User talk:TheFranklinite

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January 2020
Wikipedia is not a web host for storing pages for personal use, unrelated to work for the encyclopaedia, as you appear to have done in the sandbox page you created. JBW (talk) 21:55, 26 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Sorrey, but I am going to use it for Wikpedia. I am particularity interested in Micronations and am testing with maps to detail their positions in geographic regions. If it works out here and isn't a huge waste of my time, I will copy it from a dedicated page here to the Micronational Wiki for use there. Again sorry if this upset you or anyone else that I made something and hadn't yet completed it or noted what is was for. :P --TheFranklinite (talk) 01:35, 27 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Can I get my work back please? --TheFranklinite (talk) 01:38, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I will restore the deleted page if you still want me to after you have read this message, but in order to reduce the risk that you will put a lot of time and work into something which is just going to be deleted again, I will first warn you about a few things.
 * Scarcely any "micronations" come anywhere near to satisfying Wikipedia's notability guidelines, with the result that almost all pages about them get deleted. Many "micronations" are no more than something someone has made up and decided to publicise on the internet. They have fun doing so on blogs and internet forums, and nobody except the kind of people who spend their time on micronation forums and similar web sites ever gets to hear about them. A tiny minority of "micronations" actually get noticed enough to get substantial coverage in significant reliable published sources (not blogs, internet forums, wikis, social network sites, or anything similar) and those few are the subjects of Wikipedia articles. I should think over 99% of all Wikipedia articles on "micronations" that have ever been created have been deleted very soon after being created. Very often that has been frustrating and disheartening for the people who created those articles, some of whom had put quite a lot of work into them.
 * My advice to new editors is that it is best to start by making small improvements to existing articles, rather than creating new articles. That way any mistakes you make will be small ones, and you won't have the discouraging experience of repeatedly seeing hours of work deleted. Gradually, you will get to learn how Wikipedia works, and after a while you will know enough about what is acceptable to be able to write whole new articles without fear that they will be deleted. Over the years I have found that editors who start by making small changes to existing articles and work up from there have a far better chance of having a successful time here than those who jump right into creating new articles from the start.
 * If, despite what I have said above, you still want the page to be restored to do more work on it, let me know. However, just posting a plain message here, as you did last time, is not a good idea, as there is no guarantee that I, or anyone else, will ever see it. (This time, luckily, I checked back here, but I can't always be checking every talk page on which I have ever posted a message on the off chance that there may be an answer waiting for me.) If you want a message to be seen by a particular editor, you can either post to their talk page (in my case click on the "(talk)" link in my signature) or else you can post a message here and "ping" the editor you want to contact, which will send them a notification of your message. There are several ways to "ping" an editor, but one way is as follows. In your message include (or the user name of whatever editor you want to contact) and also make sure you sign your message by including ~. NOTE: Both of those have to be in the same post. It doesn't work if you post the "ping", then realise you forgot the ~, and go back and do that in a second edit. JBW (talk) 18:05, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I saw the page you created as being about some "micronations" in Texas, with names such as "Austria", "Cyprus", and so on. I was unable to find any evidence that any such "micronations" exist. In view of what you have said above, pehaps you were just experimenting to see how to use maps. If so, and if you still wish to continue, I suggest that you give some indication what information about what micronations you do actually intend to provide, as otherwise it will look as though you are just playing around. JBW (talk) 18:05, 27 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Ok, gotcha. As I stated before it was to see if this kind of thing would work on the Micronations Wiki I had mentioned. Austria and Cyprus were just European nations and arms used as place holders, because as you said, many micronations don't get their pages and related graphics left up for a noticeable amount of time.
 * With that said, I would like the sandbox back for 24 hours, after I get what I did copied and transferred to the proper place, the page will be blanked and I wont mess with anything besides something more attributable. Yes, I was "playing around" and used Texas as a base plate. Hope it wasn't too much of a bother. Thanks for the info. --TheFranklinite (talk) 01:04, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, I have restored the deleted page. Recover the content you want, and it can then be removed. JBW (talk) 15:29, 28 January 2020 (UTC)