User talk:The359/Archive 2

Message of talkpage
OK, will do. Davnel03 06:56, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, maybe I should slow it down and not make "big" edits. Maybe I shouldn't of created the new Benoit page. Davnel03 10:07, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I left Davnel03 a note. I think your analysis is spot on. Spartaz Humbug! 06:52, 9 July 2007 (UTC)


 * If you want to withdraw 2007 French Grand Prix as a GA-nominee, do so. Sorry if my edits have been not discussed. At least I know in the future to discuss it on the taplkages of the relevant article. Davnel03 09:19, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Nissan R90C
I have done what I can to get this page can be nominated for DYK, which you can see it there, let me know what do you think and feel free to make any further edits. Also to point out, according to the book Lightning Speed: The Nissan GTP and Group C Racecars by John Starkey, it indicated that the car was built in-house (page 96). Willirennen 19:33, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You are right, just got out another book by Starkey called Lola: All the sport racing & single seater racing cars 1978 to 1997 refers the car as T90/30. Willirennen 19:46, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Another thing I didn't realise that, the T90/30 is really a F1 car, the Starkey book called it Lola 90. As my original edit was considered too long, which I had since made a reduced edit, also trouble is because of the time zone, I did not realise that your nomination was put in place the day before, therefore on my PC, it reads 04:16, 20 July 2007 for the article creation date. As a result, it wouldn't also matter to me which one is put up as I am prepared to withdraw my entry. Although I am prepared to withdraw my nomination as I am allowing the DYK people to decide, differences of the two nomination is, judging from past experience, for mine both nominator and creator can be given each a DYK. BTW,judging by the large roof behind, the photo is from the 2006 event as I was there...I think I am still prepared to withdraw mine as I have been told mine is too long and still struggling to reduce it. Willirennen 21:11, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Just had a read at the book and it says that the NPTI cars had the 3 liters to be allowed to run in the GTP category, but the Japanese team, using their R91CP, plus the From A team (Nova Engineering) came in Group C trim. The book does not in any way mention about whether its a V6 or a V8 or gives any chassis details about the R91C and R92C. Willirennen 01:57, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Honda RC100 Plagiarism
Note accepted, I didn't copy any of it directly from it but based it loosely on it. It's hard to write an article on something with so little fact. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Re: Manipe F1
Thank you for your message dated August 10. I would like to state to you that, like all good Wikipedians, I add a source (if applicable) to all new information that I add to Wikipedia, and occasionally, I update information on wikipedia once it is confirmed officially, unless of course it has already been changed on the relavant article. In these cases, I have no option but to add Manipe F1 as the source, since the response time from announcement to press is quite often shorter than any other rival websites, when it comes to press releases issued away from the circuit. I have no objection whatsoever to other Wikipedians changing those Manipe F1 news sources to other websites, which other people may call more 'reliable', wheras in fact, what they are referring to is that particular website's popularity or geographical reach, something which can be quite hard to come by for a non-profit organisation without any real opportunities to grow within a short space of time.

I invite you to look through all F1 articles that contain links to Manipe F1 news articles and where the information provided in the Manipe F1 news article does not meet your requirements or standards, I request that you contact me through the 'Contact us' link at the top of all Manipe F1 pages, and raise those concerns to me in an official capacity. Manipe F1 deals with complaints like any other business - with the utmost concern and interest. Even if you consider the Manipe F1 articles up to standard, but still believe that the 'conflict of interest' you mention exists, then by all means, do alter the source. However, I am confident that all Manipe F1 news articles are of the standard required and contain the accuracy necessary to be worthy of being a source in any Wikipedia article.

If you have any other concerns regarding any aspect of Manipe F1, I urge you to contact me through www.manipef1.com, or if you have any further concerns relating to Wikipedia, to contact me through the usual method here.

Regards, Manipe 21:43, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

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AfD nomination of 2007 1000km of Monza
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re:WP:Automobiles banner
Hmm, yes. The articles were tagged because they had a stub tag (autoracing-stub). That puts them in Category:Auto racing stubs which is a sub-category of Category:Automobile stubs. I'll change the settings so it doesn't tag any more motorsport articles. I started a section on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles that is related & you might like to check it out. Thanks for notifying me of the error, I'll make sure it's only road car articles until the matter is decided. Thanks, James086 Talk &#124;  Email 12:09, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

re:Tuscan Challenge/SCR
I am happy to accept this in therefore I already listed it on the WPSCR's DYK list. For its part in the BPR series, now that was something I didn't know about, if you know more about its GT history feel free to add them in as I was bred to think about them in its own one-make series. Willirennen 23:03, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

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2008 formula one season
Ok so your the one who took out my F1 2008 editing. But I put a reference. Ok it wasn't from a wbsite but it is still a reference. In that hidden comment it didn't say anything about that it must be a website reference.

PS hopefully BMW Sauber can get a podium and Super Aguri get points in Italy

Pattav2 06:47, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Renault images
Thanks! Those are great, I'll upload when I get the chance. You are right about it being the A443. In the absence of an A442 to compare it to, the lack of perforations in the panel inside the side NACA ducts gives at away. That and the livery/race number, but of course these can change! Last year both types turned up, but the only photos I found of that event were all rights reserved. As for the older F1 cars, I reckon that they are: RS01, the first turbo F1 car; RE40, Prost's last Renault; another RE40, this time Eddie Cheever's car; Lotus 97T. Nice spot!  Pyrope  08:53, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Arnold, Victoria
May I aske why You deleted the infomation I added on the Arnold, Victoria article? Muitint78 02:33, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I saw that the reason that you deleted the info on the page is becouse "(A non-notable racing team of which we do not even have an article on is not really worth mentioning in an article about a town.)" Well the Racing Team is a massive part of the town.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Muitint78 (talk • contribs) 02:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

re:Eagle MkI
Hi, just to shed some lights about the Eagle Mk. I, I never heard of it until I took hold of the Prototypes book by Ken Wells and J.A. Martin when I got the book back in early 2001. Although it isn't much heard of car as only one was built in 1985 as a development car by Eagle when they were racing the Celicas, that car was wrecked by its driver, Dennis Aase on its 4th development run a year later and it was never rebuilt. I tried to shed some light about the car when I met Aase at the Festival of Speed when he was driving that Celica and he told me some stuff about the car which I am trying to remember what he said, he said something like that they didn't feel ready with the GTP program. Also there is this link of his webpage which describes it as a Toyota MK. 1. Willirennen 18:29, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

1927 24 Hours of Le Mans
Thanks for doing all that. It's great, I go away and cook myself a spot of dinner, and when I come back all the loose ends are tidied away for me! Cheers!  Pyrop e  20:35, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

1985 IMSA article
Hi. Maybe I am missing something, but I can't see the point of this page, unless you are uploading a good deal of info later. For instance, who were the placegetters in the Lumbermens 500k? Moriori 08:06, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

2008 Formula One Season
You are ignoring the editing history - I said that all chassis were confirmed on manipe! Stop keeping reverting or you would be seen as vandalism. Raymond Giggs 09:53, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

MP4-23
Hi. Might I suggest that the edit summary "Redirecting to McLaren: We are not here to "predict" about future F1 cars which DO NOT EXIST YET. Do not do this again.) " is a bit heavy handed?? Also what's the problem? What was the article "predicting"? Tim Goss is the chief designer, the car title is correct, it will be powered by the same Mercedes engine as this season, will use Mobil 1 fuel and oil, will use Bridgestone tyres, will be driven by Alonso/Hamilton (according to current contracts). The only assumptions I can see are chassis/suspension. Mark83 23:50, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Totally agree with that. If you check McLaren Mercedes website and circuit bookings for the following months you will see that this car is a reality, not only a prediction. No need to be this rough without a reason. Rbanzano 19:20, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Robert Lechner
No, they're not the same Lechner. I was surprised to find out about that one though. Since I'd seen a linked Robert Lechner in one sportscar racing table, I assumed somebody had written a page, but never imaged it could refer to a German cyclist instead of the Austrian driver I know. --Pc13 08:32, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

DO NOT
DO NOT EVER EVER CONTACT ME. EVER EVER! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.230.106.113 (talk) 05:50, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes I thought the user's behaviour was pretty odd.
Especially when he showed up on my talk page (see here) and gave me a huge list of articles to create. Not knowing many of the names, I was pretty baffled and bewildered. Of course, if he really wants me to create them, I will see what I can do. I'm sure we all would rather he create an account, instead of yell requests to others, though. Wilhelmina Will 21:23, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

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WHO R U? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.230.106.113 (talk) 05:18, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

they are not doing the work for him. why the hell should i create account. there are no benefits in doing so none at all they are just notable pages that should be created instead of the thousands of non-notable ones what is blocking gonna do all it does is make trashier & shittier why do u think more and more of academia bans wiki references in their papers if you cite a wiki reference you get an automatic failing grade on college papers more people are realizing that wiki is utter trash it is true that wiki long ago turned into a joke whenever people cite wiki they always mention that fact that it probably isnt reliable people don't take wiki seriously and that is a great thing wiki is utter trash at least you have the crappy & talentless Jean Passanante as a avid fan! LOL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.230.106.113 (talk) 06:50, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

i never never never never demanded that a particular person create NOTABLE pgs NOTABLE pgs that are not created were presented by me in hopes of creation like Susan Strickler, Darin Goldberg, Robin Burger and a large portion of pgs on CBS Daytime & ABC Daytime why is this so-called encyclopedia filled with non-notable crap? the pages that should be in existence are about NOTABLE things/people/characters there is no good reason to create an account no good reason at all —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.230.106.113 (talk) 07:12, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

are u the ultimate ruler of wiki i will never ever ever never ever ever create an account having a long term career being nominated and winning several awards and being a part of Yahoo Search is being notable look at the number of hits Michele Val Jean gets yfa —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.230.106.113 (talk) 07:27, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

re:Le Mans Prototype
Trouble is the not so notable cars was sourced from that French language site about WSC cars and from WSPR site. Considering I'm not good at downsizing articles (or lists), I wouldn't mind if this gets pruned down (by somebody else) but would it be a good idea if there is a separate list the LMP cars (List of Le Mans Prototype cars) and Gr Cs (List of Group C cars), as for the latter, I own an Ian Briggs book titled "Endurance Racing 1982-1991" which could be a useful source. What do you think of this idea. Willirennen 19:07, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I like the reformatted list, easy to follow but there's some thing apart from one spelling error on one particular Italian. I think the info should be kept to technical stuff such as which car it was based on rather than its successes which can be documented on its own page. On the Kudzu bit, would it be a good idea to cut out this bit, as it is a little bit excessive info wise...Wayne Taylor 1994 IMSA WSC Driver's Champion, 7th overall Le Mans 1995, also the bit about 2 Audis, not sure if we need the info as there have their own article highlighting its successes. I don't know if the Kremer counts as it is missing on the list and as for the K8... Also to point out from the last post, that French site which the cars listed was sourced from is Sportscar Universe. Willirennen (talk) 21:18, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it might be worth mentioning that if as long as these cars have been through its testing stage (and proved that it did exist like the Porsche LMP) and what is worth doing is having these entries sourced from these articles, which I should had done. One car I was going to list is the Lindsay LMP 675, although I don't know its history (or seen it in a race) and only have vague memories of that car at Goodwood FoS 2001 but it is listed in their program. I would recommend leaving out cars that have never been past the testing stage (in that case, never been tested as that would leave out the Porsche LMP). Willirennen (talk) 21:50, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * This is what I wanted to go for, the completed cars. Willirennen (talk) 22:08, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Just want to comment further, considering many of these articles have photos of the cars, what do you think of having a mini picture of each cars on the right of each lists. Willirennen 14:50, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Request for comment
Hi The359, thanks for your feedback on the AVUS image on WP:MOTOR. There is now a third version of the image available, and I would appreciate your feedback. You can vote here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Motorsport Guroadrunner (talk) 06:51, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Reiter Engineering Picture ADAC GT Masters
Hi The359, I am quit sure that this picture can be posted on wikipedia... I work for Reiter Engineering and it can be posted here and by the way - thank you very much for "creating a real good" wiki-page after my short first try..

So it would be nice- if you can add the picture again. Will get also a big and better picture of the R-GT, so it can be used instead of the "all-ink-R-GT" - All-Ink is an own Racing-Team now, which of course uses a Reiter Lambo, but on the racing track - they are competitors".

Alex Reinhardt - www.sevenfivemedia.de

RAC Tourist Trophy
I got most of JCW's biography from the FIA GT official site (a Dunlop newsletter makes identical career claims). In 1999, he was British Champion with 7 wins, but a trip to WSRP doesn't show Campbell-Walter winning anything called "Tourist Trophy". The opening round of the series was called "Microprose Silverstone Spring Trophy", which might have been that (sponsorship covering the name of the event?) but he was only third anyway. He won two events in Donington Park that year, but WSRP doesn't have event names for those, and they were the national circuit. He also won at Croft and Snetterton, but those tracks wouldn't host the Trophy Tourist, and the "Midsummer GT Weekend" in Brands Hatch. I visited the old RacingCircuits.net in Archive.org, and it corroborates your assertion that the 2h30 was the Tourist Trophy. However, WSRP calls the Donington 2h30 "The Very Fast Show". What Campbell-Walter was claiming to have won, I can't imagine. To complicate matters, this page in the BRDC site claims David Warnock and Mike Jordan won the Tourist Trophy in 2001. --Pc13 (talk) 10:06, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Just letting you know that I've done the tables for the first four rounds of the 1998 FIA GT season in my sandbox, if you're thinking of starting those pages. --Pc13 (talk) 00:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

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Consumating
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