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GOCE June 2021 newsletter
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Administrators' newsletter – July 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2021).

Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * Consensus has been reached to delete all books in the book namespace. There was rough consensus that the deleted books should still be available on request at WP:REFUND even after the namespace is removed.
 * An RfC is open to discuss the next steps following a trial which automatically applied pending changes to TFAs.

Technical news
 * IP addresses of unregistered users are to be hidden from everyone. There is a rough draft of how IP addresses may be shown to users who need to see them. This currently details allowing administrators, checkusers, stewards and those with a new usergroup to view the full IP address of unregistered users. Editors with at least 500 edits and an account over a year old will be able to see all but the end of the IP address in the proposal. The ability to see the IP addresses hidden behind the mask would be dependent on agreeing to not share the parts of the IP address they can see with those who do not have access to the same information. Accessing part of or the full IP address of a masked editor would also be logged. Comments on the draft are being welcomed at the talk page.

Arbitration
 * The community authorised COVID-19 general sanctions have been superseded by the COVID-19 discretionary sanctions following a motion at a case request. Alerts given and sanctions placed under the community authorised general sanctions are now considered alerts for and sanctions under the new discretionary sanctions.

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ArchiveSent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:27, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for participating in my RFA
Thanks for your early support and trust. The process turned out to be a very welcoming one as opposed to my last try. If I can be helpful in your work, or if you see me make an error, please feel free to call on me. I can't and wouldn't do any of this by myself. BusterD (talk) 21:10, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , Hey! No Problem. I'm glad the RFA and everything went well! I'll be sure to ask you if I need any help, or if I see you make an error! Best, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (Talk) (Contributions) 22:28, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2021).

Administrator changes
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CheckUser changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * An RfC is open to add a delay of one week from nomination to deletion for G13 speedy deletions.

Technical news
 * Last week all wikis were very slow or not accessible for 30 minutes. This was due to server lag caused by regenerating dynamic lists on the Russian Wikinews after a large bulk import.

Arbitration
 * Following an amendment request, the committee has clarified that the Talk page exception to the 500/30 rule in remedy 5 of the Palestine-Israel articles 4 case does not apply to requested move discussions.

Miscellaneous
 * You can vote for candidates in the 2021 Board of Trustees elections from 4 August to 17 August. Four community elected seats are up for election.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:19, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Dixon Reservoir (Escondido)
Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Dixon Reservoir (Escondido) has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

An article's lede normally does not contain citations unless there is a statement included in it that is contentious or been the subject of much debate. With this in mind, I moved the citations in the lede's first paragraph into the body of the article and deleted them from the lede.

Information included in the lede must also appear in the body of the article. Most of the information in the lede's second paragraph is not included in the main article. You should incorporate this information into the article with the citations and then delete the citations from the lede.

Best of luck with the GA nomination if you decide to move ahead.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 18:47, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2021).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Jake Wartenberg
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Emperor • Viridian Bovary
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Guideline and policy news
 * Feedback is requested on the Universal Code of Conduct enforcement draft by the Universal Code of Conduct Phase 2 drafting committee.
 * A RfC is open on whether to allow administrators to use extended confirmed protection on high-risk templates.
 * A discussion is open to decide when, if ever, should discord logs be eligible for removal when posted onwiki (including whether to oversight them)
 * A RfC on the next steps after the trial of pending changes on TFAs has resulted in a 30 day trial of automatic semi protection for TFAs.

Technical news
 * The Score extension has been re-enabled on public wikis. It has been updated, but has been placed in safe mode to address unresolved security issues. Further information on the security issues can be found on the mediawiki page.

Arbitration
 * A request for comment is in progress to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the Arbitration Committee election and resolve any issues not covered by existing rules. Comments and new proposals are welcome.

Miscellaneous
 * The 2021 RfA review is now open for comments.

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September 2021 Guild of Copy Editors newsletter
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Administrators' newsletter – October 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2021).

Administrator changes
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Oversighter changes
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Interface administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * Following an RfC, extended confirmed protection may be used preemptively on certain high-risk templates.
 * Following a discussion at the Village Pump, there is consensus to treat discord logs the same as IRC logs. This means that discord logs will be oversighted if posted onwiki.

Technical news
 * DiscussionTools has superseded Enterprisey's reply-link script. Editors may switch using the "Discussion tools" checkbox under.

Arbitration
 * A motion has standardised the 500/30 (extended confirmed) restrictions placed by the Arbitration Committee. The standardised restriction is now listed in the Arbitration Committee's procedures.
 * Following the closure of the Iranian politics case, standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, post-1978 Iranian politics, broadly construed.
 * The Arbitration Committee encourages uninvolved administrators to use the discretionary sanctions procedure in topic areas where it is authorised to facilitate consensus in RfCs. This includes, but is not limited to, enforcing sectioned comments, word/diff limits and moratoriums on a particular topic from being brought in an RfC for up to a year.

Miscellaneous
 * Editors have approved expanding the trial of Growth Features from 2% of new accounts to 25%, and the share of newcomers getting mentorship from 2% to 5%. Experienced editors are invited to add themselves to the mentor list.
 * The community consultation phase of the 2021 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process is open for editors to provide comments and ask questions to candidates.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:05, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

REFACTORING POSTS
Why did you remove posts of mine without explanation?Slatersteven (talk) 15:15, 24 October 2021 (UTC)


 * @Slatersteven That's quite odd, must of been a misclick, sorry. Best, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (Talk) (Contributions) 20:18, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – November 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2021).

Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * Phase 2 of the 2021 RfA review has commenced which will discuss potential solutions to address the 8 issues found in Phase 1. Proposed solutions that achieve consensus will be implemented and you may propose solutions till 07 November 2021.

Technical news
 * Toolhub is a catalogue of tools which can be used on Wikimedia wikis. It is at https://toolhub.wikimedia.org/.

Arbitration
 * , and  have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2021 Arbitration Committee Elections.  and  are reserve commissioners.
 * Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves to stand in the 2021 Arbitration Committee elections from 07 November 2021 until 16 November 2021.

Miscellaneous
 * The 2021 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process has concluded with the appointment of five new CheckUsers and two new Oversighters.

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2021).



Administrator changes
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Technical news
 * Unregistered editors using the mobile website are now able to receive notices to indicate they have talk page messages. The notice looks similar to what is already present on desktop, and will be displayed on when viewing any page except mainspace and when editing any page.
 * The limit on the number of emails a user can send per day has been made global instead of per-wiki to help prevent abuse.

Arbitration
 * Voting in the 2021 Arbitration Committee Elections is open until 23:59, 06 December 2021 (UTC).
 * The already authorized standard discretionary sanctions for all pages relating to the Horn of Africa (defined as including Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti, and adjoining areas if involved in related disputes), broadly construed, have been made permanent.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:25, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

December 2021 GOCE Newsletter
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Thanks for visiting the Guest Room!
I hope you enjoyed your stay in my Guest Room. Here is an ice-cold soda as a thank you, complimentary. Visiting my Guest Room also means you've gained a new talk page watcher! –– FormalDude  talk 06:07, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Spectre DAO Feedback
Hey 4,

I am getting acquainted with Wikipedia contributions and I wanted to contribute projects in the decentralized finance realm, more specifically defi 2.0. I want to know what I can do to fix my article so I can continue to upload content and post information on that can help educate our viewers in an area very little know a lot about.

Looking forward to your feedback! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roaring30s (talk • contribs) 01:55, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * @Roaring30s Hey! The main problem I'm seeing with your article is that its not supported by Reliable Sources. The only source I'm seeing is from the company itself which isn't allowed and isn't considered a reliable source. You should look for trusted sources of info like the NYT, WSJ, US.GOV pages. Read the page I linked for info on reliable sources. Good luck fixing your article and happy editing! Best, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (Talk) (Contributions) 15:31, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

2020–21 United States election protests
Hey, I was in the middle of checking those diffs but got an edit conflict and saw you'd removed the rest saying the CV was gone. Were you talking about my edits to the page? Because I wasn't done removing stuff, and I was finding plenty. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 16:53, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I checked I found cv in past diffs but not in the current. Feel free to rv if I'm wrong. Best, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (Talk) (Contributions) 16:56, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Were you checking manually or just hitting Earwig? I find it doesn't do well on big pages with lots of sources and small copyvios from each. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 16:57, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * @Premeditated Chaos Both, but sometimes not on the same page. That could be why. Again feel free rv and recheck them. I'll help you if you want. Best. Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (Talk) (Contributions) 16:59, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reverting, I'm going to just quickly check the rest :) &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 17:02, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * @Premeditated Chaos Np, ping me when you're done so I can close it. Any other CCI you need help in, or would recommend I do? Thanks and Best, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (Talk) (Contributions) 17:05, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Mmmmmmmmm nothing specific, I usually surf Firefly's tool to see what's close to done and plink away at that. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 17:24, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

 * @CAPTAIN RAJU Thanks! Merry Christmas to you too! Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (Talk) (Contributions) 19:16, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia copyright and original research policy
Hello there, I'm an editor whose addition to People's Liberation Army Navy Surface Force was recently removed because of copyright violation. I'm looking for guidance on how to better edit Chinese military-related pages, especially around citation, original research, and now copyright.

I would really like to contribute, but I've been referred to pages about the importance of not doing original research and including citation when adding a revision, so I'm under the impression that I should just put the article's content on the page and cite the article so it's not considered original research. Is there anything I'm missing here?

Also, from my experience, Chinese military-related pages, in general, have a big citation problem as a lot of the information in there isn't cited/the citations are coming from unreliable sources.

At the same time, some cited content has problems with its factual reliability, even though it is citing generally accepted as reliable sources (as AFAIK there isn't a definitive list of reliable sources for Wikipedia).

So... more questions.

Do we have to remove the uncited content and/or content with unreliable source citation?

If a generally accepted as reliable source consistently make factual mistakes, does it disqualify that source from being generally accepted as reliable?

Thanks for the clarification in advance - TypingTyper (talk) 19:38, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * @TypingTyper When you cite the article, make sure its reliable. If you can't find a reliable source for the unsourced/unreliable content, yes feel free to remove it. If a source makes constant mistakes, it would probably be unreliable. If you think a source made a mistake, then don't use it and find another. If all the sources say the same thing and you think its wrong, then there is nothing you can do about it. Also for reliability, I recommend looking at this list for the reliability of the biggest sources. If you still have a question, feel free to ask. Best, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (Talk) (Contributions) 00:50, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

I have another question. Is it okay to paraphrase and cite copyrighted content found on reliable sources like Janes? I'm completely unsure of what's permitted and what isn't on this paraphrase and citation issue. TypingTyper (talk) 10:14, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * @TypingTyper Try to put it in your own words if you can, but if you paraphrase, don't paraphrase too closely as that could be considered copyright and be removed. Best, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (Talk) (Contributions) 15:10, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!
Happy Holidays text.png Hello The4lines: Enjoy the holiday season&#32;and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:05, 22 December 2021 (UTC) Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:05, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * @MrLinkinPark333 Thanks! I wish you Happy Holidays as well! Best, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (Talk) (Contributions) 21:08, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

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Happy New Year!




 The4lines , Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:50, 31 December 2021 (UTC)


 * – Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year}} to user talk pages.
 * @CAPTAIN RAJU Thanks! Happy New Year you as well! :) Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (Talk) (Contributions) 03:08, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2021).

Administrator changes
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Interface administrator changes
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CheckUser changes
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 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Opabinia regalis
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Casliber • David Fuchs • Newyorkbrad • SoWhy

Oversighter changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Cabayi • Donald Albury • Enterprisey • Izno • Wugapodes
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Guideline and policy news


 * Following consensus at the 2021 RfA review, the autopatrolled user right has been removed from the administrators user group; admins can grant themselves the autopatrolled permission if they wish to remain autopatrolled.


 * Additionally, consensus for proposal 6C of the 2021 RfA review has led to the creation of an administrative action review process. The purpose of this process will be to review individual administrator actions and individual actions taken by users holding advanced permissions.

Arbitration


 * Following the 2021 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee:, , , , , , ,.

Miscellaneous


 * The functionaries email list () will no longer accept incoming emails apart from those sent by list members and WMF staff. Private concerns, apart from those requiring oversight, should be directly sent to the Arbitration Committee.

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Your GA nomination of Deep Blue (chess computer)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Deep Blue (chess computer) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Bwoodcock -- Bwoodcock (talk) 03:40, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Deep Blue (chess computer)
The article Deep Blue (chess computer) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Deep Blue (chess computer) for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Bwoodcock -- Bwoodcock (talk) 04:00, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Deep Blue (chess computer)
The article Deep Blue (chess computer) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Deep Blue (chess computer) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Bwoodcock -- Bwoodcock (talk) 18:21, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Quarter Million Award
Thanks for your work on this vital article! – Reidgreg (talk) 14:16, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Looks like you need help
I saw you on Wikimedia discord asking for help at Saturn V. Looks like my GA at SpaceX Starship is sufficient, so feel free to ask me anything! (I know nothing) CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 07:08, 13 January 2022 (UTC)


 * @CactiStaccingCrane Responded on discord. Thanks for your willingness to help. Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (Talk) (Contributions) 15:09, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Deep Blue (chess computer)
Hello! Your submission of Deep Blue (chess computer) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!

DYK for Deep Blue (chess computer)
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