User talk:Thargor Orlando/ArchiveJune-July2013

Edit warring on March Against Monsanto
Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you don't violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Viriditas (talk) 02:04, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Further note: you were previously warned about edit warring here, so this isn't your first warning. Viriditas (talk) 02:08, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I guess someone who was previously blocked for two weeks for edit warring might know, but if you've paid any attention at talk, you'd know we've progressed. And looking further, you template one guy with two reverts, but not the one who supports your POV edits.  Pretty telling right there.  Thargor Orlando (talk) 03:03, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * There has been absolutely no progress on either the talk page or in the article aside from outright deletion of material you solely object to alone. You've also been edit warring on multiple pages such as Independence Institute, where you have repeatedly added a maintenance tag for no reason without any commentary on talk.  Again, this is not how we use tags.  Editors aren't required to telepathically communicate with you or guess your unstated reasons.  And please don't offer another "I don't like it" rationale.  Use the talk page if there's a problem, but use it to make good arguments based on evidence, not your personal beliefs. Viriditas (talk) 04:33, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Two edits in 5 months is not "edit warring." If you can't understand the discussion on a talk page, perhaps this isn't the hobby for you. Thargor Orlando (talk) 13:00, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * If you think you are fooling anyone with your pro-Monsanto, ALEC-funded, Independentce Institute lobbying on Wikipedia, you are sadly wrong. Viriditas (talk) 02:43, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the laugh. Thargor Orlando (talk) 03:01, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * For a real laugh, review your contribution history. It's clear what you are doing here and you aren't fooling anyone.  Your most recent edits to March Against Monsanto were made against the expressed consensus on the talk page and they will be reverted. Viriditas (talk) 07:20, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * That's not accurate and it's not wp:agf. North8000 (talk) 17:09, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

March Against Monsanto
Just wanted to give you a heads up that I've provided some input regarding your concerns about the undue weight issue given to Thom Hartmann's opinion on the March Against Monsanto page. You can find it on the talk page for the March Against Monsanto under the "Thomas Hartmann undue weight tag" section. Gobbleygook (talk) 15:43, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, will review and respond there. Thargor Orlando (talk) 15:45, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Help!
I'm not sure if I am using this wiki correctly but I am writing to ask you to please protect the page Cindy Rodriguez.

Thank you. Billolielies (talk) 02:06, 29 June 2013 (UTC)Billolielies
 * I'm not an administrator, but I hope you understand how problematic your edits are there. Please go to the talk page of the article if you think such a header is appropriate. Thargor Orlando (talk) 13:59, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Assistance to protect neutral POV on page
Thargo Orlando,

I have tried with great effort to maintain a balance of opinion in the Controversy section of the page on Mitsuo Fuchida, the lead pilot in the attack on Pearl Harbor. I admit I'm not that experienced on Wikipedia, but despite my best efforts, Binksternet continues to revert and edit to his own POV and bend the content of this historic figure, whom I know much about. I saw your name on Binksternet's (rejected) RFA as "Oppose" and thought, if nothing else, you might have some advice or perhaps help. I am requesting an article page ban here

Thanks for your consideration--TMartinBennett (talk) 23:41, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I will take a look, but I will note that people do not take kindly to canvassing, either, so be careful that you're not digging your own hole. My interactions with Binksternet have been minimal to basically nonexistent, outside of his trying to rope me in on something, so I'm afraid I can't give you much help outside of telling you to be sure he's not underhandedly trying to get you involved in something without your knowledge.  Good luck. Thargor Orlando (talk) 23:50, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I have a job and can't devote a ton of time here, but how, exactly, do I direct people to a proposed article block if I can't ask people to look at it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theleopard (talk • contribs) 00:02, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * If it truly gets to the point that such a block needs to happen, you'll know it. Thargor Orlando (talk) 00:04, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

The Cuckoo's Calling
My finger was hovering over the vandalism button when you added this, as a Rowling fan and frequent contributor to the page, I actually couldn't believe this was real. Thanks for breaking this news to me! —JennKR | ☎ 23:33, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Imagine my surprise when I came to the page to get more information and there was nothing. Already reserved it at my library... Thargor Orlando (talk) 23:50, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

I filed a WP:DRN on Rape and pregnancy controversies in United States elections, 2012
I filled a WP:DRN on Rape and pregnancy controversies in United States elections, 2012. I would ask that we put the past behind and come to some comprise language where there remains disputes. The link to the discussion is here. Casprings (talk) 03:05, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Wrong link to the discussion. It is here. Casprings (talk) 03:33, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

ReasonTV
If this is a reliable source, then I am very interested in using it in its proper context with appropriate attribution. My question to you is, have you watched the video editorial and can you summarize it for me? Viriditas (talk) 20:02, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The video is not what's being referenced. Thargor Orlando (talk) 20:15, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Bingo! That's precisely the problem!  A blurb about the source is not the source.  Do you understand? Viriditas (talk) 20:29, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Nope, because you've completely misunderstood the use of the source. I'll assume good faith and assume you didn't look at the source beyond the video. Thargor Orlando (talk) 20:32, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * But, there is no source beyond the video! It's like if you point me to a film on netflix and you don't watch the film but only cite the blurb on the main page. That's not a source. Viriditas (talk) 04:20, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 * You understand that the link I gave you had a video and text, right? Thargor Orlando (talk) 13:01, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Excuse me. I've watched the video in its entirety and read the text blurb.  This is a video editorial consisting of poorly edited footage of the protest, edited in such a way to make the protesters look like morons.  That's fun to watch and stuff, but it ain't a reliable source for use on Wikipedia.  As for the text, there's nothing to cite.  We don't cite sources like this for anything. Viriditas (talk) 13:14, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Your rationale?
How did this revert improve the article? Please respond on the talk page with your response. I am looking forward to it. Viriditas (talk) 13:22, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The edit summary answers your question. I am glad to discuss further at the talk page, as always. Thargor Orlando (talk) 19:05, 30 July 2013 (UTC)