User talk:ThatHurtsMyHead

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Blocked
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for using an illegitimate alternative account specifically for the purpose of edit warring, as you did at Cluster headache. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice:. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. —  Scott  •  talk  15:55, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment to reviewing administrator: There was nothing vindictive about this. I just find it exceedingly hard to believe that all of two minutes after I undid a bad revert, another account with no previous edits and a name that ties them to the content of the specific article in question appears to revert me. I'm obviously aware of WP:INVOLVED, and in this case I considered it such an obvious case of being an SPA that it simply wasn't worth the effort of finding another administrator to do the same thing (or begin a sockpuppet investigation). If this decision is found to be a bad call, I will of course abide by that assessment, and issue an apology as well. —  Scott  •  talk  16:33, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Scott,

I'm not sure if I'm putting this in the correct location, but thank you. Thank you for taking the time to look into cluster busters and thank you for understand that apparently you and I both had a missunderstanding and I sincerly apologize on my part. I now see there's a form to discuss changes and I'll make sure I'm engaged there before adding, deleting or changing parts of the Cluster Headache article. (but I really didn't create a second account :)

I hope you see that potentially saving someone's life is what the majority of those on clusterbusters are trying to do. I for one would likely be in a pine box by now as I had exhausted all medically approved options short of them cutting my brain open. I found the cluster busters website and I now live a mostly pain free life following a method of self treatment that doctors in western countries are forbid from discussing. A significant goal I plan to use some of the rest of my life for, is helping others with this condition that are coming to the point of either killing themselves, or having a doctor cut on their brain and possibly doing it for them.

I will definitely add a post to the wikipedia thread on cluster busters in support of working with wiki editors to further not an agenda, but saving lives by providing accurate information.

Thank you again, Jeff

Unblocked
I see now what's going on - Jeff, you're a member of the ClusterBusters forum. I've read through your thread discussing the cluster headache article.

Basically, appearing out of nowhere to start reverting someone's edits with a brand-new account is a big red flag. Usually it's a sign of somebody with a second account; more rarely, it's someone recruiting other people to make changes to support their position on something. Around here that's referred to as "meatpuppetry" (which I personally think is a dumb name, but we're stuck with it). It's basically treated as one editor with multiple accounts would be.

Having seen your comments at ClusterBusters, you've got the wrong impression; there are no personal agendas at play here. We just have very strict rules about where medical information on Wikipedia can be sourced from, and how much of each should be used (not giving undue weight to particular opinions). Likewise, our rules require unsourced information to be removed. You can read about these at WP:MEDRS.

By the way, I'm sorry about Daniel Case's comments above. I don't know him, but he seems to have been in a bad mood and should have been polite when handling your unblock request; that tone was uncalled-for. Unblock requests here are not handled by "reaching out to a friend"; they go into a queue for any admin to take a look at.

As you've seen, some of our highly experienced medical editors are now in the process of giving cluster headache a working-over. It may not have been obvious, but it was actually in very poor shape, largely caused by well-meaning visitors dumping all sorts of stuff into it over a period of years.

I'm going to unblock your account, because I don't think you mean badly at all. However, please reciprocate on my assuming good faith by not immediately starting "a cause" and participating in edit warring.

Please pass this message on to your friends on the forum - there's no reason why you at the ClusterBusters community can't work with us here (and indeed be part of the Wikipedia community as editors). But what you and your friends absolutely must do is spend a while getting to grips with the strictness of our referencing requirements, and participating in discussion on the article's talk page. I see that your member CHfather already has. You're all welcome to, but swarming in en masse to try and argue a point by sheer force of numbers will get you absolutely nowhere and may even damage your future ability to edit. If there are things you don't understand about how we work here, just ask and someone will be able to explain.

Sincerely, —  Scott  •  talk  01:26, 3 January 2014 (UTC)