadeusOfNazereth, Thank you for volunteering as a Host at the Teahouse. Wikipedia is a community of people working together to make knowledge free. You are an important part of that effort! By joining as a Host, and by following our expectations, you are helping new users to get started here at Wikipedia, and aiding more experienced users who just have a question about how something works. We appreciate your willingness to help!

Here are some links you may find helpful as a Host: Editors who have signed up as hosts, but who have not contributed at the Teahouse for six months or so may be removed from the list of hosts.
 * Useful scripts you can install to make responding easier,
 * templates to use and, of course:
 * the question forum itself.

Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 01:28, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

WP:AFC Helper News
Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest. Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
 * The template db-afc-move has been created - this template is similar to db-move when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.

Features for new users coming soon (and mentors, like you, wanted!)
Hello. As you're listed as a host at the Teahouse, I wanted to make sure you're aware of the imminent rollout of new Growth  Team Features which every new account will be getting by default. Each users will soon see a new 'Homepage' tab next to their User  page. It contains two main elements which might impact on your involvement - and you'd be welcome to get  involved and help out directly with one of them. To spread the load on our current list of around 65 mentors, I'm reaching out to ask if you'd like to help out and sign up as one? The workload is relatively small; User  reports receiving four questions a month, on average, all of  which were simple ones of the type we already get at the Teahouse, whilst I've had just one in the last 3 weeks. To view a list of every question asked of all mentors over the last 14 days,  click here. If becoming a mentor and being available to help new users on their first few days here interests you - just as have done at the Teahouse in the past - then please consider signing up at Growth Team  features/Mentor list. But please only do so if you are genuinely willing to be available to help. Existing users can already 'opt-in' to seeing the Newcomer Homepage features via their  Preferences.
 * Firstly, they will be offered a range of 'suggested edits', and encouraged to make simple improvements to pages that interest them. (Being  aware of this feature would be helpful for all Teahouse hosts if you're  likely to offer advice on tasks for them to start out doing.)
 * There's also a 'Your impact' box to show them how many people have seen the pages they've just edited.
 * Finally, each new user is randomly assigned a 'mentor' from a list of friendly, experienced editors, like yourself. If they get stuck, they can  ask a question directly to them via a Your mentor box, and hopefully get a swift, friendly answer from that mentor.   Currently, this feature is given to 2% of new users, but it's set to  increase to around 10% in the very near future.

BTW: Following our 'Train the Trainers' course, you might also like to be aware that we do also maintain a separate mentor list for those who only want to assign only a particular, named user as a mentee. It could be relevant for those running courses of the type we've been preparing for.(There's a list to it from the main mentor sign-up page) Regards Nick Moyes (talk) 15:31, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Chaos Magic page numbers
This may aid you in your quest: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1GNyBPpkG9DTXGUxVPGjvEmC4PDp6Aeb7 DougCavendish (talk) 00:33, 7 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Doug! I was able to find some stuff on Google Books but it's hard to establish context with that search, so this should be very helpful. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 01:48, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

1823 Alabama gubernatorial election
Hi! Thanks for your edit to 1823 Alabama gubernatorial election - the table is a great addition! There were a few errors in your edit though, so make sure you double check what you've done before you publish (especially on particularly large edits). Happy editing, Gazamp (talk) 00:19, 20 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Gazamp - While I appreciate you correcting the "NAME" issues (that's what I get for editing in long sessions), I have to disagree with you on the other two points. I removed OurCampaigns because it's been characterized as unreliable and is listed at WP:RSP. In this case it did not contain any information not listed in the other two sources and its linked data source is a dead link. As for the categorization of Pickens as a National Republican, I see that OurCampaigns lists him as that, but Dubin categorizes him as a Democratic Republican in this election. This page on him even categorizes him as "Jacksonian" in the side-bar. Is there a better source for Pickens being a National Republican? ThadeusOfNazereth(he/they)Talk to Me! 00:39, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * And on further review, Dubin actually has slightly different vote totals from both OurCampaigns and Tufts. Dubin should be preferred here, but I'll wait for your response before editing again. I also see you added OurCampaigns back to the 1819 election page. I disagree with this, same reasons as above (although I do agree with you about shading, I was on the fence about it myself). ThadeusOfNazereth(he/they)Talk to Me! 00:43, 20 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for your quick response - I didn't realise OurCampaigns had been deprecated, so thanks for letting me know. I've removed all the references I restored and I'll defer to you on how to categorise Pickens seeing as you're much more up to speed on the references than I am - for conflicting references, I often just use a note to explain who thinks what. If he's also a National Republican, then the shading doesn't really help any so may as well be removed altogether. If there's anything I can help with, let me know. Thanks, Gazamp (talk) 20:13, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's been deprecated, just categorized as unreliable. I think it's still fine for external links. Reference notes is a good idea for conflicting results! ThadeusOfNazereth(he/they)Talk to Me! 21:14, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently Special:ListUsers/patroller New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing on their talk page.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.

To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here. Sent 05:18, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Your friend
The best advice I can give you is to continue to follow WP:RBI. I can semi-protect your talk page but that won't stop the harassment happening elsewhere. In my experience, they usually get bored eventually. Best, HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts? 10:17, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.
 * Backlog status

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.
 * Backlog drive

Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.
 * TIP – New school articles

There is a new template available,, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:
 * Misc

There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.


 * Reminders
 * Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
 * If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, suggest they help the effort by placing on their talk page.
 * If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.
 * To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here.
 * Notes

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:02, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!
(t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:26, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

The Old New Land
The summary of your 2 July change says "Changing short description from "Utopian novel" to "1902 novel" but the text still has "utopian novel". Mcljlm (talk) 21:28, 3 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that's fine. The short description doesn't need to be copy/pasted from the article text. I've been going through the sci-fi novels category updating anything that doesn't at least have the year and author to a standard "[YEAR] novel by [AUTHOR]" format, following the suggestions at WP:SDEXAMPLES and WP:SDDATES. You're welcome to re-insert the word utopian after 1902, but it's not strictly necessary. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/they)Talk to Me! 23:30, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Transgender genocide
Hi. Thanks for your help with citations. I'm expanding the material to a new article. I'm wondering if you might assist with the citations again, see my sandbox. Also, will I be messing things up if it's not a "move" of content to the new article? ProfGray (talk) 14:30, 5 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Logging that I've seen this message and will take a look tomorrow when I've got time! Creating an article is fine, and you can always link to an expanded article from the genocide article using Template:Main Article. I'm working on my master's dissertation right now on how the Genocide Convention has failed to protect against gender-based violence, so I've got my own library of sources and am willing to help contribute if you're alright with me editing in your sandbox as well - Or you can create a draft article under your proposed title instead, which would be even more open for contributors! Either way, this is a really important topic and I'm happy to help. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/they)Talk to Me! 14:59, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * - Adding a ping because the reply tool is buggy, sorry if this is a double notification! ThadeusOfNazereth(he/they)Talk to Me! 15:47, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * @ThadeusOfNazereth -- wow, terrific to hear about your dissertation. I'll probably create the article today and leave it to you and others to improve tomorrow and beyond. I'm sorry that some of the citations will have to be redone. ProfGray (talk) 16:47, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm actually updating the citations now if you're alright with holding off about fifteen minutes! ThadeusOfNazereth(he/they)Talk to Me! 16:52, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * sorry, I didn't see your message, hope it didn't waste too much of your time. thanks again and also for improving it so rapidly ProfGray (talk) 21:21, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * If you’re still on break, that’s great. If not, you might check out User:ProfGray/Transgender Genocide draft because I have new sources and im happy to give you access to a Zotero collection. ProfGray (talk) 10:32, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! My editing is a bit sporadic but I bookmarked that list of sources - Can you send me an email about the Zotero collection? You can use "email this user" in the sidebar :) ThadeusOfNazereth(he/they)Talk to Me! 10:43, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * done! for easy reference, this is the link:
 * https://www.zotero.org/groups/4738771/transgender_genocide_and_violence
 * it should allow some level of public viewing, but only release pdfs to those who join the group via Zotero (and my approval) ProfGray (talk) 13:15, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * added you to Zotero (please do not delete content without discussing it with me) ProfGray (talk) 16:38, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022
Hello ,

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators and, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.
 * Backlog status

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.


 * Coordination: and  have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out.  will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.


 * Open letter to the WMF: The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.


 * TIP - Reviewing by subject: Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages by their most familiar subjects can do so from the regularly updated sorted topic list.


 * New reviewers: The NPP School is being underused. The learning curve for NPP is quite steep, but a detailed and easy-to-read tutorial exists, and the Curation Tool's many features are fully described and illustrated on the updated page here.


 * Reminders
 * Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
 * If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, suggest they help the effort by placing on their talk page.
 * If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.
 * To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here.

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NPP message
Hi ,

For those who may have missed it in our last newsletter, here's a quick reminder to see the letter we have drafted, and if you support it, do please go ahead and sign it. If you already signed, thanks. Also, if you haven't noticed, the backlog has been trending up lately; all reviews are greatly appreciated.
 * Invitation

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MS Diagnosis Page
Hi ThadeusOfNazereth,

I think there are some real issues with the MS Diagnosis page if you read the intro section (a lot of errors) and the overview (same content, but written more objectively). How do you propose we clean up the page? Happy to help!

  SciJournalistNZ (talk) 21:08, 14 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, I don't have a specific cleanup proposal - I don't have any topic-specific knowledge and don't generally do copy-editing outside of my interest areas. My reason for reversion was that the article needs an intro paragraph - That's pretty much iron-clad wiki policy. If you think the overview section covers the same information in an objective way, you're probably fine to WP:BEBOLD and move that section to the lead and replace the text that's currently there. That'll probably suffice until you or somebody else can do a full lead rewrite (WP:CREATELEAD might have some useful tips, although it's mostly talking about the leads for event articles). For formatting's sake, though, the article should open with text at the top, above the table of contents. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/they)Talk to Me! 21:14, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Baptist Church of Christ
Actually, based on these sources, I was leaning merge to General Association of Baptists. But of course that can be a separate action - thanks for withdrawing. (And for introducing me to a slice of church history I wasn't familiar with!) StAnselm (talk) 04:56, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * If you think that'll work best I'm fine with deferring to you since I figure you've got more experience in the area than I do! I'm happy to work on doing that, though, if you've got other stuff you'd rather work on - Just let me know. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/they)Talk to Me! 04:58, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

DYK for House of Awakened Culture
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive
(t &#183; c)  buidhe  21:17, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you reviewed
Hello, ThadeusOfNazereth. Thank you for creating Drawbar eye. User:MB, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with. Please remember to sign your reply with ~. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

MB 19:03, 29 September 2022 (UTC)


 * I was under the impression that as long as the page has been properly tagged it should be marked as reviewed to drop it from the queue. Does that not apply for notability issues specifically? If so, where is that dictated? ThadeusOfNazereth(he/they)Talk to Me! 19:27, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @ThadeusOfNazereth, See New_pages_patrol. No, if the subject is not notable, the article should be moved to draft, redirected, merged, CSDed, AFDed, PRODed, as appropriate. Tagging is for issues that can be addressed, like better sourcing on a notable topic. In this case, I had tagged it for Merging and that had consensus, it just hadn't been completed yet. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 19:43, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Understood, that's good to know. I'm still getting back into the swing of NPP, it's been a while since I've done it regularly. Thank you! ThadeusOfNazereth(he/they)Talk to Me! 20:50, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * One of the biggest issues facing NPP is that it is hard to determine notability, especially when there are sources in the article but they are paywalled or in foreign languages. These types of articles tend to sit in the queue for quite a while. We shouldn't mark them as reviewed until someone eventually makes a determination that they belong in the encyclopedia. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 22:56, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Competitive debate in the United States
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Ajay gartan (15:22, 6 October 2022)
hi how can I contribute to Wikipedia code base and make my suggestions --Ajay gartan (talk) 15:22, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Ajay - Wikipedia is mostly maintained by paid developers from the Wikimedia Foundation, but the place for suggestions would be WP:Village pump (technical). ThadeusOfNazereth(he/they)Talk to Me! 17:16, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Coxeter fan page
Hi,

You left an essay-like tag on the Coxeter Fan page. Can you leave some comments on the talk page clarifying the issue and/or what you believe should be changed? Nothing in the article falls under items 1--4 here []. The style is pretty typical of advanced research-level mathematics articles, and most of the article text is sourced from a published paper. Dzackgarza (talk) 04:15, 7 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Given the current copyright issues this sort of seems like a moot point, but I used the tag more generally because the article wasn't written in an encyclopedic way - Like you say, it's written in a style typical of advanced research-level mathematics articles. Wikipedia isn't a repository for research-level articles, it's an encyclopedia. The biggest issue is that there's no introduction actually explaining what a Coxeter Fan is - The entire article is essentially a sample problem. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/they)Talk to Me! 19:04, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Liberland and Verdis
Hi ThadeusOfNazereth! I saw you make a statement on Liberlands AfD to keep. The same guy that nominated Liberland for AfD also nominated Verdis, a neighbouring micronation for AfD aswell. I was wondering if you could make a honest statement on that AfD too on whether it should be kept, removed or turned into a redirect? I think this Joy user has a lot of bias against micronations. MicroSupporter (talk) 22:16, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * , please read WP:CANVASS. This sort of invitation to participate in a discussion is not allowed, and could lead to the results of the ongoing AfD being voided. signed,Rosguill talk 22:58, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * My apologies. I didn’t know. Thank you for telling me MicroSupporter (talk) 23:00, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Cheetagirl600 (23:17, 12 October 2022)
hello is there anywhere i can find good information on babylon --Cheetagirl600 (talk) 23:17, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Cheetagirl600 (23:18, 12 October 2022)
found it --Cheetagirl600 (talk) 23:18, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Alaska Synod
I assume you wish to withdraw this AfD as well - you'd better make that explicit: Articles for deletion/Alaska Synod. StAnselm (talk) 15:42, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Zulqarnainchand (07:45, 16 October 2022)
Good day, How many research contributions am I capable of making in a day? --Zulqarnainchand (talk) 07:45, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * That depends entirely on your own dedication! As long as your contributions follow Wikipedia guidelines (the most important ones are WP:RS and WP:GNG) then you can make as many as you want - There's no limit! ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 16:20, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

AFDs
Hello, ThadeusOfNazereth,

I was noticing with Articles for deletion/Northwest Washington Synod that the day after (ONE DAY!) you nominated all of these articles for deletion, you went ahead and redirected them all! This kind of makes a discussion at AFD pointless if you are going to take action prior to closure of the discussion. It also leaves the closer in a difficult position...what if the consensus isn't to Merge or Redirect these articles but you have gone ahead and already done it? Would they then need to revert all of your edits to carry out a decision to Keep or Draftify these pages?

AFDs are for community discussion and you shouldn't open one if you can't wait a week to hear what other editors think of your nomination. If you take action on your own prior to AFD closure, it's not a validation of your actions because you have done it in advance of a consensus decision being determined so all of your redirects can be undone by any editor who disagrees with your choices.

In the future, if you want to be bold and redirect articles, then go ahead and do so unless an editor objects and either reverts your edits or starts a talk page discussion about them. And only open AFDs for changes where you want to hear community input and for the consensus decision to be enforceable (for lack of a better word). Sound good? Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 21:38, 17 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the detailed feedback - Just for clarification, I wasn't planning on redirecting the articles without community consensus - I wouldn't have nominated them if I didn't want it! I got the process flustered after Jahaza told me in the discussion that I didn't need the nomination to do redirects/merges, so I withdrew the nomination based on that. I saw Necrothesp's comment on the AfD after I withdrew which initially confused me more - I probably should have engaged there to try and clarify what I was actually supposed to do but, rather stupidly, didn't want to rock the boat. I'm holding off on future nominations, batch or otherwise, until I get a better hang of the procedures. I don't think any of those will be undone as they're fairly non-controversial, but I obviously won't involve myself in any future discussion relating to them. I do plan on restructuring the list article, but that needed to happen regardless. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 21:50, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

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DYK for Transgender asylum seekers
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Question from AuburnFan7 (13:56, 24 October 2022)
Hello, I have a question. When should I tick the "Minor Edit" button when making edits? Thanks. --AuburnFan7 (talk) 13:56, 24 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Good question - The minor edit button should only be used for entirely superficial changes, so things like formatting, spelling, and correcting obviously false information. Most edits, especially those that add content, shouldn't be marked as minor. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 14:09, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

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Question from SbhadraAtlas (12:43, 27 October 2022)
hello

i want to create my company page in wikipedia so how to do it. --SbhadraAtlas (talk) 12:43, 27 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi SbhardaAtlas - There are instructions on this at Help:Your first article, but please keep in mind that if you work for the company, you have a conflict of interest, or a WP:COI. It might be better for you to instead follow the process at WP:Requested articles. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 19:42, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Klevihazizi (11:42, 28 October 2022)
What is your real name? --Klevihazizi (talk) 11:42, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Adele Ferguson (American journalist)
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Question from Frendi Eko on Sandbox (01:49, 1 November 2022)
SELAMAT SIANG BOS. BANTU FERIVIKASI HYPERKINK ATAU URL DAN LISENSI CREATIVE COMMONS. TERIMA KASIH. KOMPIRMASINYA BOS. --Frendi Eko (talk) 01:49, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello Frendi Eko - Unfortunately, I can't read Indonesian and Google Translate was not very helpful here, so I'm afraid I don't know what you're asking me. You might be more comfortable here at the Indonesian Wikipedia. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 03:37, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Karis yohanan (03:58, 2 November 2022)
how to make conflict in story --Karis yohanan (talk) 03:58, 2 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Karis - I'm afraid I don't understand the question. Are you asking about something specific? ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 13:38, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Rheinfire1 (20:16, 20 November 2022)
Hi!

How do I get permission to make a new article? --Rheinfire1 (talk) 20:16, 20 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello! Normally I would point you to Help:Your first article, but it seems like you already have a draft going at Draft:Jadrian Clark. The process would be to put Template:AfC submission at the top of the draft, which will automatically put it in the Articles for Creation queue to be reviewed. I will let you know now, though, that the article probably won't be accepted in its current state. I see you have a list of references at the bottom, but for an article about a living person it's a good idea to use inline citations so that each statement of fact has an accompanying citation. You also have a LOT of information in the college section that's not all necessary - All the really specific stats make it seem like trivia. I would clean up that section a lot and maybe make it resemble Kasim Edebali's "College career" section - One paragraph with the most important information. Let me know if you have other questions! ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 22:41, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Gabduck567 (02:36, 27 November 2022)
Good --Gabduck567 (talk) 02:36, 27 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Did you have a question, Gabduck? ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 03:08, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Neidea Creations (18:26, 30 November 2022)
Hi, I was creating a new page and somehow that got lost. Can you help in reviving the same please? --Neidea Creations (talk) 18:26, 30 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Is this (Draft:Prosenjit Weds Rituparna) the page you were creating?
 * I do need to tell you that your username implies that you have a conflict of interest (WP:COI), a shared account (WP:NOSHARING), and are potentially being paid for your editing (WP:PAID). You need to follow the instructions at WP:PAID to disclose that. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 18:32, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Userlads0 (04:43, 3 December 2022)
Can i added some people's biographi? --Userlads0 (talk) 04:43, 3 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Userlads0 - See WP:Your first article for the explanation of how to do this. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 15:20, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

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DYK for Enoch Marvin Banks
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Question from Crazwizardlizard (21:29, 8 December 2022)
hello I was hoping to make a very minor change to the alberta section on the page for rats, but the article is semi-protected so it seems i must be confirmed or something to do so. how should i proceed? --Crazwizardlizard (talk) 21:29, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Removed my !vote in one of the current RfX....
....and added yours. What could have been your reason for doing that?? 🤔 Volten <span style="color:lime	">001  <b style="color:red">☎</b> 18:58, 14 December 2022 (UTC)


 * I obviously wasn't aware that I did this. I didn't get an edit conflict notice or anything like that. Have you re-added your vote? ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 18:59, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Yeah I have re-added it. It's alright then...I understand. No big deal  Volten <span style="color:lime	">001  <b style="color:red">☎</b> 19:09, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Question from Hogan41 on Why create an account? (19:42, 15 December 2022)
Hello. Ready to help out anyway I can --Hogan41 (talk) 19:42, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Good guy's
It's about dam time I got on the winning side. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hogan41 (talk • contribs) 19:54, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Question from Hogan41 (20:00, 15 December 2022)
Hello. Do I just give my information on hear. --Hogan41 (talk) 20:00, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Hogan (and thanks for making an account)! I'm a bit confused, sorry - What information? If you're looking to start editing, I recommend trying The Wikipedia Adventure to get a hang of it. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 20:36, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Question from TB12AtWriting (02:22, 16 December 2022)
Should I be afraid to make edits? --TB12AtWriting (talk) 02:22, 16 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Not at all - WP:BEBOLD! If you do get reverted or get a warning message, don't freak out, but take it as a learning opportunity and feel free to ask other editors questions. If you're new, I would start by checking out WP:The Wikipedia Adventure to learn the basics. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 02:30, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Question from Uday polishetty (06:35, 20 December 2022)
Get me full information about type conversion --Uday polishetty (talk) 06:35, 20 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Uday - What do you mean by "type conversion"? ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 08:05, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Question from Sukanya nambalayil on Theft of the Jules Rimet Trophy (18:59, 30 December 2022)
Hello sir I'm from Kerala,India. I'm new to this platform and please bless me --Sukanya nambalayil (talk) 18:59, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

what should i do to edit in malayalam language Sukanya nambalayil (talk) 19:00, 30 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Sukanya - The Malayalam Wikipedia can be found here. It's a version of Wikipedia entirely in Malayalam and will probably be more comfortable for you. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 19:13, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: 1977–78 1. FC Köln season (January 3)
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Question from EriePavel (17:01, 4 January 2023)
Hi, Thadeus, I´m Erie and I live in México. It´s grate to find a mentor psycologhist, I´m too. Hugs and sorry but ever write english. --EriePavel (talk) 17:01, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Question from Rachelemg (16:55, 6 January 2023)
how do i request a page to be made by someone else since i can't seem to get one approved --Rachelemg (talk) 16:55, 6 January 2023 (UTC)


 * You can use WP:Requested articles but be aware that there is a substantial backlog on that page. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 17:02, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Anon Pls.
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EB1911 Missing Articles list
Hi: hoping not to add to your stress; this is just an attempt to save you work. You recently added 1911 posters to some "Y" articles, and edited the corresponding Missing Articles list with the "ok" tag. According to a code a few of us established what feels like a lifetime ago, ok means the WP article contains significant text identical to EB, while no1911 means the page has been reviewed and has no such text. I think the pages you edited are still no1911 by that definition. Admittedly this distinction is (a) arcane (b) not properly documented currently (I'll fix that) (c) not useful, unless one day we do some statistics. But, as I said, no need for the extra editing work in this case. David Brooks (talk) 22:08, 11 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Appreciate the clarification. I did look before I started and couldn't find anything so I made my best guess - Good to know! ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 22:34, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

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Establish notability
How do you establish notability? XF1998 (talk) 23:16, 17 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi XF1998 - So the general go-to guide is the "General Notability Guideline" which outlines what we expect at the bare minimum. It seems like a lot of your editing is in the music area, and we actually have a subject-specific guideline for music at "Notability (music)" that goes a lot more in-depth. You might also check out WikiProject Music, which links to a bunch of other projects/pages and probably has better information than I can provide since it's a bit outside of my wheelhouse. Happy editing! ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 23:32, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Anon Pls.
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Question from KayasthAyush (08:03, 24 January 2023)
I want to know about Kayasth Collection --KayasthAyush (talk) 08:03, 24 January 2023 (UTC)


 * This is what Google is for - I'm not going to link to an ecommerce website here. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 16:12, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Question from Truss905 (18:32, 24 January 2023)
Hey can you show me George mason --Truss905 (talk) 18:32, 24 January 2023 (UTC)


 * George Mason? ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 18:34, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

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Question regarding edits to ELCA Synods
Hello, I am new to being a real user of Wikipedia, so I hope I am asking this in the right place.

It appears as though you made some edits to several articles for induvial synods of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America where you merged their individual pages which included a lot of cultural history and detail of those bodies, into one page that lists all those bodies but includes no cultural or historical detail. I am hoping you can she some light on this decision for me. It seems like a net loss to internet to lose those stories.

Thank you for your time, and dedication to preserving knowledge! BAPM1530 (talk) 18:40, 27 January 2023 (UTC)


 * So there's an important clarification that needs to be made about redirecting - None of the information has actually been deleted, it's still accessible in the page history. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the information in those pages was either uncited or cited only to primary sources, and my review of secondary literature did not turn up much substantiation. You can see WP:GNG for more in-depth explanation with a lot of helpful examples, but Wikipedia uses a three-pronged model to determine notability - Topics require "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." A couple examples:
 * A page like Alaska Synod, which only contained references to the ELCA itself, isn't showing its notability OR any information not on the List of ELCA synods page, and there were a lot of synod pages like that, many with no references at all.
 * Some of the pages that looked like they had more substance weren't really saying anything about the synod itself. Take the New Jersey Synod page as an example here, where there are three paragraphs devoted to explanations of the neighboring synods and the history of the area independent from the Synod. That's all essentially trivial content that doesn't enhance a reader's understand of the synod itself, and we wouldn't expect to see that in an print encyclopedia entry.
 * Just now I reviewed about a dozen of those redirects and didn't see anything with cultural or historical detail in the versions I redirected, but it's possible some exists in the ones I didn't check - If you're aware of secondary sources and can expand those back into full articles, please do! I'm not really editing in this area anymore, I've been focusing on African-American history, but let me know if you have questions or want me to take a look at a draft or anything like that :) ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 18:58, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Rose Freistater
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Suggestion
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Question from Kzars on United Conservative Party (21:25, 5 February 2023)
Hi! I believe my citation for the UCP agenda isn’t showing up as complete. Any support would be appreciated. Thanks for your help. --Kzars (talk) 21:25, 5 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello! I was able to fix the citation - It was missing the "title" field, where you put the page/article/document title. I went ahead and filled it with "Policy and Governance Resolutions" since that's on the first page of the document, but if there's a more correct title feel free to rename it. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 22:05, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Precious
You are recipient no. 2809 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:24, 5 February 2023 (UTC)


 * What a wonderful surprise, Gerda :). Thank you!!! ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 00:34, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

New Draft
Hello User:ThadeusOfNazereth, I've been putting together a lot of information about BTcc ex-CEO and entrepreneur Bobby Lee in my draft (Draft:Bobby C. Lee), I believe that the sources I gathered are plenty. Would you be interested on reviewing my AfC application? I know that it is not cool to ask directly but I've been waiting like 50 days so it might never be brought to attention otherwise. Thank you very much NeoWDs (talk) 17:42, 16 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello! It's a bit outside my area of expertise but I will take a look later today :) ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 18:58, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Encyclopedia (novel)
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