User talk:TheListUpdater

As if today, I have merged everything but the most recent stuff to User talk:TheListUpdater/Archive. OK, ground rules.

1) Welcome, first of all. I always enjoy getting new messages.

2) Be civil.

3) I'll try to contact you back at your user page. Unless you've come to complain about some "fair use image" or article you wanted to delete, I will answer back.

4) Eterpah has made note of a big one. Add comments at the BOTTOM of the page, not the top.

4) The more unwritten rules you break, the more I shall add.

!!!!TALK BEGINS HERE!!!!

What's Up?
I was surprised to see you here, and was surprised that the NinDB article got deleted. I do understand it's non-notable, but you know, eventually Wikipedia won't have any more notable subjects left, and will have to expand it's "agenda", if you know what i mean ;)

You can help contribute to some of my articles if your interested in Google Earth and Theme Parks. Currently I'm working on the European theme park article Compagnie des Alpes and are hoping for more contributers to the Google Sky article. FWI, I created both articles. Cheers from Boston!  Star fox  Roy  22:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Lol, if you think about it, NinDB is technically owned by the News Corporation. Hah.  Star fox  Roy  22:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I've made substantial updates to my user page and my signature if you're interested.  Star fox  Roy  22:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Haha, funny. :P This makes me wonder, why does Wikipedia let users edit other people's userpages?  Star fox  Roy  01:14, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Fair Image deletion
The image you left on my talk page was removed and replaced with that "fair use" crap and it's kind of an eyesore. Could I PLEASE delete it?

Oh, and my blog at my userpage is up Just an FWI, not trying to be annoying.  Star fox  Roy  04:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Userpage Blog
(Sorry, Roy, you can't have a blog on Wikipedia for non-Wiki content. See Wikipedia:UP#NOT)

But that's for articles. Userpages don't need to be (and sometimes never are) wiki-related. But if I'm wrong, I can deal.  Star fox  Roy  18:19, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Blue Ridge Mall/Crossing
I think it would make the most sense to merge and redirect Blue Ridge Mall to Blue Ridge Crossing, since it's the same property and we only need one page on it. I turned up three good sources in the AfD, and there're probably scads more for a mall that opened in 1958 and was redeveloped only a couple years ago. What say you? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells• Otter chirps • HELP!) 13:49, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't it make more sense to reflect the current name, though, with the old name being a redirect? Sure, more people know it as Blue Ridge Mall than as Blue Ridge Crossing, but I thought convention was to reflect the current name of a place (such as Wonderland Village instead of Wonderland Mall or Wonderland Center). Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells• Otter chirps • HELP!) 15:06, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * P.S. Infobox stadium on a mall? That's new. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells• Otter chirps • HELP!) 19:36, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That's partially why I wanted to delete it. TheListUpdater (talk) 17:51, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Mall of the Mainland
I added some references to Mall of the Mainland. --Eastmain (talk) 21:50, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Mall of the Mainland
I added some references to Mall of the Mainland. --Eastmain (talk) 21:50, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

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Northwest Plaza
Yeah, I kinda forgot about that page. Dunno what to do right now. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 21:34, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm kinda in over my head on this page. Any suggestions? Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 02:59, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Bleah. Too much work. I'll get it eventually. Found nothing yet on Office Max, Stix, etc. etc. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 22:38, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Steve & Barry Vandal
Yeah, I've seen him on other articles. I call him the 'Retail Bug' :P

He isn't necessarily a vandal, just a n00b that needs to check his sources. I'm actually watching what he does, as I'm pretty frequent in the retail subject and I hate people screwing with the articles that I'm trying to keep clean.  Star fox  Roy  17:48, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

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Summit Place
I'll have to hit the library sometime. It's possible that the Marshall Field's deli was different from the sit-down restaurant that the old store had. Heck, I haven't even figured out where the Hudson's budget store was. There aren't enough mall editors here. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 22:07, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know. Mall articles are nearly as desolate as the country music articles (hint, hint). I just happened to luck out on Walden Galleria because there were a *(@#$load of sources on Google News; even Great Lakes Crossing, the biggest mall in Michigan, doesn't turn up a whole heck of a lot. There're still a couple mall holes I want to plug up first (see the red links on my userpage), then I'll work on a few more mall articles. Maybe we should pick one and see if we can get it to GA. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 22:49, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, by the way, regarding that poster who mentioned Woolworth Express, that was me. There were Woolcos that became Kmart, so it could be possible that Woolworth took the old Kresge. I have a listing from a 1989 phone book that at least verifies Woolworth Express. As for this picture, that's looking north from what was then Hudson's. I can tell because Kresge is on the left, where The Limited was most recently. No idea on the Hudson's Budget Store, but looking at old pics found at the mall itself, it seems that it was part of Hudson's proper (maybe the part that became Service Merchandise? Service Merch looks like it was part of the Hudson's building at one point). Finally, as a bonus, here's a map I made of the mall as it looked in mid-2006, with former tenants in orange. I might be able to make a trip down to Waterford on Sunday, but I don't know how late they'd be open if at all. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 02:16, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

El Vado Hotel
The full text of the article is as follows:


 * The famous El Vado Motel, passes along the U.S. Route 66. The neon lights of the highly stylized is said to have been "beckoning travelers for six decades". The adobe cabins epitomize everything southwestern and capture the spirit of the "Land of Enchantment." Because of the El Vado's unique character it has been placed on the National Historic Register. It truly is one of the best examples of a classic Route 66 motor court to be found along the Mother Road and is an irreplaceable treasure indeed
 * Built in 1937 by Dan Murphy, former manager of Albuquerque's Franciscan Hotel. In the mid 1980s to the early 1990s, El Vado was run by the very well-liked Ali Hakam, who has was attributed to faithfully preserving the charm and elegance of the historic motel.

There was no mention of its danger of meeting the wrecking ball. Also note the article's total lack of sources. Finally note the language used: I suppose at the time I *could* have stubbed it, I won't say no to your recreating it (and fixing the flaws), but I do think the original reason for deletion was valid (the article reads as a promotion), as a stub would merely read that it was a historic place. ——  nix eagle 20:09, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It truly is one of the best examples of a classic Route 66 motor court to be found along the Mother Road and is an irreplaceable treasure indeed
 * "... El Vado was run by the very well-liked Ali Hakam ..."
 * The adobe cabins epitomize everything southwestern and capture the spirit of the "Land of Enchantment." -- This is not encyclopedic without decent sourcing. As it is it is mere verbiage (This is sentimental, not anything really substantial).
 * The neon lights of the highly stylized is said to have been "beckoning travelers for six decades". -- Again this is an opinion.

Crossroads Plaza
Hello. Instead of edit warring over Crossroads Plaza, I have moved the article to Crossroads Plaza (North Carolina). I have recreated Crossroads Plaza as a disambiguation page with links to both Crossroads Plaza (North Carolina) and Crossroads Plaza (Utah). I have not created the article Crossroads Plaza (Utah) but perhaps you would like to. Thank you. --Andrew Kelly (talk) 22:26, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * That doesn't change the fact that Crossroads Plaza (North Carolina) isn't really notable. Sure, it may be a vital strip mall, but that's all it is...a strip mall. There's no history, no references...just a list of stores. TheListUpdater (talk) 22:55, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The Crossroads Plaza in Utah does not seem to be any more notable, nor was the article any longer. There are plenty of stubs on Wikipedia.  Crossroads Plaza (North Carolina) can be expanded, just as Crossroads Plaza (Utah) can be expanded.  --Andrew Kelly (talk) 23:07, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Bob's Game
I saw on your user page that you wanted a page for bob's game. well I made one a week ago but its Bob's Game with the capitals. so if you really want a page for it then help improve the page because it is going to be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eterpah (talk • contribs) 01:53, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Bob's Game
Sorry I'm not the one who edited it to say that.

Lockney High School fire
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Altamonte Mall
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Old page
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Ammonium nitrate disasters
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 * Digging deeper, I found a Chain Store Age article from 1967. But everything else just lists "Galleria, comma, post oak" or "Galleria, slash, post oak", as two different things. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 05:03, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

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Invite to Revive WikiProject:Shopping Centers!
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Windyshadow32 (talk) 06:27, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

"Giant-MD" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Giant-MD and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. MB 03:25, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Category suppression needed at User:TheListUpdater/Template:New York City Malls
Hi. Just a friendly reminder about user page categorization.

I've noticed a user page of yours (linked above) is appearing in a regular content category. See Category:Texas navigational boxes under T. This is discouraged. See WP:DRAFTNOCAT and WP:USERNOCAT for additional information.

Usually the situation is remedied by placing a leading colon at the beginning of the category declaration like so:

or, by bracketing category declarations with Template:Draft categories like this:

Either method will disable the category function. Thank you. Cheers! -- DB 1729 talk 20:12, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

...looks like you haven't edited in a while. I took care of it myself. DB 1729 talk 22:31, 3 April 2023 (UTC)