User talk:Thatgirlswholovesmusic34

To all good wikipedians who visit this talkpage, behold! You are hereby informed: Thatgirlswholovesmusic34 is not in favor of cyberbullying.

To any naughty cyberbully-types that dare visit this talkpage which belongs to ThatGirl, begone! You are banished to friendster, where all cyberbullies must go!

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Hi, I'm new. I need help.


 * See my reply below. Of course, unless you post your question on one of the usual places, nobody is likely to see it!  If you need help in the future, best place to start is by clicking the Community Portal link over on the lefthand side of the page, and then clicking the big picture of what you need help with.  Refdesk?  Dispute Resolution?  And the various other options.  74.192.84.101 (talk) 21:52, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

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I have a question
Ok, so no offense,

But are we aloud to talk to people through our talk pages???? as I mean talk I mean like, " How are you doing??? Hi, My name is _______.because all people who have talk pages. All they talk about is updates and remind me to sign my posts [ No offense] but can someone at least say hi?? If I was offensive to anyone by apologies

- Thatgirlwholovesmusic34 :).......

 Reply  - Please see WP:OWNTALK. And don't forget to sign your posts with four tildes like this ( &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126; ). --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:37, 22 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi. How are you doing, thatgirl?  My name is 74.192.84.101 at the moment.  Please see the mountain-climbing-team metaphor in my post below, for an explanation of why people don't seem very sociable.  Hope this helps. :-)  Welcome to wikipedia.  74.192.84.101 (talk) 21:53, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Jax0677!!!!!!1
Thank you JAX0677 for helping me........

 Reply  - You're welcome! You may also wish to visit WP:Teahouse. --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:39, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again
OH, well thanks again I guess — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.87.112.51 (talk) 16:04, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Talkpages
Hi thatgirl, so it sounds like you're learning the ropes around here. :-)

As jax mentioned, wikipedia is not really like facebook -- chatting about stuff (besides improving the article in question) in the article-talkpages is frowned on, as off-topic.

On your own talkpage, this very page you are reading right now, you can of course chat to your heart's content. Other people can drop in and chat with you, too, like I'm doing. But if you just show up randomly on some person's talkpage that you don't already know (from editing together), then probably they'll just ignore you. The way to make friends is by helping them climb a mountain, and chatting about which slope to take on first. More on this in a moment. If you are looking for people to be friends with, the best place to start is the Teahouse... just click the link that Jax posted, and then you can click the new section button (at the top), and introduce yourself. In particular, say what you are trying to accomplish here. If your main goal is to make new friends, well, wikipedians are a pretty friendly bunch, so you can probably get that accomplished. But we're like a mountain-climbing-club, not like a party. We like challenges. Some folks are solo climbers, but plenty of folks are team climbers. Just find a mountain you think would be fun to climb (an article that obviously needs help), and start climbing (fixing it up). Your team will show up to help, sooner or later. You can alternatively find an article that is already being heavily edited, and join that team. I suggest staying away from articles about politics, religion, wars, abortion, bellbottoms, and other controversial topics, until you get the hang of editing 'normal' articles a little bit. No need for introductions -- just jump in and start fixing something you see needs improvement. People here often become friends, but in the context of improving wikipedia. Weird, eh?

Which leads me to this. Something tells me... just a wild guess... that you like music, and that you might want to improve articles about musicians, learn about the latest reliably sourced gossip in the music industry, and all that jazz. Or maybe, all that rock-n-roll. Country? Classical? Harpsichord concertos??? Or maybe you just love Tuvan throat singing, your username does not really tell me enough to figure it out.

Anyhoo, pick a topic, and then see if there's something that needs fixing. If you try to fix something in an article, and somebody deletes what you just did (gasp!) then please do not take it as an attack. It's actually an invitation to talk about the changes, over on the article talkpage. Yay! Here is the process: WP:BRD  It's fun, when you get used to it. Like team-oriented mountain-climbing. When somebody deletes your stuff, usually they're trying to tell you something crucial -- like, that ledge is about to crumble, look out! Or maybe, hey I've climbed this before, the slope is easier to the west. But they'll talk with you about it, if they follow pillar number four.

You can leave me a reply here, but if you respond over on my talkpage -- click the 'talk' button by my name here at the end -- I'll get a popup that you had a question for me, so I don't forget. Nice to meet you. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 21:49, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Please join the wikipedians who support cyberbullying club today!
Just kidding. :-)

If you want to tell the wikipedia world something about yourself, there is this thing called a userpage. Look up at the top, and see the userpage thing, with the red letters. Click it, and you should get a message like 'this page does not yet exist' and then... you get to create it. Fun. You can put mostly whatever you want on it... do *not* put stuff you copied from your favorite band's homepage on it though. Just stuff *you* personally wrote. Also, nothing illegal -- you should not offer Druggzz 4 SAAaallleee HHHhheeerrrreeee, right? Because you're damaging wikipedia, if you do. Here's the full load of bureacratic bullshit about userpage restrictions, in case you decide you need it. (Whoa... can I say that here?)

Which brings me to my next point. Sure, you *can* make a userpage. Plenty of people do. But it's not really The Thing around here. Anybody can have a facebook page, or a myspace page, or a friendster page, or a geocities page, or a page they *paid* somebody to make for them at www.ThatGirlWhoLovesMusic.com ....   But who cares, right? Maybe your mom. Maybe your BFF. But in the big picture, none of that stuff is very impressive. Wikipedia mainspace, though... if you make edits to the articles in wikipedia, your contribution is forever.

Wikipedia has userpages, but they're usually not very impressive either. Some of us never even bother to make one, in fact. The point here is making articles the best they can be, not about making userpages the best they can be. Make sense? Not yet, maybe. But it will come to you. That said, userpages are tons of fun, and they are a good way to learn about editing, creating links, and so on. If making one appeals to you, go for it. Ping me on my talkpage if you need anything, or want to chat a bit. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 01:37, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

HEllo 74.192.84.101, Can I call you 74.? anyway... How is your club? What is it about? or is it REALLY about supporting Cyber-bullying??? MAybe I can join if it's not about SUPPORTING Cyberbullying...

-Thatgirl — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thatgirlwholovesmusic (talk • contribs) 23:57, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh... you don't like my support-cyberbullying-club? Well!  How rude.  Probably you should join these people then.

HTH. But my club is way cooler. Even though I'm the only member so far, my mom is thinking about joining. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 00:05, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * ((copied from another talkpage)) I never said that I would not join your club. But I can't join your club. I do not mean to be offensive. FYI I am against cyber bullying 74.192.84.101. i'm sorry to be rude but I am.... Thatgirlswholovesmusic34  21:41, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, I know you are against it, in real life. You mentioned it over on Moxy's page, which is why I brought it up.  As I said in reply to you over on my own talkpage, I'm not really in the pro-bully club, and as far as I know, there is no such club, it was just a joke.  Anyways, if you want to put the anti-cyberbully logo on your own talkpage, click edit, and look at the curly braces.  Copy that stuff, and paste it into a page, any time you want the image to show up.  You should prolly just use it on your *own* pages though.  You cannot just go stick the anti-cyberbully logo into the Jello page, right?  Because it is a page about Jello.  There *is* also a page about cyberbullying on wikipedia.  But if you look in that article, it only has facts.  There are no opinions.  But who put the facts in there?  Folks like you and me, who wanted to make that article better.  Expressing your opinion on your talkpage is fun, but documenting the progress of the fight against cyberbullying in the real world... that's fun too, I think.  74.192.84.101 (talk) 05:23, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

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How do I Reply when someone's asking me something or just posted something on my User page and I want to comment?? do I just make a WHOLE NEW SECTION??? thatgirlswholovesmusic34-


 * You can make a whole new section, if you are starting a new subject -- like, say, talking about Jello, which definitely is a new section. But to reply to me, just like I replied to you, click on the [Edit] thingee, which is right next to the section-title.  So, if you want to reply to me, here, you would click the blue edit-thing, next to the big black questionmark, and then edit this section.  Put your reply at the bottom, use two colons at the front of your reply, and then put four tildes at the end.  Colon are next to the L-key.  Tildes are next to the TAB-key.  Give it a try, and you'll start to see how it works.  74.192.84.101 (talk) 21:37, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi thatgirl, congratulations, you got a message over on my talkpage. :-)  You will soon be an expert with this wikipedia stuff.  See if you can reply here, to this message, by clicking the blue edit above. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 05:00, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Hey! Hey! Hey! -thatgirlswholovesmusic34-


 * Nice work, you are learning fast now. Click edit again, and then put some little colons in front like   :: Hay Hay Hay.   74.192.84.101 (talk) 08:03, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Jello
Ok, so this is Probably Dome But.... Do a lot of people know what the lovely, Delicious Jello is made of??? @ first, I thought. Wow. if I'm just now realizing what Jello is made of. does everyone else know??? YES!NO? Last Friday my 14 Yr. Old cousin says. " Hey, Have you ever tasted Jello before? It's DELICIOUS! We Have some @ Home. You want to join us and have some?" Well, after that I told him what jello really was and almost saw Vomet up close!!!! :( You wanna know? It's made of Crushed Animal Bones!!! please tell me what you think of this...

-thatgirlswholovesmusic34


 * Well, I still like jello. Just try to think of it as chemicals.  Innocent little calcium, never hurt anybody, right?  Right.

Wikipedia has an article on Jello. You could not put your comments there, right, because you have no source. Your cousin is *not* a reliable source, sorry. :-) Don't tell them I said that, it will crush their heartstrings like a ton of bricks.  Search engine says:


 * 1)  snopes.com
 * 2)  yahoo.com
 * 3)  wikipedia --  -- not too shabby.  But not the Jello article, that is the Gelatin article.
 * 4)  chacha.com
 * 5)  theurbanshogun.com
 * 6)  peopleforanimalsindia.org
 * 7)  howstuffworks.com

Hey, wikipedia is only number three? That's not right. Let's help fix that. We need to improve the wikipedia article, so we need a reliable source that says jello is made of ground-up animal bones.

Who is WP:RS here? Well, look at it another way. Who is no use to us? Answer.Yahoo.com, your cousin prolly posted that. ChaCha, same problem, anybody can post. TheUrbanShogun? No, sounds like a blog, not reliable.

That leaves Snopes, Wikipedia (woo!), PeopleForAnimalsIndia.org, and HowStuffWorks.

Snopes is prolly reliable, and lucky us, it was the first hit. So we can use that as a source. HowStuffWorks is usually reasonably reliable, so we'll use that too. The more sources the better. No posts from major journalists, or super important scientists, but that's probably okay. Two reasonably good sources is probably good enough.

What about that PeopleForAnimalsIndia.org ? Well... they *might* have good info. It depends on who *they* used for sources (New York Times? their 14-year-old cousin?) But look at their name:  they are biased! They love animals, so they must hate jello, cause it's made of ground-up animals. Can we use them as a source anyway? Maybe... but only if we follow WP:NPOV. Got to be fair. Most people eat animals, after all. PeopleForAnimalsIndia does not deserve WP:UNDUE, which is more than their fair share. But we already have two good sources. So let's write our sentence we want to add to wikipedia.

We have two sources, right? So click on snopes, and click on how stuff works, and find out what they say. Oh, fine, I'm not lazy, I'll do it for us. Here we go:

"JELL-O is made from bones and hides.   --snopes.com"

"Gelatin can come from the collagen in cow or pig bones, hides and connective tissues. Today, the gelatin in Jell-O is most likely to come from pigskin. --howstuffworks.com"

So we just pick which one we like best? *beeeep*  Wrong answer. Cheating. Cannot just copy stuff. No plagiarism. Write your own sentence ... ... if you want it in wikipedia, then cite your sources.

"Most commmonly, gelatin is made from crushed pigskin, but it can also be manufactured from hog bones, cow bones, or cowhide. --moi, with inspiration from thatgirl"

That's a fine sentence. But you can probably fix it up for me at bit further. In particular, we're going to be putting this over in the Jello article, so we better link back to the gelatin one. You put the link-stuff into the sentence. You can see how I did it, for cow bones, right? Okay then. Your turn. Make any other changes you like, too. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 22:10, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * ((copied from another talkpage)) ps. about Gelatin, you really don't have to get technical about this. I wasn't actually saying [ or typing] that my cousin is a reliable " Source".  I was just expressing myself w/ my like's and dislikes.  Thatgirl


 * Sure, I understand. You were telling me something cool.  And I appreciate it, because it is cool.  In return, here is something cool for you:  Jello is actually made from stardust.  And I can prove it. :-)   74.192.84.101 (talk) 05:38, 18 October 2013 (UTC)


 * But rather than just tell me about it, why don't you and I tell *everybody* about it? Or at least, everybody who reads the Jello article on wikipedia.  Which might be hundreds, thousands, millions ... millions if I may say it again ... of people.  If you want to do that, tell thousands or millions of people your cool factoid, a bit of work is required, which is what all that blah-blah stuff I was going on about sources was.  Putting a new sentence into the parts of wikipedia meant for millions of people to see, certainly is a bit harder than chatting with a new friend.  But both of them can be fun.  So, let me put it in the form of a question.  ThatGirl, guess what?  I've got a cool sentence nearly ready to stick into the article on Jello.  It says that Jello is made from the same stuff as footballs!  So my question is, can you help me get it into the article, so that when people are making Jello, and they look up what it really is, they find out The Truth?   (Please say yes :-)   We can get it fixed up in ten minutes, I bet.  Or, if you'd rather chat some more instead, we can do that for awhile, until we figure out what sort of topics you *are* interested in. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 05:38, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

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 * Hello, little robot. You are very silly, I must say.  But your advice is good advice, for thatgirl to learn about how wikipedia works.  Here is a message from me, without four tildes at the end.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.192.84.101 (talk) 04:58, 18 October 2013 (UTC)


 * This is me again, sineBot, you nice little robot. This time I will type &#x7e;&#x7e;&#x7e;&#x7e; myself at the end of my sentence, so that my name and date look nice.  Bye! 74.192.84.101 (talk) 05:41, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Okay, here is our sentence to work on, look for broken links, bad spelling, bad grammar, then click edit and fix it right here
Most commmonly, gelatin is made from crushed pigskin, but it can also be manufactured from hog bones, cow bones, or cowhide.


 * Sentence is above. Look for goofs, then click edit and fix them up.  Leave a comment below with some colons in front when you are finished.  74.192.84.101 (talk) 08:08, 19 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Hint... where is my seplling goof? Find it, and fix it.  Then, I'll teach you how to put in a link to the gelatin-article in our sentence, and we'll decide where our sentence should go in the Jello article, and then put it in.  Prolly some people that watch that article will argue with us about it.  Jello is not really made of footballs!  That's what they'll say.  But we've got the proof, our sources back us up 100%, they have to find better sources, or let us do it.  :-)   &mdash; 74.192.84.101 (talk) 17:57, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

what music exactly?
You still have not told me what music you like. After the jello thing, that is what we will probably do next: look for some music-related articles, and try our hand at making them cooler. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 21:52, 19 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I like All Music... Except hard rock. Thatgirl-   User_talk:Thatgirlswholovesmusic34 21:13, 20 October 2013 (UTC)    ((formatting fixed by 74, click edit to see what it looks like now))


 * Cool. So, do you &hearts; &hearts; &hearts; Justin Bieber?  There is another beginning editor named Monica who is trying to edit his article, and having trouble coming up with sources for the sentence she wants to get into it.  You want to help us work on that?  p.s.  Reply to me here, and look  what I'm doing with the colons.  Add a new colon in front every time, see?  And instead of typing Thatgirl at the end, you can type &#x7E;&#x7E;&#x7E;&#x7E; (look over by the Q-key on your keyboard... if you are using a PC... or do you have a tablet?) and the computer will magically put your name in for you. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 17:54, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

I just came to say hello! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.87.112.51 (talk) 23:35, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello 108.87.112.51, Sorry, but I do not like Justin Beiber. If I got a different look at JB. MAybe I would feel different about him. My old BFF would always talk about him. ALWAYS! and would swear that one day she would be MRS. BEIBER. And every time we picked her up so we could go somewhere. She would bring her JUSTIN BEIBER Cd. So I did not exactly get to know his music because My friend would annoy me to death with him..... But I like Demi Lovato, Taylor Swift, MAroon 5, Bridget Mendler , Steven Curtis chapman, Ross Lynch , R5 , Eddie Rabbit , Billy Joel , Weird al Yankovich , and Queen.

- Thatgirl :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thatgirlwholovesmusic (talk • contribs) 23:54, 20 April 2014 (UTC) I would love to help you! -thatgril  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thatgirlwholovesmusic (talk • contribs) 14:34, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm having trouble....
Hello fellow wikipedians. I need some help. When I check my email and it says that somebody sent me a message on Wikipedia I click it, but then it brings me to my homepage... and I cannot find the message

-Thatgirlwholovesmusic.

ps. U can call me Thatgirl — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thatgirlwholovesmusic (talk • contribs) 23:48, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Jello re-do
[I AM GOING TO DESCRIBE JELLO BETTER THIS TIME.]

Gelatin is made out of Cow hide, Animal bones, and more. Many people think they are boiled. Gelatin was created by Mary Wait and Rose knox. madehow.com indeed says that Gelatin, or "The Bones" before made into fun Jell-O is IN FACT boiled. Animal bones, skins, and tissue are obtained from slaughterhouses. Gelatin processing plants are usually located nearby so that these animal byproducts can be quickly processed.

Acids and alkalines such as caustic lime or sodium carbonate are used to extract minerals and bacteria from the animal parts. They are either produced in the food processing plant or purchased from outside vendors.

Sweeteners, flavorings, and colorings are added in the preparation of food gelatin. These can be in liquid or powdered forms and are purchased from outside vendors.

-Thatgirlwholovesmusic (talk) 14:41, 21 April 2014 (UTC)