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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 16
 News and updates associated with user scripts from the past two months (May and June 2020).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 16th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Scripts Submit your new/improved script here
 * Cscr-featured.svg Ed6767's redwarn is this month's featured script


 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Enterprisey: abusefilter-diff-check* abusefilter-hide-search* live-reload* quick-vand-block*
 * abusefilter-mass-test* simple-notifs* User:Enterprisey/rc-thanks
 * DannyS712's RemindMe* Majavah's Aligner
 * BrandonXLF: ShowUserGender* ReferenceExpander
 * Awesome Aasim: oneclickdelete* noeditredlinks.js* editrequest
 * TheTVExpert: searchForSection* scriptDocumentationTabs
 * Alex 21: script-categoriessort.js* script-imageres.js
 * Ed6767's redwarn


 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Twinkle released new features, including a rollback links on history pages and Special:Recentchanges,
 * the ability to rollback-in-place on Recent changes and Contributions, a new option autoselect warning
 * level, and an XfD log. (Enable in your prefences; See full list of changes)
 * Headbomb's unreliable source detector script now allows users to add their own custom rules. See the documentation at User:Headbomb/unreliable.

Open tasks
 * Recent changes to the vector skin may have broken some scripts and gadgets. Uses of the  selector
 * should be replaced with . Additionally,   should be replaced with , and
 * should be replaced with . See T255718 and T254797 for more.

Pending requests
 * A script to simplify the process of nominating articles for good article reassessment (request)
 * A script to help create navboxes (request)
 * ...and many more, all available at User scripts/Requests



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Snoopy's Christmas
How is piping redirects classified as vandalism? -- 68.163.108.150 (talk) 19:50, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * What has Manfred von Richthofen to do with Snoopy? TheImaCow (talk) 19:53, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Nothing but I hate redirects so I fixed one. -- 68.163.108.150 (talk) 11:43, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * ... --TheImaCow (talk) 11:48, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

T3
I saw a ping directed at you at WT:CSD, then checked a few of the CAT:T3 pages; if you see something like which entirely transclude another template (in this case Template:Arabian Gulf Cup Champions), just redirect it to the main template (no need to use T3). Primefac (talk) 13:37, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Okay. But then you just have another redirect (from .. 67,751 other ones just looked it up ), which no one needs. Would be my opinion about this, otherwise I can simply create these redirects. Thanks for the information. TheImaCow (talk) 15:19, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Eh... redirects are cheap. If it's a reasonable alternate name (such as "Nepalese Culture" and "Culture of Nepal") it generally makes more sense to redirect; some times the redirected template has useful history (such as with the Culture of... template, where I was able to pull a few useful links that weren't in the target). Primefac (talk) 18:31, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Accidental Deletion
Hello there, the reason why I deleted the section on the Bolton Wanderers 20-21 season was because I originally thought it was an irrelivant part, but relooking at it, it's just the potential players that may join my team. I thought somebdy was spamming. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trotter1993 (talk • contribs) 15:31, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Sapna Pabbi
Hello TheImaCow, Greetings! Regarding this edit, you can see as per the ref. in the Infobox, she was aged 22 in 2008 (when ref. was published: 09:10, 30 OCT 2008), from which it can be estimated as her birth-year might be 1986 and not 1992. Just a note. Thanks. --Gpkp [ u • t • c ] 19:09, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Page Review?
Would you have time to take a look at this draft page for posting? You helped move it form my user sandbox to a draft a couple months ago Draft:The_Octavian_Report Thank you ORCommsGalKayla (talk) 17:55, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Hello, your draft looks good. However, I am not one to review these pages, you should ask someone from this list. :) TheImaCow (talk) 19:29, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

OK! Thank you! ORCommsGalKayla (talk) 19:01, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks!
for the insanely fast assessment! Much appreciated. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 15:43, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , no problem :) TheImaCow (talk) 15:45, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Flagiconwith missing country data templates


A tag has been placed on Category:Flagiconwith missing country data templates requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. This message was automatically delivered by QEDKbot. 05:22, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Flagwith missing country data templates


A tag has been placed on Category:Flagwith missing country data templates requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. This message was automatically delivered by QEDKbot. 05:23, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Some bubble tea for you!

 * No problem :) --TheImaCow (talk) 15:14, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-28
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * The Score extension has been disabled for now. This is because of a security issue. It will work again as soon as the security issue has been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 July. It will be on all wikis from 9 July (calendar).

Future changes
 * Abstract Wikipedia is a new Wikimedia project. It will collect language-independent information that can be easily read in different languages. It builds on Wikidata. The name is preliminary. You can read more.
 * The iOS Wikipedia app developers are thinking about new experimental tools. If you use an iPhone you can help them by answering the survey.
 * Some rules for user signatures will soon be enforced. Lint errors and invalid HTML will no longer be allowed in user signatures. Nested substitution will not be allowed. A link to your user page, user talk page or user contributions will be required. You can check if your signature works with the new rules. This is because the signatures can cause problems for tools or other text on the page.

Tech news prepared by Tech News writers and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe.  20:18, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Jack Fettes
1 foot 2 inches? Must be the shortest basketball player ever. 😜 -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 17:40, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , well, yeah. :/ ... :D Thanks for the note! TheImaCow (talk) 17:43, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Traditional Home
The Wikipedia entry for Traditional Home magazine is incorrect. The magazine has not ceased publication. It was changed to a quarterly publication rather than bimonthly, but it is still being published. Please correct the error. Thank you.

https://www.magazine.store/traditional-home-summer-2020/

https://www.facebook.com/tradhome/

https://www.instagram.com/traditionalhome/?hl=en

https://www.zinio.com/traditional-home-m4803

```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.223.7.254 (talk) 17:58, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

John Walton page edits
Hi There,

I am John Walton's son and there are 2 MAJOR errors on his page. He never lived in Ballymun, he lived in Coolock. And more importantly, he was NEVER married to Louise Goodman, he was married to my Mother!!!

Your sources on the original page are non - existent on these matters. Someone wrote it in an article that was NOT sourced and then its been allowed on his wikipedia page?

How about you REMOVE the piece about being married to Louise Goodman UNLESS the author can provide proof that he was (source) because he NEVER was! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.255.57.186 (talk) 10:58, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello
Hi, I added a university in Turkey. Can you be checked? :) "Istanbul Medipol University" Paradoksman (talk) 15:34, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Checked? do you mean the rating? --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 15:36, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, I thought there was an approval system here, sorry... It seems not to be indexed, should a certain time pass? Also, of course I would be happy if you rate it :) Best regards... Paradoksman (talk) 15:41, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , oh, i see. Yes, it is not (now) indexed. To get indexed, it needs to be reviewed by an new page patroller, but at least, the article is now ✅. :) --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 15:44, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I'm skilled. :D How long does this approval process take? By the way, thank you for your help. Am I tiring you? Paradoksman (talk) 15:48, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , good question. Sometimes a half hour, sometimes a half year (there is a massive backlog, with over 9.000 pages (look here)). And the second question .. no :) --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 16:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , wow this is too much. "4818 pages viewed this week" I think they are working fast :) I will not keep you busy anymore, see you! :) Paradoksman (talk) 17:46, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

U5
I've just declined a couple of your WP:U5 nominations for user pages which were quite obviously preliminary pieces of work. If you aren't already using it you might want to install WP:NAVPOPS whick will help you tell experienced users from editors who are genuinely misusing their userspace. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 08:16, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

U5
I've just declined a couple of your WP:U5 nominations for user pages which were quite obviously preliminary pieces of work. If you aren't already using it you might want to install WP:NAVPOPS whick will help you tell experienced users from editors who are genuinely misusing their userspace. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 08:16, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-29
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Users can thank others for their edits. Checkusers can now see user data related to that action. This can help identify sock puppets who harass others using thanks.

Problems
 * Everyone was logged out a couple of weeks ago to fix a security problem. The problem was not entirely fixed. Because of this everyone was logged out once again last week.

Changes later this week
 * Wikis that are not for one specific language can translate pages. Sometimes parts of translations are outdated or missing. Outdated translations are marked with a pink background . Missing translations will also be marked in the future. This markup can sometimes break things. It can soon be disabled by using  on the source page.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 July. It will be on all wikis from 16 July (calendar).

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg Wikimedia code review plans to use GitLab. It would be hosted on Wikimedia servers.

Tech news prepared by Tech News writers and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe.  16:30, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

John Foster (Tasmanian politician)
That was quick! Thanks for approving this article and for the cleanup/edits. Much appreciated, and best wishes, Kahuzi (talk) 10:41, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem! --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 10:42, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Jelena Zigon
Good morning, I wanted to send you a message in regards to Jelena Zigon's article. It keeps being denied and I am not sure what else I need to do. Could you, please, help me out with this ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BoCode (talk • contribs) 13:14, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Polo Piatti has been accepted
 Polo Piatti, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. Most new articles start out as Stub-Class or Start-Class and then attain higher grades as they develop over time. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the  [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_talk/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Polo_Piatti help desk] . Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider.

Thanks again, and happy editing! Fiddle  Faddle  11:19, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Kai Mako‘i ‘Iti
Hi, can you explain why you declined this article? Su-ilisu,emebal-meluhha (talk) 14:42, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I currently do not think that the subject of the article is notable enough. In the reason given by me is written what the article needs. --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 14:45, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Elizabeth Chevalier (model)
I came across this article, and have sent it to AfD. I had a great deal of trouble determining notability from the text and the references. The creating editor has self declared as a paid editor on one other article, but not on this one, nor the other that is in draft still (I have suggested deletion of that as an advert).

I've been known to put borderline AFC drafts through expecting the community either to enhance or to delete them, but I have to feel that they have a better than 50% chance of surviving a deletion discussion. I'm wondering if you were having a challenging day when you accepted this one. Fiddle  Faddle  13:45, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Explain
Please explain your acceptance of Stefano Cicchini which has sources that all woefully fail WP:BLP and WP:V, specifically the 6 or so clear black hat SEO and unreliable sites. Praxidicae (talk) 12:06, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * How are the references unreliable? Ok, you don't get much information from source no. 1, and about the Londondailypost I could not find out much about reliability. But apart from that... everything else is (at least for me) reliable. Also, the article passes WP:GNG. And what is a 6 or so clear black hat SEO site? --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 12:45, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * is a fake news site, and very obviously sois far from an rs and is an interview anywayenlighten me as to what this says about the subject?another fake news site, please tell me where this even mentions the subjectif you think this is an rs your ability to edit blps needs to be reassesed, this is a press release, not a reliable source Praxidicae (talk) 13:00, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * ok, you are right, at least now I know these sites are unreliable. Thanks for the clarification(s). But now, i need another clarification. Why did you tagged this page with the undisclosed paid tag? Maybe it's an "undisclosed paid" editor, but the article is okay .. or not? Ok, maybe you can see the "media" section a bit promotional, but otherwise it doesn't look like advertising to me. So what's the point of the tag there? --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 15:08, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * this is an article that was created for pay. It is not okay. Did you read any of the sources before you accepted it? Or how about the other 3 articles at AFd right now? Praxidicae (talk) 15:17, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Of course I read the references, but i still want to know what the tag is for. Doesn't have much to do with AFD, anyway. --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 15:22, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * the fact that you do not understand this leads me to believe you are not fit to be reviewing anything. Especially considering you missed the fact that several of the sources don’t even mention splash gear. Praxidicae (talk) 15:33, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, okay, I admit I made mistakes. There were "just" 2 sources in it now, in which nothing was mentioned about Splashgear, which I wouldn't necessarily call several. But anyway, that doesn't make it better, I just wanted to say it. But still, what does the tag mean, what kind of cleanup? I searched for a while and didn't find anything about that. --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 05:23, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * If you mean the "paid-ness" banner, it is a signal to us to take additional care. It means we need to look out for fluff and clutter that provides a faux rationale for notability.
 * A couple of things worth reading are WP:ADMASQ and WP:BOMBARD each of which is easy to spot as experience grows
 * Part of what we do is to call each other out on mistakes. Part of what we do is to help each other to grow. I recently made a corker!. That was due to my forgetting all I knew during a long wikibreak. It has taught me to check talk pages for Connected contributor (paid) and user pages for declarations when I am in any way uncertain. I was called out on it firmly Fiddle   Faddle  06:39, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the explanation! Now it makes sense. --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 08:17, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Part of what we do is to call each other out on mistakes. Part of what we do is to help each other to grow. I recently made a corker!. That was due to my forgetting all I knew during a long wikibreak. It has taught me to check talk pages for Connected contributor (paid) and user pages for declarations when I am in any way uncertain. I was called out on it firmly Fiddle   Faddle  06:39, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the explanation! Now it makes sense. --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 08:17, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

I see you are having a difficult discussion
I wondered if a little assistance would be useful for you. I've been an AFC reviewer for a while, albeit with a several year break in the middle. I used to do in my head what source assess table and source assess will help me do formally on references. I even used to do just that analysis when the draft (or AfD) was difficult, but these templates are available now.

With the articles that you have approved, maybe using your sandbox, try running that ruler over them.

I make mistakes, fewer than I did when I started. Some of my acceptances have been deleted. I'm happy about that as long as it's a very small proportion, because I can only do my best. I do know that when I;m tired, or not yet awake, or stressed, or interrupted are all poor times to review

Let me know if any small guidance that I can give might be useful. Fiddle  Faddle  15:50, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, this table looks really useful! I'll work with this now. One question: do you know if there is a list of such clear black hat SEO sites somewhere, for orientation? --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 05:37, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I was given, yesterday, this list. I think that will be a useful guide for you, but use it to develop you instinct rather than a go-to-directory. After a while, and it takes a while, your instinct will let you say "Wow, excellent reference, but who the heck is this source?" and you will criticise the reference.
 * I make mistakes. Oh wait, I said that! Your instinct will develop and you will make fewer. All we can do is to learn and more important, to show we are learning. Fiddle   Faddle  06:33, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help, the list looks very useful! --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 08:17, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * If you feel unsure at any time, ping me. I'll look when I'm next online Fiddle   Faddle  10:05, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * If you feel unsure at any time, ping me. I'll look when I'm next online Fiddle   Faddle  10:05, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Please Help
Please Help Me creating an article on artist i am new here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kawalpal1 (talk • contribs) 14:42, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , They have helped you. You need to read the words in the large banner where they declined Draft:Jagmeet Singh Lens Creators. After reading those you ought to have sufficient help to write your draft properly. At present I doubt this will become an article because the gentleman lacks notability. Your job of you can, is to prove otherwise by strength of referencing.
 * No references that comply with the rules = no article Fiddle   Faddle  16:34, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * No references that comply with the rules = no article Fiddle   Faddle  16:34, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Edit warning
Which one of my edits was “unconstructive”? My last edit was one reverting vandalism and the one before that was in a talk page. I am genuinely very confused. 69.247.177.113 (talk) 07:08, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Which edit do you mean? --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 07:45, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, i see. You tried to vandalize (Ok, probably not intended), with these edits Special:AbuseLog/27237424, Special:AbuseLog/27237423, Special:AbuseLog/27237421, Special:AbuseLog/27237420.. --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 07:48, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Please do not insert &amp;nbsp;...
Hi, thanks for your fixes to my new articles. However, would you please refrain from adding "&amp;nbsp;" between numbers and units or measurement? They have very little value for the readers, if at all; but make the source much harder to read, especially the measurements -- which are the most critical to get right, and the easiest to mis-type. Please consider that: So, please reconsider. All the best, --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 19:34, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) "Look nice" is not one of Wikipedia's priorities.  Paper encyclopedias must look nice for marketing reasons that do not apply to us.  In Wikipedia, looks are much less important than information — and making it easier for people to contribute information.  The wikisource syntax was intentionally kept very simple, with no tools to control layout (line breaks, line spacing, text font/size/colors, etc.) in order to make editing as easy as possible and to discourage editors from wasting their time on fidgeting with the layout.  Those non-breaking spaces are pure "looks", with zero information contents.
 * 2) Very few people know what "&amp;nbsp;" means.  Surveys by the Foundation have shown that many new would-be editors get scared away by the complexity and inscrutability of what they get when they click "Edit". Those non-breaking spaces add to that.  How many newbies intended to add a measurement to an article, but gave up because they did not know what "&amp;nbsp;" meant, and how/when to use it?
 * 3) If a typical line has 60 characters, less than 1% of those "&amp;nbsp;" will actually have any effect in preventing a "bad" line break. Some of those may then cause a bad line break somewhere else. But 100% of them will make the source less readable.
 * 4) A line break in those contexts would have very little impact on the article's readability or appearance. Every article has many flaws that are much worse in both aspects, like single spaces after sentence periods, the ragged right margin, single-word lines, bad interactions between  images, TOCs and section headers, — and, of course, terrible writing and jumbled ordering of the information.
 * 5) Aesthetically pleasing line breaking should not be a concern of editors. It should be implemented by the Wikipedia server, when it generates the HTML of the article; and/or by the browser, when it fits the text to the reader's window width.  Either software should be programmed to avoid (or, rather, de-prioritize) a line break in a blank space that immediately follows a digit.  If your robot script can find the places where an "&amp;nbsp;" should be inserted, why cant't the WP server do it instead?
 * Hello, thanks for the notice! These tags are inserted automatically by AWB - see here. But you are right for sure, I'll see if it can be deactivated. And just for your information how I got to the site - I just set a queue for new pages - but not to add these nbsb things, but rather to mark them for problems like orphaned, uncategorized etc. --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 19:55, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah! Well, thanks again for your work. --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 20:05, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Request on 23:35:27, 19 July 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Sudhami
I submitted an article on actor Appaji Ambarisha Darbha. This is my first article. But it got rejected by you stating "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia." What are the specific reasons to reject this article? How can I improve it to get approved? If I add more references other than IMDB and Surya Chitra Magazine is that sufficient? What do you mean exactly by saying "reliable, secondary sources"? Please help me out.

Sudhami (talk) 23:35, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Hello. Well, the reasons are ... what it says. Wikipedia has Notability-Guidelines, this means not everything can get an article. And, in order for the actor to be notable, such sources are needed as in the given reason (read the links) --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 23:39, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

MS-13, rev'del and US copyright
Hi, thanks for the diligence in searching out copyright violations. I haven't revision deleted the removed material on MS-13 as it is a US government press release and under US copyright law all Federal government material produced by an federal employee as part of their duties is public domain and non-copyrightable. As this was a DOJ press release, it looks to me that this is therefore PD material. Whether it is suitable for inclusion in the article is another matter but that's not what I as looking at here, merely the copyvio issue. Nthep (talk) 12:48, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the information! --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 19:14, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Page
Hello Thelmacow, could you please convert Draft:Phouoibi to main space. It was deleted by an editor because of lack of adequate links, but I added those due ones. But I can't do by myself since I am unregistered to Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4066:1:E53:0:0:25CF:C0A5 (talk) 08:45, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Untitled
Hello, I'm responding to your edits on my file for Jay Boberg. You said I didn't have inline references; I'm new to Wikipedia so am not 100% sure I'm doing things right. I've changed the first 5 references in the file, and am hoping you can give me feedback. If I'm still not doing it right, I'll try again. I also fixed a reference that was rejected because it didn't conform to Wikipedia style. I think it should now. Please let me know if I'm on the right track. 20:40, 21 July 2020 (UTC)Jonathan Taylor — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrtaylor18 (talk • contribs)
 * Sorry for the late answer. I have seen that on your draft Schazjmd has already added the first link as it should be. ([//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Jay_Boberg&diff=968842200&oldid=968839367 see here]) That's how it should be done with all other references, and how to do that is described here. --TheImaCow (talk) 07:28, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Xu fu article and original research
See No original research to understand why the mythology section is problematic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:249:C01:3990:44A6:1ADC:79E9:A16E (talk) 23:33, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

frivolous decline reasons
this was declined with the reason "Please use inline citations – see WP:REFB." And this was declined with the reason "Please remove the external links in the text and convert them to wikilinks, if possible." Both decline reasons go against the advice given in reviewing instructions. Drafts should usually be accepted or declined on notability basis, not small formatting issues like that. I too would have declined both drafts but a correct reason should have been given. Such frivolous decline reasons misguide editors. Regards, TryKid&thinsp;[dubious – discuss] 00:35, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, thank you for your advice. My mistake, I just didn't think about this at all. --TheImaCow (talk) 07:28, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

That was a warm welcome for a regular user.
Thanks for the warm welcome, but I've been a user since October 2018 Tommy has a great username (talk) 19:37, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Whoops!! :D Thanks for letting me know. --TheImaCow (talk) 19:38, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. Tommy has a great username (talk) 19:42, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Perth railway station versus Perth railway station (Scotland)
It would certainly be an event to see the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Perth_railway_station&type=revision&diff=969310861&oldid=968453971 Caledonian Sleeper roll into Perth railway station] but, sadly, there is just too much water in between. Calistemon (talk) 21:48, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * ...this is the second time now I've confused Perth with Perth. I was going to fix the wrong link in the template now, but you've already done that. Thanks! --TheImaCow (talk) 06:15, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Request for page mover
Hi TheImaCow, wanted to give you a heads up about a request I made on your behalf at Requests for permissions/Page mover. If you want me to remove it, let me know. — Wug·a·po·des 01:25, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Untitled
Hi, You just declined my request for a page labeled Joyce A. Fasula. I was wondering why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoFish121 (talk • contribs) 07:39, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * See here. --TheImaCow (talk) 07:42, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

July 2020 (1)
Hello TheImaCow. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat SEO.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:TheImaCow. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Carefully read through this before responding. Praxidicae (talk) 23:30, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm definitely not paid, and now I want to know how you come to that. --TheImaCow (talk) 07:28, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Question from Bharat Chhikara
Hello myself bharat Chhikara I’m former Indian hockey player. I checked my Wikipedia my name spelling is wrong and information also no proper I want to make my profile more good relevant. Regards Bharat Chhikara — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bharat Chhikara (talk • contribs) 09:37, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , The spelling of your name is derived from the source http://indiahockey.net/india-hockey-team/bharat/ which spells it with a single "h". Now this is where Wikipedia will perplex you. Please do not take this as an insult, it is not intended to be. The thing is, you could be anybody, saying that you are the gentleman, and asking us to change his name. It's a small enough thing, I know. But we cannot change the name without a reference to prove it.
 * Please do not send birth certificates or things like that. Please find in (eg) a national newspaper, the name of the hockey playing gentleman with the spelling you assert quite reasonably to be correct. and then the issue can be solved
 * The editor's page we are using right now is a poor place to choose. They are busy with very difficult things right now and cannot give you their attention, but, if you tell me on my talk page, I will help you with this matter Fiddle   Faddle  10:43, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ I have found a suitable reference and made necessary changes. Please see Bharat Chhikara Fiddle   Faddle  10:57, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Initial biography Mathew James Burrows
Many thanks for your review of the AfC article we submitted. We have rewritten the Publications part to spread the footnotes as requested. We have also added some substance so that the reader directly understands Burrows' main ideas. We feel indeed that it is now much easier to read.

Kind regards

Arnaud Stevins & Juiette Récamier — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arnaud stevins (talk • contribs) 12:13, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , The editor you have messaged is busy with very difficult things right now and cannot give you their attention. I watch this page from time to time and have picked up on your message. There is much more work to do on your draft, and I have left a message with details. Less truly is more with this one.  Fiddle   Faddle  22:06, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-31
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July 2020
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for advertising or self-promoting in violation of the conflict of interest and notability guidelines. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. MER-C 09:58, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

What makes you think so? I really want to know how you prove this. And just to say it right now: I never took money for editing, and I never edited for any companies. --TheImaCow (talk) 10:52, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * You have failed to apply the appropriate scrutiny to multiple COI and UPE drafts. As for the specific nature of the allegations, I will not comment on them because (1) they involve off-wiki evidence and (2) I am not interested in helping LTA spammers evade detection. MER-C 11:04, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * (1) is this a problem or what? (2) So you call me an LTA spammer... because I had the honor of accepting two (I think) dubious AFCs. What kind of appropriate scrutiny that I've never heard of do you mean? And, since I am supposed to be an LTA spammer, I am even more interested in the your evidence.
 * By my count there are 16 suspicious accepts, probably more. If you disagree with the block, use the unblock process. I will forward the evidence to the reviewing administrator. MER-C 12:13, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * For any reviewing admin with access to the checkuser queue, the off-wiki evidence is recorded at 2020072510004274. Best, Kevin ( aka L235 · t · c) 22:11, 25 July 2020 (UTC)


 * There has been clarification of the off-wiki evidence and the LTA outcome is probably off the table. Your editing still remains highly suspicious. In order to be unblocked by any administrator you will, at a minimum, need to furnish a convincing explanation as to how you came about Ahrefs and your reasoning behind accepting the draft. MER-C 15:03, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I feel the need to clarify that my decline reason above should read as I have not actually seen it. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:59, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Pardon my prying, but I am curious about which drafts this user had allegedly accepted for money. Also, it seems a bit harsh to permanently block someone from editing any article just for accepting drafts for money. A more realistic punishment would probably removing those specific privileges. Tommy has a great username (talk) 20:46, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Couple points to clear up here: (1) No one has any intention for this to be a "permanent" block – indefinite blocks aren't permanent; rather, they remain in effect until the issues that caused the block have been resolved. See WP:INDEF. This isn't intended as a "punishment". If TheImaCow is in fact a paid editor, they will have to so disclose, demonstrate that they are capable of being here to build an encyclopedia (that is, placing Wikipedia's interests above their client's interests), commit to refrain from editing the mainspace pages of their clients, and convince an administrator that they will be a net positive and that there will not be further deception of this nature (claiming not to be a paid editor). That goes beyond simply being removed from the AFCH list, and the block ensures that these requirements are met before further editing occurs. Of course, if TheImaCow is not in fact a paid editor, they will have to convince an administrator (or ArbCom) of that. (2) We unfortunately cannot share more details about this block because (a) off-wiki evidence seems to be involved and (b) revealing details about how the conclusion here was made makes it easier for others to evade detection in the future. TheImaCow: I'm sorry about the inconvenience here, and I'm wishing you all the best. Kevin ( aka L235 · t · c) 22:05, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

thanks --TheImaCow (talk) 21:28, 27 August 2020 (UTC)