User talk:TheLongTone/Archive 5

Tom Joule
Hi TheLongTone, I have reverted the redirect on Tom Joule, and stuck up a notability warning instead to trigger some discussion. I might be wrong on this one, but given he founded a retailer that many people in the UK will know, I think he qualifies. Discussion to be had though! ScepticalChymist (talk) 22:06, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Jesse Waugh AfD
Hi, I’m writing to ask if you might be willing to contribute a vote on the Articles for Deletion page for Jesse Waugh. The vote already took place based on the article’s current sources, but certain people seem to be determined to get it deleted. Thanks either way. 81.44.32.50 (talk) 07:16, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * ...Hmmm. My feeling is that he probably is not notable, but I don't think this strongly enough to vote for deletion. When all is said and done I think that this character deserves an aarticle far more than most kick-the-ball players, who seem to be almost ipso facto notable if they have appeared for a club that anybody has heard of.TheLongTone (talk) 14:54, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Redirecting Notability
Hello, a suggestion that in the future use a Notability template on articles that you believe aren't notable instead of redirecting them. This gives a chance for people to build on them, and others to review especially if they're trying to build up articles over a few edits. Being polite in your edit comments helps too. Cheers Sandprism (talk) 16:26, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Collegify Article Deletion
Hello TheLongTone and thank you for your message. I'd like to know what can be done to restore the deleted page I had created for Collegify. It is one of the popular education consultancies in Kolkata and I have also provided several mainstream media publication citations in support of the article. There are other articles of education consultancies with lesser credible citations than I have provided but they have been accepted without any issues. Please help me understand what I could do in order to create it in a manner that it is accepted on Wikipedia. I will be very grateful for your help. Thanks in advance. Looking forward to your assistance.

Nishael (talk) 17:37, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * It helps if the article contains a good reason why the company is notable rather than being just another company. I'm afraid I can't remember what the citations in the article were like, but I do try not to be trigger happy when tagging articles for deletion, and in this case obviously the reviewing admin agreed with me.TheLongTone (talk) 12:51, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Help needed in Removing Promotional Tune from Article
As you have tagged Taskade as promotional content, I need help to make it neutral. Kindly let me know from the article which kind of words are considered as promotional.Lyuba.Dzhioeva (talk) 15:01, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

B.E.2
I am working on a version of this in my sandbox so good edits like your last two are a minor nuisance - I have to incorporate them into my sandbox text which could be trickier than it sounds as I have already redone the structure of the references for the first half of "my" article. Thanks again anyway - and I should be unleashing the beast later today. WWIReferences (talk) 05:03, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. I'm not sure that this is really the best editing technique. I see that you are fairly new here on Wikipedia; you will find that articles get randomly edited all the time, & if these present a problem...
 * New as I am - I think it is by far the best way of making substantial edits like this lot. Anyway, it worked well enough in this case, and saved me making multiple edits and leaving doubtful "intermediate" versions of the article that might have been unhelpful to the poor old reader. Your edits were sensible so I incorporated them - no "problem" really. If they had been otherwise I would have just ignored them and they would have disappeared when my sandbox version "landed". All the same - now I have more or less done what I wanted I have transferred everything to the article itself. Hope it is deemed at least as good as it was. WWIReferences (talk) 14:00, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Whatever works for you, I guess. Myself, if doing a substantial makeover of an article I try to do it on a para by para basis.TheLongTone (talk) 11:17, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Citybus Route 962 AfD
Hi TheLongTone,

It seems you haven't replied on my talk page for over a week, and the page has already been deleted, but I still wanted to clarify, so apologies for posting here, as it seems my talk page isn't on your watchlist.


 * I just wanted to ask why is it just this page that is being deleted, and not any other HK bus route pages? Pages like this and this seem to be extremely similar, yet those pages have been up for more than one and a half years (Since 12 September 2016), but this is being raised for deletion a mere 2 hours after that page was created. I checked the editing history of those two pages, and it seems that other users have edited on both of them, removing the operating hours, fare, and route sections. So if I removed the route section on that page, would the page have been good enough to avoid deletion? If deleting the route section was going to keep the page up, I would have been more than happy to do so, but a more logical reasoning for deletion is required, as there are clearly other pages which are doing the same and aren't being raised for deletion. Thanks. Jeffrey0219 (talk) 04:43, 6 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Oh, I'm sorry not to have replied earlier, I imagine your talk page is not on my watchlist so I was not aware of your post. In brief, your page got nominated for deletion so quickly because I am a new pages patroller & so came across it. The reason the other articles you mentioned exist is that nobody has thought to nominate them for deletion to date. Their existence is not an argument for your article to be kept: see WP:OTHERSTUFF.TheLongTone (talk) 12:35, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I just came here to add but someone just beat me to. Can you list all the remaining routes on the template (list of Hong Kong Buses) at AfD. I just voted on one elsewhere. Just like the stamps issue. Thanks Quek157 (talk) 15:11, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * , do see the reasons we gave on Afd, I will suggest if to prevent such reoccurances, you should submit your article at WP:AFC where help will be given. --Quek157 (talk) 15:31, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * @Quek157 The last time I tried to bundle a number of deletions together I fluffed it & got a big dressing-down, I'm a bit wary of repeating the expeience.TheLongTone (talk) 10:08, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Digi Osmosis (digital agency)
Hi TheLongTone,

I understand your concern however I think it's imperative to highlight the initiatives and challenging campaigns undertaken by Digi Osmosis. Digi Osmosis is a fairly new agency managing renowned clientele (i.e. Indian Premier League & Indian Super League Teams, Bollywood movies, niche lifestyle clients, etc...) with 100% success rate. Hence, it's essential to spread online awareness.

Wikipedia as a platform plays a very important role for the users. Credibility and visibility both are important.

I hope you would consider this and guide me to get this published and remove the tag from deletion process. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrugeshsingh (talk • contribs) 11:29, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

The Mystery of the Sintra Road
No need to apologize - I figured it was something like that. It's happened to me more times than I care to remember.

(Apologies for the delayed response. I made a mental note to respond to you a few days ago, and then was overtaken by events.) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:46, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Dawid2009/templates
Yes, I understood. I wanted to user:Dawid2009/templates instead Dawid2009/templates. Now main space is just for deletion without redirect. It was accident in work. Generally I have near to 10 000 edits in all of Wikimedia projects so I know what I had to do in this situation;). Regards. Dawid2009 (talk) 13:58, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Understood. I think.TheLongTone (talk) 14:00, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Was it automatic message? (template, added to my talk which is automatically changed in some text?) After speedy deletions I see always there is very similar text at talk. Dawid2009 (talk) 14:07, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes the message is automatically put on the article screator's talk page unless one asks for it not to.TheLongTone (talk) 14:08, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Repeated addition of apparently outdated/false information
Hi. I noticed that you added again the information that Pedro Perebal is a security guard despite I previously reverting said edit explaining that he is not a security guard. I don't know why did you add that information again. Do you have up to date sources that says that he is currently a security guard? I never claimed that he is a security guard. I said that he learned languages being a security guard, which is different. As far as I know he is currently not a security guard but a tourist attention official at the airport. User:TheLongTone|TheLongTone]] (talk) 12:50, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Why not add that rather than simply reverting.??TheLongTone (talk) 12:51, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * What's the point of adding that if I keep the same text? Do the right thing. Thinker78 (talk) 18:32, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * The qabove makes no sense whasoever. Try thinking.TheLongTone (talk) 14:13, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, I thought you were asking me in the afd to fix the information but you changed it yet again, that's why I didn't want to change it, to avoid the impression of edit warring. I don't understand why you keep putting that he is a security guard if I already showed you sources that say he is not a security guard. Thinker78 (talk) 16:52, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
 * because that is what the snecking reference says'. You have a ref saying he is now something else. change the snecking article and insert the new reference. Unlike you,I don't give a rat's ass about what the article says, especially since the snow is falling deep and crisp and even. but I believe strongly that an article's contents shoul;d agree with the cited sources. Otherwise the whole thing implodes.TheLongTone (talk) 10:25, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Way to talk to an older lady if I was one but you don't know. I already reverted your changes but you keep going back to the outdated info, so at this time you basically tied my hands, because if I keep changing the article to something else I would give the impression that I'm edit warring. So if you want to do the right thing, I invite you to put the correct info. If not, there is no much I can do then. Thinker78 (talk) 20:08, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Why on earth do you think I think that you are a 'lady'. Why the sneck do you think you are older than me?? Why are you unwilling to make constructive edits???? Do you know what edit warring is??????? No, I thought not.TheLongTone (talk) 11:35, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I believe in freedom of speech but I still have that taboo feeling ingrained within me due to my education about not talking in certain ways or using certain words. Per WP:WAR, an edit war... occurs when editors who disagree about the content of a page repeatedly override each other's contributions. Thinker78 (talk) 19:03, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined: Zak Ringelstein
Hello TheLongTone. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Zak Ringelstein, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: restore the redirect if he is not notable but WP:ATD clearly prevents deletion. Thank you. SoWhy 13:55, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Hurricane (group)
Hello TheLongTone. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Hurricane (group), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: WP:BAND. Thank you. SoWhy 15:57, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Please clarify. There is nothing about any tour in the article. Which I am listing at AfD.TheLongTone (talk) 11:39, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Nr. 6 of the notability criteria for musical groups (WP:BAND) says:Is an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles. As such, if at least one member - here Sanja Vučić - is notable, the group is significant enough to fail A7. And if the group is not notable, WP:ATD emphasises redirecting/merging to the notable member's article instead of deletion. The full text I wrote seems to have been swallowed by my browser, so sorry if it was unclear. Regards SoWhy 11:50, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * oh, sorry to bother you, I simply assumed that the #6 would be the sixth entyry in the table of contents. I'm not sure that the notable members were linked when I sppedied this, because I generally favour redirecting over deletion. TheLongTone (talk) 11:55, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Onel5969. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Peter Vaughan-Fowler, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

 Onel 5969  TT me 12:29, 10 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Sorry. Misclick. My apologies.  Onel 5969  TT me 12:29, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Deletion nomination of new page Stev´nn Hall using Page Curation tool, please specify particular criterion
Hi TheLongTone, in order to organize my further participation in the deletion discussion of this article, may I ask you to kindly specify the particular criterion under which you tagged this page for deletion, among the many appearing in the PCT menu? Perhaps you'd like to respond on the corresponding talk page Talk:Stev´nn Hall ? Thank you. Neuralia (talk) 18:00, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Stev'nn Hall
FYI, I think part of your nomination text is missing in this AFD, in the last sentence.96.127.242.226 (talk) 04:00, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Redirecting Soulcalibur articles
Hi TheLongTone. I am aware that you think articles like and Taki (Soulcalibur) are "fancruft" and don't belong in the encyclopedia. For the sake of avoiding edit wars and reducing animosity, however, do you think you could start AfDs for the articles if they get reposted instead of boldly redirecting them again? I would suggest both you and Snake stop accusing each other of vandalism, as that's clearly not what's happening here. If the characters themselves are notable, then ideally per WP:PRESERVE we should try to fix the problems rather than destroy them. If the characters are not notable, then that is something that can be determined more definitively at AfD. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 18:11, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Sure thing; I was under the impression that the Siegfried article had been AfD'd (an edit summary0. I'll revist the territory.TheLongTone (talk) 12:08, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

I'll make it official
As I said elsewhere,

I don't care about any of your supposed girlfriend problems. Still thinking of taking it to ANI since you refused to go away and began stalking me and and my work here, extremely disrespectful as ever. Also you just lied again (the attack came out of nowhere before I ever learned about the erasure of my work in progress while I've been busy researching for more). And the fact you too accused me of vandalism, even first, and for merely reverting your destruction of my work-in-progress ( - yes, I checked, you was the first to talk about "vandalism"). Hope you don't need an "English translation" of any of that. But you can still apologize and leave me in peace. I'm giving you that's one last chance.

You make your apology here: and here:  You apologize for making unprovoked personal attacks on editors, uncivil behavior in general, disruptive conduct, and making false statements, and then make a plea to change for a better (I won't even follow you to see if you did, because I don't have time for that, and let's say I'd believe and forgive you). SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 13:55, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * There's no possibility of replying to the above nonsense without breaching WP:CIVIL.TheLongTone (talk) 13:57, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Reminder
I am going to leave a general reminder note. Other editor's incivility/suboptimal behaviour is not an excuse for you to launch openly provoking comments. If I see another comment like these two, I will issue a formal warning. Alex Shih (talk) 15:34, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Seen. It's not me wasting energy on this dispute.TheLongTone (talk) 17:52, 21 August 2018 (UTC)::btw

Aaron Feis redirect
Hi there, I'd like to ask why you redirected Aaron Feis to the Stoneman Douglas High School shooting page. He was notable enough to have his own page, gaining national headlines on multiple different news outlets. He even had won an ESPY award. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisrow (talk • contribs) 17:29, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:ONEEVENT. As mentioned in the edit summary.TheLongTone (talk) 14:19, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

A simple question
Hi, I have a silly question. What does "ce" stand for when people put that in their edit summaries? Thanks. El principita (talk) 15:57, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Not silly at all. It stands for copyedit, ie an edit which basically cleans up the wording of an article. It's surprising how often one can substantially shorten something without actually removing any information whatsoever.TheLongTone (talk) 13:55, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Thinsulate
The article on Thinsulate is currently being discussed for deletion. It would be greatly appreciated if you would offer your thoughts. The discussion is here:. Lovelylinda1980 (talk) 14:47, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the quick review, and I'll add sources soon. Liked your user page, and I wanted to urge you to edit or create visual art pages (you could keep away from the Koons' and the others, who have at least found a place in the monetary world of art), especially in areas you've discovered lacking in articles. I've added the wonderful Rousseau image to the Rousseau page. Have never seen that painting before and it's an interesting historical work which, if you find you've changed your mind about editing visual arts pages, is just the type of new article that could use your writing and editing skill. Thanks again for your work here. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:17, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Rita Rohlfing
Dear TheLongTone, the quote you changed in the Rita Rohlfing article is taken from a book which is both in German and English, now the reference is not right anymore as it is a quote. This is valid for both quotes, means: i didn't translate it but took it from a book as a quote. Could you please change it back or tell me, how i would have to change the reference then? It is in the book and it is a quote in English... Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 14:59, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
 * OK. I've reverted my rather bad tempered edits. But in my opinion it is all complete nonsense; in my opinion almost no art crtics have anything of ant value to say. The merely deploy words like 'liminal' and 'paradigm' in the hope that this will intimidate people into thinking that they have some worthwhile insight.TheLongTone (talk) 15:04, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I couldn't agree more!!! Art critics are the worst! I understood that in order to get a good ranking here on wikipedia people do need these kind of quotes (the guidelines states this) and i took quotes which one at least can understand, at least i found them okay. I have a file in my computer named "Schmarrn", which means "Nonsense", where all these texts if they are really bad, go :-). Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 15:08, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
 * A very large file I assume. What do you use the contents for, scaring small children??TheLongTone (talk) 15:15, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi can you help
add my AfD First Strike Brigade to WikiProject Deletion sorting/Military? I'm not sure how to.

Thanks

Sammartinlai (talk) 10:10, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I can't, since I don't know how to. But note that you have only PROD'ed this article, rather than listing it at AfD. I would also add that I cannot quite see the rationale behind your nomination; the article creator has certainly made a slew of (to my mind) pointless articles on military structures, but this actually seems one of the less egregious.TheLongTone (talk) 12:42, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

From Hell (album)
Hello, why was my From Hell (album) article deleted/replaced by a redirect to From Hell (EP)? Which is a completely unrelated article that is also much shorter and with zero citations.

You said it didn't pass notability but it's actually important for the JK Flesh discography and I added links to it in the corresponding template and related articles.PalmTreeEden (talk) 15:19, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Because the article makes no credible claim of notability and is unreferenced to boot. If you think it is important, make the snecking effort to say why. I've restored the redirect & will take this to AfD if you revert without making a good case for notability. With references.TheLongTone (talk) 15:24, 21 October 2018 (UTC)


 * I added a few references to the article. It's important as it covers Broadrick's earliest electronic work (in '97-'99) which in turn inspired his following/current projects like Curse of the Golden Vampire and particularly JK Flesh.PalmTreeEden (talk) 15:50, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Entomophagy (cultural/anthropological) different from Insects as food / edible insects (nutrition scientific, technological)
Hey TheLongTone. Thank you for your nice and elaborate words on my talk page and the unjustified nomination for (speedy) delition. I would welcome it if you could add any argumentation to the discussion on the article's talk page. --AlienFood (talk) 17:02, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Sarcasm will get you nowhere.TheLongTone (talk) 12:58, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Murder of Amanda Duffy
Hi, I've expanded the Murder of Amanda Duffy page and reversed your good faith edit to change "scrap" to "overturn". I think you're misunderstanding the campaign and why the case is notable. The parents were not campaigning for the verdict in this one particular case to be overturned (which is not possible anyway, as you can't "overturn" an acquittal): they were campaigning for "not proven", Scotland's third verdict in criminal trials, to be abolished in Scots law through legislative reform. I've reworded this part of the article and also expanded further on the wider impact of the trial. Hope this brings you some clarity. — Zcbeaton (talk) 14:37, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Seen, I've witdrawn the nomination. It would have been a good idea to have made the claim for notability when you put the article up; it read like just another murder, with nothing to make it notable and there is a cadre of editors who seem to be under the impression that any murder is notable if it gets even trivial subsequent press coverage.TheLongTone (talk) 14:44, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * No worries, that's my mistake! I had been working on the not proven page immediately prior, so wasn't thinking about the lack of context on the new page. Thanks! — Zcbeaton (talk) 14:47, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Regional at Best (album)
Hi, I worked rlly hard on adding the article for the missing twenty one pilots 2nd self-released studio album ‘Regional at Best’. But then according to this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/866296190 you deleted it.

I know I’m not a very experienced Wikipedia editor so this is an honest question: what did I do wrong? I followed the template and added citations. I’m seriously confused.... Librariegrrl (talk) 04:24, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, I didn't delete it, I changed it to a redirect. This means that a link to the album title would lead not to the article but to the redirect target, in this case the article on the band. I did this because the album did not seem to be notable enough too warrant a standalone article; see WP:MUSIC for guielines.  I know that creating a new article isd tempting but very often it is better to improve an existing article. And incidentally your work is not lost, since Wikipedia stores all historical versions of a page. If you click on the 'view history' tab for the redirect & then on the date for your version, you will get your page, so you can cut & paste anything from it that is not in the existing article.TheLongTone (talk) 15:36, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Unable to Complete Article Nominations
Unable to complete AfD for the following: "U Mad", "The Glory", "Drunk and Hot Girls", "RoboCop (song)", "Say You Will"

The rest can be merged into main articles for respective albums: "Coldest Winter", "The Bounce", "Down and Out", "Nobody, "Spaceship (Kanye West song)", "Two Words"

Others such "Never Let Me Down" are currently up for deletion or awaiting deletion/redirects. Many of these articles, such as "Drunk and Hot Girls", were redirected but user involved has removed redirects time and again with the proposition that any such article should be put up for AfD. Potentially a COI in place.

Apologies for any and all past incomplete or malformed AfDs. For background info, refer to comments made on User talk page
 * Huh?TheLongTone (talk) 13:58, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Could you please tell me why did you directly restore the redirect in Kenichi Hirose
Please tell me the reason. Thank you. I have stated my opinion on User_talk:Onel5969-- クオン · 翡翠·鵺鳥·十姉妹·夜啼鳥 13:47, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

See WP:ONEEVENT.TheLongTone (talk) 13:49, 1 November 2018 (UTC)


 * I have readed it. The WP:BIO1E said that "If the event is highly significant, and the individual's role within it is a large one, a separate article is generally appropriate. Reports on Hirose is continuous. Additonally, as I said on User_talk:Onel5969, in easternTokyo_subway_sarin_attack in Eastern Asia is just as infamous as 911 in the U.S.. Participants such as Khalid_Sheikh_Mohammed have an article.-- クオン · 翡翠·鵺鳥·十姉妹·夜啼鳥 13:52, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Yawn.TheLongTone (talk) 13:54, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I can't get your point.-- クオン · 翡翠·鵺鳥·十姉妹·夜啼鳥 13:55, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Your argument is unconvincing. The target article contains all that need to be said about this criminal. I find this boring in the extreme.TheLongTone (talk) 13:58, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Go in detail please. I don't think such an opinion is supported by policies of wikipedia.-- クオン · 翡翠·鵺鳥·十姉妹·夜啼鳥 14:02, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I can't be bothered, since you don't seem to understand plain English. See you at the AfD if you are dumb enough to revert the redirect.TheLongTone (talk) 14:16, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry but I don't think personal attack is a good choice. If the community had a consensus on deleting this article, I would not object it.-- クオン · 翡翠·鵺鳥·十姉妹·夜啼鳥 14:22, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Saying that you do not understand plain English is not an attack; it is a statement of fact. The evidence is above.TheLongTone (talk) 11:55, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Aftek
Hello TheLongTone. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Aftek, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: articles previously kept at AFD are not eligible for speedy deletion. Thank you. So Why  15:14, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Forgive me for ignoring the warning
Look, I want The Cat in the Hat to have his own article. I'm sorry that I created that page again, I just wanted to make Dr. Seuss happy. So please don't delete this article. I need this page to be a good page. I also did some changes in that page. So Please don't delete it again, Please. PickleAndPeanutFan (talk) 00:14, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

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I have unreviewed a page you curated
Thanks for reviewing Sciencewood, TheLongTone.

Unfortunately Kb03 has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:

"Does not seem to meet [WP:NBOOK] and is almost entirely an advert"

To reply, leave a comment on Kb03's talk page.

Kb03 (talk) 16:53, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I entirely agree.TheLongTone (talk) 16:58, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

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Horten H.I
You can't beat a book written by the designer!!! --Petebutt (talk) 19:55, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Sounds fascinating. I would point out that I merely found this article & added it to the list; I may be flaky but always incorporate a ref or two into articles I create.TheLongTone (talk) 15:27, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Xmas

 * 2018 XMAS.pdf FWiW Bzuk (talk) 01:54, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

rankingCoach Rapid Deletion Questions
Dear TheLongTone,

I was wondering if you had any insight on how to improve my article so that it meets your requirements. I just saw that you readied it for speedy deletion and responded with my contest for deletion. If possible please inform me of what of what to add to make it deserving to be in the encyclopedia. I thought I did okay using similar articles from other companies as a model for this but must have missed something I guess. Also, if it does, in fact, get deleted by someone is there a way I can edit it instead of having to start all over... It took me a bit of time to figure out the references.

Best, SlurmM (talk) 16:45, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

P.S. Thank you for offering to help!

About UnPAY
Would you say why UnPAY is advertising article? <small style="border:1px solid #3380CC;background:White"> <strong style="background:White;color:#13AD0B"> MrInfo2012  Talk  06:41, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I did not say it was an advertising article; had this been my opiion I would have speedied it as spam. I said it contained language or material that sounded like an advert; altho it might have been more accurate to say that the bubbles of guff smelyt like the work of a PR drone.TheLongTone (talk) 15:57, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

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Luciana Galvez
looks like the person reverted it again after being told not to back in December Luciana Galvez. Wgolf (talk) 01:49, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, they did it almost immediately & I didn't notice. (I'd AfD it as threatrened, b8ut for some reason Twinkle won't do the honours. I've reverted it to a redirect again.TheLongTone (talk) 15:48, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

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NPR Newsletter No.18


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, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:
 * WMF at work on NPP Improvements
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 * Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.


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About "Everything second counts"
Dear Sir, on my talk page I posted a documented reply concerning the "Tour Eiffel arc-second precision" issue. I would appreciate reading your opinion. Thanks. Vcena (talk) 08:27, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

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New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019


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Deprodding of July 2019 Kabul attack
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User:GeneralGrievousHero4Life‎
Hi TheLongTone, I see you are engaging with User:GeneralGrievousHero4Life. Their edits have been consistently poor, and at this point are highly disruptive. Their additions are unsourced and are attempting to add a falsehood to the General Grevious article. I have reverted them, and left a note on their talk page, yet again, but they are clearly uninterested in following Wikipedia's rules and are continuing to edit war to put false information into that article. I am away from Wikipedia for the next several hours. Can you keep an eye on that editor and article? Thanks, The Mirror Cracked (talk) 14:55, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I have done nothing wrong.--GeneralGrievousHero4Life (talk) 15:01, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, removing speedy tags from your own articles is considered disruptive behavior for starters. And not giving an edit summary is bad manners.TheLongTone (talk) 15:11, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019
Hello ,

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
 * Backlog

A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.
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Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for  making  the occasional  mistake while  others can learn from  their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.
 * This month's refresher course

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Article(Dissolve Inc.) nominated for deletion appeal
Hi TheLongTone, I'm the author of this article. I'm also pretty new to all of this so sorry if I broke any rules. Not sure if this is the correct way to reply to the nomination for deletion discussion.

I created this separate article, This is a Generic Brand video. It's not so much an advertisement, as it is an indictment of cliches used by advertisers. It's an indirect commentary on formulaic pandering. The video was the first of a trilogy, which went on to mock generic presidential campaign ads as well as stereotypical ads targeting millennials.

It's actually quite brilliant making fun of ads in an ad. It's a double entendre! I discovered these in one of my lectures and felt like these videos deserved to be documented. It's like these troupes describe the socially accepted values during this select moment in time.

Anyway so this article is about the company behind these clever videos. Cool brand. Other company's have wiki articles, shouldn't this be acceptable?

15:23, 19 September 2019 (UTC)


 * "The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:16, 21 September 2019 (UTC)"TheLongTone (talk) 14:34, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

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GOAT

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A goat is always welcome, but having had no interaction with this editor I don't know whether to be flattered, insulted or plain bewildered.TheLongTone (talk) 13:35, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

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Hi! You left a note saying that a new page "didn't indicate why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia."

Can you help me understand what those guidelines are? how can one indicate that?

Thank you!

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 * replied on your talkpageTheLongTone (talk) 16:02, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

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Hi LongTone, as a contributor to the Dutch Wikipedia I am working on improving articles involving the rockband Guided by Voices. In 2017 you the article about the album Devil Between My Toes into a redirect, stating in the edit summary that it's an nn recording. This was some time ago, but could you elaborate on your decision? I'm curious since I will be rewriting the article on wpnl. Maartenschrijft (talk) 21:33, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Because firstly the article had no significant content other than a track listing, so failing WP:DULLASDITCHWATER. Secondly, the references lft all mustard completely uncut. I'd look at the criteria for notability for recordings. If you can write a better article with better refs, more power to your elbow.TheLongTone (talk) 14:02, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Business Jet Traveler
I've completed the nomination for this article, and speculated as to the reason for deletion. When you get a chance, please head over to the debate page (linked above) and add your input. Thanks! UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 13:36, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. Reason omitted due tofat finger syndrome.TheLongTone (talk) 00:16, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
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New Page Review newsletter December 2019


This year's Reviewer of the Year is. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.
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(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

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Articles for deletion/Grand Central Park - Master Planned Community
Please complete the nomination. Thanks. --<b style="color: green;">Finngall</b> <sup style="color: #D4A017;">talk 16:32, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Done; either fat finger syndrome or Twinkle is acting upTheLongTone (talk) 16:35, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * You're going to need the afd2 template there. --<b style="color: green;">Finngall</b> <sup style="color: #D4A017;">talk  16:54, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Tried to do this, but it produced a fine dish of printer's pie. And yes, I did read thee instructions... could you do the honours??TheLongTone (talk) 14:14, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Tagging of Alaska Department of Revenue – Tax Division
I recently removed a speedy delete tag that you had placed on Alaska Department of Revenue – Tax Division. I do not think that Alaska Department of Revenue – Tax Division fits any of the speedy deletion criteria because There is very little content here, but not quite none. I request that you consider not re-tagging Alaska Department of Revenue – Tax Division for speedy deletion without discussing the matter on the appropriate talk page. DES (talk) DESiegel Contribs 21:13, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * A name plus a website?? You are having a giraffe.TheLongTone (talk) 13:58, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Alert
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