User talk:Thadius856/Archive/February 2007

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 * Update: After soaking up the glory of the smile for quite a while, I've decided to finally "respond" to it so that Werdnabot can archive it. Thanks all the same, Shaking! I appreciate it. :D thadius856talk 00:08, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject books tag
Hi there. I just removed an AWB-added wikiproject books tag you added to Talk:At Dawn in Rivendell. I thought it was not appropriate as it is actually a music album, not a book, but wanted to let you know in case you felt differently. If you agree, would you be able to remove the tags from any other non-book articles you might have tagged it with? Carcharoth 11:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Update: I do agree that the article should not have been tagged with the WPBooks banner and support your removal of it. Thank you for doing so. The problem was that the article was categorized too broadly, namely in both and . Occasionally it does happen under such circumstances, though I still appreciate you bringing the issue to my attention. :) thadius856talk 19:38, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Why is American Mathematical Monthly considered part of WikiProject Books?
Hello Thadius856. After a quick glance at WP:BOOKS I don't understand why the AMM, a mathematical journal, is being assessed as though it is a work of literature. Can you explain further? Today you attached WPBooks to its Talk page. EdJohnston 03:11, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Update: This is because American Mathematical Monthly was in, which I hadn't anticipated to contain scholarly journals, but rather stubs on mathematical books and their creation and processes. I've removed the entire category from my list of articles to tag, as well as filtered out anything that contains that word "journal" in the article name for good measure, regardless of what category it resides in. Hope it helps! thadius856talk 04:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Db-author question
Hi -- I just removed a Db-author tag you placed on Talk:Bibliography of Damon Knight, and I noticed you'd also placed one on Talk:Bibliography of Andre Norton. I just wanted to check in with you to find out your reasoning -- G7 seems quite at odds with my understanding of the Knight biblio, and the Norton biblio is a detailed page too. Did you deliberately place them on the talk pages instead of the project pages? Just wanted to check, as I figured maybe I'm missing something. Mike Christie (talk) 22:43, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Update: I believe you missed my intent. My bot, Thadius856AWB, was tagging articles with WPBooks WikiProject banners for articles in specific categories. Bibliography of Damon Knight, which is a redirect, was located in one of these categories. Mistakenly, my bot tagged Talk:Bibliography of Damon Knight, thinking it was the talk page for the article, not for the redirect which points to a section in the Damon Knight article. As such, my bot created a page which is entirely useless, so I tagged them db-author as the best criteria I could find. To reiterate: the CSD was applied to the talk page of the redirect to the article section, not the talk page of the article itself. If you look at the history of these articles, I think it would explain things better than I could. thadius856talk 22:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, perhaps it doesn't matter, as it appears these articles are now in the state I would expect to find them, but I still suspect there is a misunderstanding here. I don't think Bibliography of Damon Knight has ever been a redirect -- I created it and have kept an eye on it.  It certainly isn't one now, and the history doesn't seem to show any redirect either.  The talk page had never been used, but naturally doesn't need deleting.  Is it possible your bot did something unexpected?
 * I also removed the tag from Talk:Bibliography of Andre Norton for the same reasons, though I didn't create that article.  Again there seems no record of a redirect in the history.
 * I'm sorry if I'm being dense and am missing something obvious, but I really can't see the situation you describe in the history. Mike Christie (talk) 02:42, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * You're right in that they're not redirects, though the others I had mistakenly tagged were. My mistake. As for the histories, I'm referring to the histories of the talk pages themselves, not the articles, found here and here. They have no history before my accidental creation. Just for clarity, db-author would have the mistakenly created talk pages deleted, but the articles would have been left in their present conditions. thadius856talk 03:05, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, that clears it up; thanks for the explanation. And I was unaware that one could delete a page without deleting the talk page; hence I assumed that deleting the talk page would take down the article page too.  Thanks for the info.  No reason to actually go ahead and delete the talk pages now; they'll get used eventually.  Mike Christie (talk) 03:40, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Vandal on the loose
When I went to warn a vandal today after reverting three attacks, I noticed that he had blanked your warning from December so I reverted that and listed all the attacks on his User talk page (User talk:76.187.181.172) with a new warning. Just wanted to you to know in case he hits any articles you are watching. Cheers and fly safe, HJ 02:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Update: Thanks for keeping an eye out. I appreciate the notice as well. thadius856talk 22:23, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

???
I am as far as the legacy section on the Iranian director. From the start t here I think it reads fine that paragraph I have tagged as clean up needs copy editing and neutralsing though Ernst Stavro Blofeld 18:46, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Update: I have no idea what article you'd referring to. Can you provide a link? thadius856talk 18:48, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

One sheet in WikiProject Books?
Your bot has tagged Talk:One_sheet as part of WikiProject Books. Can you tell me why? I see no definition of one-sheet (either as a movie poster or a tear sheet for music publicity) falling under the WikiProject Books scope. Also, the one sheet page needs to be reorganized (disambiguation?) since the one sheet (film) definition is far more common and appropriate than the music definition -- the music definition should probably be removed entirely. Can you provide any more info about this tagging? Thanks. -jca2112 19:08, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Update: I've gone ahead and removed it. It was in Category:Music publication stubs, which is where the confusion came from. Thanks for keeping and eye out and the good catch. :) thadius856talk 19:31, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Quest Breakdancing...
You tagged this? I was doing it for a friend and it took over two hours... And all of a sudden its deleted. I know its my first contribution and I may have made mistakes but I look back on here after a half an hour and its gone!

RfA
Hi. I've noticed your insane contributions to CSD (we have 4 admins working on CAT:CSD and we're breaking even), and was wondering if you've given thought to adminship. I would gladly nominate you. Plus it'd make your job a lot easier. Let me know your opinion whether you want it.-- Wizardman 04:39, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll assume not. Probably bettter for you to wait a couple months to get rid of those kind of opposers though.-- Wizardman 06:10, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Update: Not a problem. I just don't feel like being picked apart by the cabal. While I know I don't exactly smell of roses, I still don't care much for my every edit being picked through like an NFL game for the Sunday Night sports reel. Not that I don't appreciate it or that I would mind wielding the mop, but at this point in time, only Jimbo's decree would get me in as an admin. :) thadius856talk 06:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * PS: As a sign of my appreciation, I made sure to stay on until CAT:CSD had at least 100 pages in it again. Here's 110 for ya... enjoy! thadius856talk 06:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * And I'm actualyl off to bed now, so the admins that are left can deal with that :P. But yeah, They'd probbaly end up attackign your gaps in editing (which I know are from CSD patrolling, they might not). Thanks for replying though.-- Wizardman 06:21, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Constantin Kousnetzoff Article
A tag has been placed on Constantin Kousnetzoff, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. I don't know what to do about it. (It's my first contribution to wikipedia) What do I have to explain exactly ? Christophe.ddr 05:25, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Update: No problem. You've correctly tagged the stub article and written a fairly good lead sentence. You just need to establish the notability of the subject in the second sentence: tell about any famous paintings that he did and wikilink them if possible. That's all. :) thadius856talk 05:33, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok. Thanks for the answer. Christophe.ddr 05:55, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Carol Heifetz Neiman
How do I put the hangon tag on a page that's already been deleted? I don't see how to do that. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kitode (talk • contribs) 06:18, February 6, 2007
 * Update: You can't. It's gone. I'd just look it up in your contributions, but once an article is deleted, all contributions to it disappear as well. We can't view the deleted page either, as that's an admin-only action. thadius856talk 06:22, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

That is rather irritating. So what you're saying is that a first-time poster who puts something up and says it's a stub at dinnertime has to respond to a quick-delete within the hour? Great. Glad I didn't put any more time into it.

I guess I'm confused - was this all done by bot and there was no person involved at all?


 * Update: Well, I can tell you that I tagged it with Criteria for Speedy Deletion A7 and that it was deleted for notability reasons. That much is obvious from the message I left on your talk page. Either the subject of the article did not meet Wikipedia's policy on notability or you did not establish notability of the subject in the article. I'm apologize, but it's just not possible to memorize each and every article that gets deleted for notability, as there's just far too many. thadius856talk 15:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Burning Rain
I just went through this with these Burning Rain (Burning Rain (album) and Pleasure to Burn (album)) articles. The guitarist is a member of Whitesnake, which makes him and any other band he's in notable. As a matter of fact, I tagged Burning Rain earlier and it was deleted, so I need to talk to Eagle101 and get that restored. It's kind of funny how we'd make the same mistake, huh?  W odu p  07:58, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Update: I'm not sure what we both went through, but I assume you'd referring to the comment directly above this. The simple fact is that if he had asserted notability of the subject, I wouldn't have questioned it for a second. Hope I'm not totally off. :) thadius856talk 08:06, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Sasha Costanza-Chock
I added the hangon tag to the RIAA whores entry and a short reasoning on the talk page. Please respond and don't delete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by S.chock (talk • contribs) 19:59, February 9, 2007
 * Update: I saw that you added the hangon tag. That's fine. However, when you add that tag, you replaced it over the original CSD template. Both should stay on the page when speedy deletion is contested, hence why I added it back. All the same, an admin has to review before deleting anyway, so it makes no difference in whether or not the article will be deleted. thadius856talk 20:06, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Update: Just in case you hadn't seen, I figured I'd mention that the article was proposed by another edit for Articles for Deletion. thadius856talk 09:21, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

note on proding
i did not know if it could be speedy delation thanks for telling me that thanksOo7565 17:32, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Update: No problem. Keep up the good work. thadius856talk 20:02, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

your tagging bot
Tagged Gay icon as being a biography project article. It clearly does not fall under the scope of the biography project, so I have removed the tag. Jeffpw 06:24, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Update: Thank you for removing it, as well as responding here and not on my bot's talk page. :) thadius856talk 20:02, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Oliver Shipp
why did you mark this for speedy deletion, how do know that it is not notable? it could be and you just dont know it. it also took me quite some time to figure out to make everything the way it is, with this deletion business going on, i might be very disenclined to ever use wikipedia again, i have been a avid user of wikipedia for 2 years (not a registered but i use to look up info) i dont think its quite fair to delete my work if you have no relative idea of what my work is about, the wiki isnt even done yet just getting started
 * Update: The Criteria for Speedy Deletion A7 states that it is an article about a person, group of people, band, club, company or website that does not assert the importance or significance of the subject. Whether the subject is notable is not the question here, as that determination is made by Wikipedia's policy on notability for individuals, but rather that the article did not assert this notability, if any. thadius856talk 20:25, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

RE: The Morionor page
Apparently whoever added them to the list of example bands for the Melodic Black Metal article months ago felt that they were "notable". I happen to live in the Atlanta area and I can attest that this band has a considerable underground following. What or whom deems something to be "notable"? This seems to be entirely a matter of personal opinion on behalf of the person (you) doing the deleting? If I find a polka band with a small article that I have zero interest in does that permit me to delete the article becuase it is not of interest to me? True the article is not very developed, I am not very skilled in the ways of Wikipedia yet so I was hoping if I just set up the basics someone with the know-how might come along later and fill out the missing parts, specifically the bar that goes along the right. If you intent to delete this article could you at least warn me before hand, I spent about half an hour collecting the information and figuring out how to format it so I would be annoyed if it all disappeared so quickly. Please don't get the impression I'm giving you a hard time, I'm just confused as to why one obscure band is notable while another which is just as obscure is not. Hyperion395 07:50, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Update: A few things you need to understand:
 * What or whom deems something to be "notable"?
 * That would be WP:MUSIC.
 * This seems to be entirely a matter of personal opinion on behalf of the person (you) doing the deleting?
 * I am not deleting anything. I am tagging the article for deletion, which an administrator must then review.
 * If you intent to delete this article could you at least warn me before hand...
 * I did not intend to delete it and am not required to notify for deletions under the Criteria for Speedy Deletion. Notification is only recommended for Articles for Deletion, though not required even then.
 * If you read closely the CSD tempalte it says that "...does not assert the notability of the subject". This does not mean that the subject is not notable, but rather that the creator did not tell what makes the subject notable as it pertains, in this case, to WP:MUSIC. If the band is truly notable, then you should have no problems meeting the criteria in that policy. thadius856talk 08:04, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, so you don't delete the article - you just flag it and someone else deletes it five minutes later. I can see how that's completely different. Thanks for throwing the book at me, and for deleting my page before I had a chance to even log back in. Luckily from reading all the other people griping about how you deleted their pages (excuse me, flagged for deletion) I knew this was coming and saved it. I'd make a Wikipedia article called "Pretentious College Kid" to describe what I think of you but it's probably not notable enough, right? Hyperion395 06:25, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Update: Correct, I did not delete it &mdash; nor do I have the power to actually delete any article. An administrator would have to review and agree with my assessment in order for the article to be deleted. The volume of messages on my talk page means relatively little, given the volume of New Pages patrol I do. Rarely is anybody happy to see an article go, but Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information and, as such, notability guidelines need to be observed. Had notability been established in the article when it was created, this discussion would never have existed. One last thing: I will ask you to refrain from personal attacks. thadius856talk 09:15, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Tri-Fest
I've added some referencing and links on the Tri-Fest article you flagged as non-notable. If you find that these have established the event's notability, please remove the notability flag. Thanks! Acdixon 14:39, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Update: Great work! That definitively established the notability of the subject. I removed the template earlier this morning. Keep up the good work! thadius856talk 20:26, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I Ought to Be in Pictures
I'm curious as to why you labeled this article a "stub." What more could one possibly say about it? SFTVLGUY2 22:16, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Professor Nicholas Saunders
When you see such an unmistakable copy-and-paste such as that, where ALL of the original page's source is added, have no hesitation about flagging it for WP:CSD as there can be almost no question that it is a straight-up copy of another source. 68.39.174.238 12:25, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Update: I agree that a large amount of well-rounded text in one fell swoop is a good indicator of copy and paste action. However, it is not proof of such. I've written a few articles where I could imagine somebody saying the same about my work. I mark all copyvios with the CSD tag and a URL, but when I am unable to find the source, I use copypaste so that others can at least give a whack at determining the source. thadius856talk 18:53, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Wyatt Building
Thanks - I am exploring how to set up a useful structure for a set of architect's buildings.

Not happy with this page yet and am exploring the architecture templates

Uneirlys 18:03, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Update: In the future, you may wish to test templates in the WP:SANDBOX. You can even create a subpage for yourself and have your own, private sandbox to edit as you please. However, the CSD tag is still valid for Wyatt building. thadius856talk 18:13, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

F.O.R.C.E.
hello, I was puzzled by your caution that the F.O.R.C.E. entry might be deleted. I would be glad to provide more information about that highly responsible nonprofit organization.

p.s. I am not a woman with hereditary risk of breast and ovarian cancer. I am a male professor at University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine and I do research on psychological adaptation to cancer and familial risk of cancer.

Darkhorse007


 * Update: If I remember correctly, the I speedied the article because it did not establish the notability of the subject. I can't check this, since it was not originally at F.O.R.C.E. and probably another name, so the logs aren't available. If you need any further questions answered, please feel free to respond here. thadius856talk 20:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Chris Gocong
I was wondering if you know Chris Gocong's racial/ethnic background. I'm a philadelphia Eagle fan. I've heard several fans wonder aloud about it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.223.59.50 (talk) 15:15, 15 February 2007 (UTC).

DavidMcManus.co.nr
I really want this page to stay up as it is detailing information about a popular website in Ireland.Please feel free to discuss this with me.--Davetheravemcmanus 20:47, 17 February 2007 (UTC)