User talk:The8thbit/Archived Stuff

Welcome
Hi, The8thbit. This is NOT some automated message...it's from a real person. You can talk to me right now. Welcome to Wikipedia! I noticed you've just joined, and wanted to give you a few tips to get you started. If you have any questions, please talk to us. The tips below should help you to get started. Best of luck!   Chzz  ►  06:29, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
 Chzz  ►  17:00, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

List of atheists (science and technology)
Please stop edit warring on List of atheists (science and technology). Continued reversion will result in the page being protected from editing until the dispute can be resolved. --Closedmouth (talk) 10:35, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

File source problem with File:Happyface wallpaper.png
Thanks for uploading File:Happyface wallpaper.png. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, their copyright should also be acknowledged.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 09:09, 16 August 2009 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.  F ASTILY  (T ALK ) 09:09, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Re:happyface_wallpaper.png
Hi The8thbit. Wow...this is complicated. Basically what you have here is a Derivative work (see here). Now NASA owns the copyright to the original image, but all images taken by NASA are automatically released into the public domain. You say that the image was uploaded to 4chan by a user of that site who modified the image by adding an awesome face to the file. And then afterward, you made some changes to the file. Following the policies of usage of derivative works on Wikipedia and Commons, all 3 copyright holders (you included) must consent to releasing image. NASA's and your hold on the copyright will most likely not be an issue (assuming you are willing to allow the image to be published on Wikipedia and possibly elsewhere), however, the user who modified NASA's image and uploaded the new image to 4chan will also have to give consent. Given the clandestine manner in which 4chan operates, I doubt you will be able to contact that user, let alone get their consent for usage of the image on Wikipedia (assuming you make contact with the user, you would then have to go through the WP:OTRS process to verify the user's consent). My recommendation is that you simply request that the image be deleted. Derivative works like so are much more trouble than they are worth. Best,  F ASTILY  (T ALK ) 04:10, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Happyface wallpaper.png
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Happyface wallpaper.png, has been listed at Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. --DreamGuy (talk) 13:22, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

How do you explain Einstein unequivocally stating "I'm not an atheist"?
Just curious. 67.135.49.116 (talk) 16:12, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."

[Albert Einstein, 1954, from "Albert Einstein: The Human Side", edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University Press] This is not Einstein's way of saying he did not believe in any god, but that he did not believe in a personal God.

Stop reading the quotes in the light of what you want them to say and read them in the light of what they actually say. 67.135.49.116 (talk) 20:28, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

If Einstein didn't outright describe himself as a "naturalistic pantheist," using a quote to prove he supposedly was one violates WP:SYNTH. In fact, Einstein said he didn't think he could call himself a pantheist. 67.135.49.116 (talk) 16:43, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

"Non-theist" is not synonymous with "atheist." Buddhists are non-theists, but they certainly could never be described as atheists. "Non-theist" is a term that can include atheists, but to argue that the two terms are synonymous is logically fallacious. Think of it this way: all atheists are non-theists, but not all non-theists are atheists.

That being clarified, I must return to Einstein's own words. He stated he didn't think he could be called a pantheist despite his statement about Spinoza's god and he adamantly rejected any and all attempts to associate him with atheism. Wikipedia prefers a person's own definition of who and what they are over one editor's or another's interpretation of a person's unclear, non-specific statements. To provide another illustration, this is why people like Midge Potts are considered women on Wikipedia despite never actually have gone through sex-change operations. A doctor would call Potts a man, but Potts has assumed a female identity and is thus considered a female on Wikipedia no matter what any editor says. 67.135.49.116 (talk) 21:26, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

How Many Active Users
 Chzz  ►  04:20, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Icon gnu automake image 1.png listed for deletion
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:Icon gnu automake image 1.png, has been listed at Files for deletion. Please see the to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. OsamaKReply? on my talk page, please 13:57, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Sagan and the List of nontheists
Hello. Some time in the past few months, you've contributed to a discussion about whether Sagan should be included in the List of nontheists. I'm taking a straw poll to see where people are at currently with regard to this issue. Your input on the matter would be very helpful. Please see the discussion here to contribute your viewpoint. Thanks! Nick Graves (talk) 23:53, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Edward Frenkel


The article Edward Frenkel has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Does not meet WP:PROF

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing  will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. RadioFan (talk) 15:32, 24 January 2010 (UTC)