User talk:Thanatosimii/Archive 1

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Pharaoh Infobox
Hi – I have been doing some work on the above template, and am changing it so that nearly all of the parameters are optional, so that the box will be smaller for those individuals for which there is little or no information. Is there anything that needs to be added to the template, or changes that should be made. Keep up the good work by the way! Markh 06:47, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * See Djet article for a very short version of the infobox! Markh 07:24, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Dance capitalization
I noticed that you listed yourself as a linguist. There is currently a dispute at the Lindy Hop article the Dance WikiProject about the capitalization of dances that could use the expertise of a linguist. If you think you might be able to help, we would certainly appreciate your comments. Thanks! --Cswrye 05:27, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * My training so far has been in etymology and philology mostly. Capitalization isn't my forte. Sorry Thanatosimii 05:44, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Ontario Parks
Hi Thanatosimii, regarding your decision to reinstate my redirects of the park class articles (Recreation Park (Ontario), Natural Environment Park (Ontario), Nature Reserve Park (Ontario)), my edits were made with rational reasoning and should not be labelled "rv" (revert vandalism). I don't see how these articles have any potential and will ever be more than a stub with a definition, as they are now. I know, everyone takes great pride in their contributions, but these articles really are redundant. In any case, I'll leave this issue with you... -- P199 00:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * (rv) stands for ReVert. At least, this is the way I have seen them used in every context, besides mere vandalism. As to the the pages themselves, they could be much improved by, at the very least, a list of noteable parks of that type. Above all else, however, other pages link directly to them, while a link to ontario parks would make no sense, and for this reason they need to stay. Thanatosimii 00:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Co-ordinating Pharaoh infobox efforts?
I see you have been adding further Pharaoh infoboxes, so far to Ahmose I's successors (Amenhotep I and Thutmose I). I tackled Amenemhat III last night and Hatshepsut this morning. Just so we don't step on each others toes and copy each other's efforts, could you let me know which ones you want to tackle and I'll follow suit. Perhaps alternating pharaohs? P.S. Over the weekend I hope to get to the local reference library and look up those other references for Ahmose I that llywrich mentioned, which will hopefully finish that article off. Cheers!


 * What you suggest is very reasonable. I will work on the Pharoah infoboxes for those Pharoahs of the 19th dynasty that do not have them, from Seti II on up. If you need any info on the royal families of Egypt filled in for the pharaohs you are tackling, let me know, as I have the recent Dodson work on the subject that is fairly comprehensive. As for Ahmose I, I think that we actually stand an excellent chance at making it as a Good Article, and possibly as a Feature Article (I note that none of the pharaonic articles has reached the latter status as yet; Hatshepsut has applied and failed a couple of times, and am surprised that the one for Cleopatra has been entered as one). I take your point regarding adding breaks in the infoboxes. I run twin monitors at relatively high-res, and may not see what you see on your screen. Cheers! Captmondo 18:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi, I have made some more changes to the pharoah infobox template, which now include sub-templates for Horus, Golden Horus and Nebty names. This meant I had to split up some of the parameters and make new ones. I am changing those affected templates, can you give them a once over to make sure I haven't messed up all your good work? Cheers Markh 08:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Senusret vs. Sesostris vs. Senwosret
Saw your query about this on my talk page. I am more inclined to go with a name that is more in line with the actual pronunciation, so my "vote" would be for "Senwosret". Part of the reason for Sesostris' popularity on Google is that it is the name that Manetho and Herodotus both used. On the whole I would prefer to avoid using the Greek-ified names for pharaohs, and use something that is arguably more authentic to the original language, and certainly note the other popular names for the pharaoh(s). It would also be easy to set up a link from Sesostris n to the intended target page (ditto for Senusret n for that matter). To complicate things further, I note that Egyptologist Ian Smith (who edited the Oxford History of Ancient Egypt) prefers to use Senusret, and refers to Sesostris (usually in relation to Manetho/Herodotus) he does so in quotes. If you haven't already asked Marhk about this, I strongly suggest you ask Garzo and Llywrch about this as well, the former being something of an expert of languages, and the latter likely to have an opinion on the subject. Cheers! Captmondo 13:08, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Menes
I admittedly don't have any sources handy more recent than 1979 or so and I can recall no mention of such an ostrakon. I'll leave it to you then. TCC (talk) (contribs) 02:49, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Improvement drive
Hi I have started to change the banner I created a couple of months ago, to be like the biography banner, is there anything that we need to include here that you can think of? I can probably get the template built myself, but the information shown may need to be changed. Markh 10:07, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Try it now. Should be OK Markh 17:35, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Doesn't look like the overnight bot worked – I will have a look and see what I have done wrong. Markh 11:00, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Identity
I believe that you are IP 24.87.128.182. If you are not, forget what I say here. Stop being so hard-headed. Just because you do not agree with something does not mean you can just vandalize until all it shows are your opinions. NO evidence exists to support either of your datings for Biblical events, so I believe you should stop ruining other peoples theories and stating your even less-likely theories. And what you delete even follows all Wikipedia rules, while what you add does not. So please stop vandalizing pages. You have been reported by me and other users.mikey 00:45, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Who the crap are you and what are you blathering about. I have no idea what nonsense you're going on about, and that's not my IP adress! Thanatosimii 00:49, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, you aren't that IP? Uh, sorry, we didn't report you, just the IP, so you're safe.  Sorry!  I just thought it was you because on the talk page for 24.87.128.182 someone addressed that IP as Thanatosimii, so I thought that IP and you were one and the same.  Plus, the stuff in your profile matched the views kept by that IP, but as long as you don't go around saying that your theory is right above all, you can keep your opinion.  I'm sorry.  And if you're lying, you're not in trouble with this profile.mikey 00:53, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I noticed a mistake that you make want to take note of on your user info: we know for a fact that Queen Tiy was daughter of Yuya and Tjuyu, Tjuyu being a native Egyptian, and Yuya perhaps being a Canaanite or Semite.mikey 22:13, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Could you please send me a link to this? I am intersted in reading about Tjuyu possibly bieng a Mitannian.mikey 17:40, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Copyedit of Ahmose I article
Earlier I asked EditorAtLarge to take a look at "our" Ahmose I article. She has had a go at it and currently has a version in her sandbox, where she has a number of questions (in bold text). Am about to turn in for the evening, but thought I'd mention it to you if you have the chance to look at her queries. Cheers! Captmondo 02:02, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Ahmose I
Go ahead and make the changes on my sandbox, and you can move the edited text. I already did a number of changes to the article, mostly grammar and punctuation with some re-wording of sentences. My notes are just what I didn't feel comfortable editing myself (due to lack of information) or what could use more information. Some parts I found a bit confusing and didn't quite understand.

Overall I think it's in good shape, and after a bit more cleaning up it should make a good FA candidate! —  E ditor at L arge  ( talk  ) 15:01, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I copied the original article into my User:Editor at Large/Sandbox and then replaced it with my edited version, so you can use the comparison tool in the history to see the changes I made. I figured it would be easier if you could see them now. —  E ditor at L arge  ( talk  ) 15:06, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

About Jürgen von Beckerath
I have a question about the secondary literature on Egyptian chronology that I thought you might help me with.

I'll admit that as it currently stands, Egyptian chronology needs an awful lot of work -- even though I'm responsible for its current form, & its better than what was there before. As a result, I was reading the German Wikipedia version of this article for some help to improve it, & noticed that it openly stated that it uses the work of Jürgen von Beckerath as its source for dates. However, I know nothing about von Beckerath, whether he is a respected expert or a writer on the fringe -- or just a kook. The English Wikipedia article on him has a little about him, but for someone like me who is not familiar with the secondary literature this article could either be presenting an accurate image of him -- or it could be heavily slanted & unfairly omitted some important caveats about him. (I've read one of David Rohl's books, & unless the reader is familiar with Egyptian history -- or even the history of the Ancient Middle East -- he sounds very convincing & plausible. Further, knowing something about this period, I have to concede that he does have some accurate information in his books.)

In short, should I worry about using material derived from von Beckerath, or is he as safe to rely on -- well, as safe as any one Egyptologist? -- llywrch 21:01, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, knowing that he's "clearly not a David Rohl" is a help, even if you find out nothing more about him. Thanks. -- llywrch 21:49, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Ryholt's book
Dear Thanatosimii, I don't know if you have access to Ryholt's 1997 book on the Second Intermediate Period at your local University but I have several photocopies of his book. Many of the books on this obscure and difficult period are dated and were published in the 1950's, 1960's or 1970's. As an Aside, Dodson calls Ryholt's book as critical for an understanding of this period in a Bi Or (Jan.-April 2000) Book review. Regards. Leoboudv 01:16, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Pictures
Hello there -- sorry not getting back to you sooner. The Egyptologist I contacted did not have any images of Hatshepsut to offer. She told me that she doesn't have much from Thebes either, at least nothing close up, save some pics of from Deir el-Bahri. She did say that if people have requests for specific scenes of the reliefs, she may have something worth posting. She also said if there's an article on the saff-tomb type of structure, she would have material that would be good to illustrate it. She also has photos of the Khasekhemwy funerary enclosure at Abydos, and several views from within and without the Seti I temple at Abydos and from the Ramses II temple nearby. If you wanted to see what she has posted to flickr, go to: http://www.flickr.com/photos/shoveling_ferret/, where I believe you can also contact her (you may have to sign up first). Egyptologists tend to be very specialized in their research, so I didn't find it too surprising that she didn't have anything specifically on Hatshepsut. You might want to consider asking the professionals and advanced amateurs at the Egyptologists' Electronic Forum (see: http://showcase.netins.net/web/ankh/eefmain.html) for something appropriate. Since so many of her images were deliberately destroyed or altered, I am not surprised that it is hard to source a representative graphic for her. I have some pics of a cast made at the turn of the last century of her voyage to Punt that are up at the Royal Ontario Museum, but the image of the pharaoh has been neatly chiseled out. I can post those to WikiMedia, though I don't think they are likely to replace what's there. Sorry have been out of contact of late, but work/life has gotten busy now that summer has ended. On the plus side, have recently picked up a good book on the Hyksos, and when time allows will make some contributions to that topic. Cheers! Captmondo 23:34, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Another possible angle to pursue on this front: there are many images of Hatshepsut's temple complex/obelisk/statuary to be found on flickr; see: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Hatshepsut%E2%80%8E&m=text. Perhaps you could find an image(s) that you think would be suitable for illustrating the Hatshepsut and ask the owners of the pictures if they would be willing to donate the image to WikiMedia? I'd do this myself, but am busy with many non-Wiki things at the moment, and don't have the time at present to properly co-ordinate this. If you are not handy with WikiMedia simply identify the pics on flickr that you do like and when I have the time I can attempt to contact their owners and see if they are willing to donate the image. Cheers! Captmondo 13:22, 19 September 2006 (UTC)