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Arthur Kemp
If you wanted to renominate for AFD, you don't do it by overwriting a previous nomination. I'll make nomination #3 for you. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 20:56, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

About Arthur Kemp and Articles for deletion/Arthur Kemp (3rd nomination)
Hi TheFallenCrowd,

I don't understand what you are doing with this article. The AfD was closed without a consensus to delete, but you appear to be gradually removing sourced content. What's going on?

--Shirt58 (talk) 09:32, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I have made an entry on the article's talk page for you to read. In a nutshell, the subject meets none of the Wikipedia notability guidelines, and this was agreed by all in the AFD 3 discussion.TheFallenCrowd (talk) 10:56, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reply. I would suggest that you please re-read Articles for deletion/Arthur Kemp (3rd nomination).  Thank you again. --Shirt58 (talk) 13:12, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I have read it, actually I wrote most of it, if you look closely. Everyone there agreed that the subject was non-notifiable according to Wikipedia guidelines. That is undisputed and the vast majority of users voted for deletion. The only thing which was not agreed upon was what should replace the article, if anything.TheFallenCrowd (talk) 13:17, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

August 2012
This is your last and only warning. You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize a page, as you did with this edit to Arthur Kemp. 13:18, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

On whose authority do you claim the right to block my editing?

The subject of the article in question meets none of Wikipedia's notability criteria, so why do you object to its editing?TheFallenCrowd (talk) 14:00, 9 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually the AFD discussion did not find that, but I am glad you are finally discussing this on the article Talk page.   14:38, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit-warring at Arthur Kemp
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I have merely tried to bring this article into line with Wikipedia Guidelines, and nothing else. The facts are obvious: the subject is not notable as a politician or as an author, and now you have threatened me with banning for simply trying to adhere to WP guidelines. What is your motivation? Can you supply any reason why this subject is notable as a politician or as an author, or under the General Notability Guidelines? A single reason? I have made an entry on the dispute resolution page to get the opinion of reasonable WP editors to have an input.TheFallenCrowd (talk) 17:04, 9 August 2012 (UTC)


 * The result of the discussion you started about deleting the article did not yield the result you had hoped. You need to stop arguing it in the wrong venues.  Trying to argue it on your talk page or the article talk page or WP:BLPN or by deleting the article content is disruptive.  If you really want to pursue it you can take it to Deletion Review as you were told here.  You appear to be unwilling to accept the consensus result, and I am unwilling to keep repeating the same responses to the same fallacious arguments you keep bringing up.  This is your warning:  Repeatedly going against consensus is considered disruptive editing and can lead to sanctions.    17:20, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

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Nelson Mandela‎
The content is redundant as it's already mentioned in the section I listed. -- Neil N  talk to me  16:03, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for addressing the redundancy. -- Neil N  talk to me  17:03, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

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Why do you want to continually delete the SACP quotation from their journal where they explained Mandela's SACP membership in detail? I am not engaged in any "edit war" -- it is you who are engaged in deliberate political censorship--and don't think people cannot see that. I will restore the section dealing with his SACP membership, and if you delete it again, I will report you to the Wiki staff.TheFallenCrowd (talk) 22:28, 15 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I suggest that before you do, you read WP:NPA, WP:VANDAL, and in particular Help:Edit summary. Edit summaries like this are hardly likely to help your case. I think that rather than accusing all and sundry of 'censorship' you might do better to do as you have been asked, and provide evidence from third-party sources that this news (if that is what it is) of Mandela's sometime membership of the SACP is as significant as you claim. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:47, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * South Africa's largest and most important Business newspaper, Business Day, has reported extensively on this matter over the last few days, and their coverage is already included in the new section on Mandela's Communist party membership. TheFallenCrowd (talk) 15:05, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

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Treblinka
Dear, I'm sorry for reverting your edit on Treblinka, but please read my rationale in talk and if you find the need to ask further questions about the source, I'll be happy to help with whatever I can. All best, Poeticbent talk 23:17, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

April 2014
Please do not add or change content, as you did to Arthur Kemp, without verifying it by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. The text you replaced is not backed by the newspaper article which would need to state it clearly - you seem to be interpreting it. Dougweller (talk) 13:39, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

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 * 'breakthrough' in the Hani investigation on the basis of information provided by Mr Derby-Lewis.” "Suspects held in Hani inquiry: Police confirm plot after five more arrests”, The Independent,

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 * 'breakthrough' in the Hani investigation on the basis of information provided by Mr Derby-Lewis.” "Suspects held in Hani inquiry: Police confirm plot after five more arrests”, The Independent,

Arthur Kemp
You continue to insert material which is not stated in the source, despite being reverted now by 2 editors. Please do not continue to do this - if you are so certain it is backed by the source, go to WP:RSN and see if others agree. Dougweller (talk) 18:22, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

You are incorrect. The article, which can be read by anyone, specifically reports on the arrest of Kemp and three others--and quotes a police spokesman as saying that the arrests were the result of information provided by Derby-Lewis. Please stop vandalizing the quote.


 * You have continued to reinstate this and refused to take this to WP:RSN, which I've now done. Please do not reinsert this without a consensus. In addition, you've labelled good faith edits removing the material as WP:Vandalism, a bad idea. You've been blocked for edit warring before. Dougweller (talk) 08:30, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Ani
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Dougweller (talk) 16:37, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to TheFallenCrowd. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. 4 editors disagree with you - you are clearly editwarring to keep this in. Dougweller (talk) 20:45, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

No, it is you who is clearly editwarring on this. The material you have decided to remove has been in the article for over two years, and you have constantly edited and monitored the article over this period -- and only now, all of a sudden, have you "decided" to remove it, obviously out of a personal political bias. I will raise this with more senior people than yourself.TheFallenCrowd (talk) 21:12, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


 * That's just nonsense. It hadn't occurred to me not to trust the edit until recently. Removing material that misrepresents the source is routine and to call it political simply reflects on your view. Since 3 editors have reverted you and 3 have disagreed with you at RSN (4 separate editors), and a 5th has warned you below that you are edit warring, accusing others of editwarring is simply digging a deeper hole. Dougweller (talk) 05:23, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Final warning
If you revert at Arthur Kemp again without first obtaining consensus for your version I will block your account for edit warring.  Tide  rolls  21:17, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

August 2014
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August 2014
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring and violating the three-revert rule, as you did at Arthur Kemp. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice:. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.  Wifione  Message 11:33, 25 August 2014 (UTC)


 * It's pretty obvious you tried to edit as an IP after you were blocked. It is also misleading to suggest that he wasn't in the UK before he used his ancestry visa as he clearly was. Dougweller (talk) 13:27, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

You are lying. I never used any IP address or logged in from any PC except my own. Where is your proof? How dare you accuse me of such a thing when you have no evidence whatsoever apart from your own obvious political bias?TheFallenCrowd (talk) 15:20, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

You are suspected of sock puppetry, which means that someone suspects you of using multiple Wikipedia accounts for prohibited purposes. Please make yourself familiar with the notes for the suspect, then respond to the evidence at Sockpuppet investigations/TheFallenCrowd. Thank you. Ian.thomson (talk) 17:11, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Per discussion on Administrators Noticeboard/Incidents, you have been blocked
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