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 * Thanks! ---  The Old Jacobite  The '45  20:45, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Whiskey Rebellion
...is up for a GA review. I nominated it, but I am not an expert in Western Pennsylvania or national history topics. Of course you have no obligation to participate, but since are (were) a significant contributor, I thought I would let you know. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) (talk) 21:06, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notice. I haven't contributed in so long, I'm not sure what I would have to offer, but I will look in. ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  22:46, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Casting section
I have warned the IP here and here. — Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh &#124; Buzzard &#124; 10:23, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * PS Re- "thick" I'm not sure that you have this meaning in American English, so added Wikilink. — Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh &#124; Buzzard &#124; 10:29, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking out! ---  The Old Jacobite  The '45  13:11, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones &#124; The Welsh &#124; Buzzard &#124; 15:29, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Full Name creation vandal
I don't know if you recall reverting 108.16.33.43 who liked to create full names for fictional characters. They were also doing it as 108.52.156.107 and now they have returned with a full account as Marie Garcia. Does this require a WP:LONG report so other editors know these edits are false? Justeditingtoday (talk) 19:48, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't remember that, no, but I will keep my eyes open. Thanks for the heads up. ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  02:55, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Village Pump discussion on counter-productive editor
Hi there,

I notice you recently left a warning at User talk:50.101.13.34 and thought you might be interested in contributing to the discussion on this at the Village Pump.

All the best, Ubcule (talk) 14:49, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. ---  The Old Jacobite  The '45  01:10, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Personal talk pages
Hello,

Please accept my apologies. I haven't been an active user for a few years and some of the specificities of wikipedia editing standards slipped my mind in the meantime. I think you may nevertheless come on a little bit strong with your warnings. Here's to effective collaboration moving forward.

Thanks Myrightsversusyours (talk) 18:57, 7 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Agreed. I will remove the warnings and look forward to better collaboration.  Thanks for your message. ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  19:09, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

X Files Genre
I would like to know why the genre "conspiracy fiction" cannot describe the show despite the shows mythology revolving around government conspiracies and secret experiments. Please explain why it can't be added according to you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anubrata khan (talk • contribs) 09:50, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
 * This should be discussed on the article talk page, not here. ---  The Old Jacobite  The '45  13:07, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Local Hero
Here:. -- Softlavender (talk) 19:55, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be getting from this... Please clarify. ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  19:58, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, just humor. If you don't like it, that's fine, just ignore; I thought it was cool.... Softlavender (talk) 20:04, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi TOJ. I saw this segment on Bee's show last night and the idea of Scotland giving T the finger made me laugh out loud. I know this kind of humor can be in the mind of the watcher but at least I didn't scare the neighbors dog. Cheers to you both. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 20:07, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Haha M; there's actually tons more info about the whole situation available, this just happened to be short and sweet and funny. There are even three films: You've Been Trumped, A Dangerous Game, and You've Been Trumped Too (the last of which came out right before the election). -- Softlavender (talk) 23:48, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I glanced at it while in the middle of sorting through old AiV reports, so I was feeling aggravated. I'll take a closer look.  Cheers! ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  20:08, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries, TOJ; it's the sort of thing I usually post on the talk-page of, with equally as cryptic/clever header and lack of explanation, but he's a damn Welshman and you are the only Scot (to my knowledge) I'm still on relative speaking terms with on Wikipedia. Softlavender (talk) 23:48, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * With the name Evans, I never would've guessed he was a Welshman. I'm actually mostly Irish, as it happens, but part Scots from my father's side – but not Scots-Irish.  Let's keep that straight.  Cheers! ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  00:35, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
 * That was goddamn hilarious, by the way! Thanks for sharing it! ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  18:10, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Haha, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I've watched it several times, already LOL. Scots wha hae! -- Softlavender (talk) 18:13, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you got a chuckle out of it as well TOJ. Always good to head into the weekend on a laugh :-) MarnetteD&#124;Talk 19:16, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
 * These days, I'll take the humor almost any damn place I can find it. The news is feckin' bleak! ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  02:44, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I read that book!! Feckin Bleak House. I never wanted to imagine that things could be scarier than what old Charles D wrote about. Now we are on the razor's edge of them being worse than what George O wrote. Shudder. Have fun wherever and whenever :-) MarnetteD&#124;Talk 03:24, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Haha, I'm currently in the middle of a re-read of Bleak House (first read was in the late 1970s or so; I also watched the wonderful 2005 miniseries when it aired). It's still great, but I'm getting bogged down from time to time (it's long!) and have to switch off to more modern fare. Softlavender (talk) 05:02, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
 * That's one of the few of Chuck D's books I haven't read. But, I haven't picked up any of his books since I was a teenager. ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  13:27, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

The '05 series is wonderful. My fave is Bleak House (1985 TV serial). Starting with Diana Rigg, Denholm Elliot and Peter Vaughn the cast is replete with great character actors. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 16:53, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Haven't seen that one M. Heard/read about it on the IMDB board for the 2005 miniseries, but (as with War & Peace) I'm sticking with what I already know and love rather than "shopping around". :) Those are great actors though. Then again, Gillian Anderson, Charles Dance, Timothy West, Alun Armstrong, Denis Lawson, Pauline Collins, Nathaniel Parker, Phil Davis, Ian Richardson, et al. are no slouches. And it made the careers of Carey Mulligan and Anna Maxwell Martin. Softlavender (talk) 20:08, 11 February 2017 (UTC)


 * In terms of the book, TOJ, it's Dickens' masterpiece, a cut above anything else he did. The extremely evocative opening alone is award-worthy. I was enamoured of it in my 20s, but upon a re-read some of the characters seem redundant (by dint of the miniseries which cut/composited them) and the length is a tiny bit daunting. I'm beginning to see why War and Peace, published a dozen years later, is really the world's greatest book; in spite of Tolstoy's lengthy digressions into historiographical analysis, the story and characters are thoroughly believable and naturalistic. Softlavender (talk) 20:08, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for these recommendations! I have been meaning to watch the series with Gillian Anderson because I think she is simply wonderful, but haven't gotten to it yet.  Soon, though... ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  23:30, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
 * She is wonderful. Brits were horrified that an American was cast, but they immediately hailed her astonishing performance once the series aired. She is the most striking thing about it, to me. I now "see" Lady Dedlock as her as I re-read the book, because I can see her expressions, face, demeanor. Gillian grew up in London and has also spent much of her adult life there. Softlavender (talk) 23:51, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, I remember the controversy (cun-trov-ersy, as the BBC announcers say) when she was cast. But, she almost is a Brit – not quite, but almost.  She is luminous in The Fall, cold and fearsome. ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  23:56, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Haven't seen that, TOJ. It's on my watchlist, and not too expensive on Amazon Instant, so I hope to watch it soon, thanks! Softlavender (talk) 00:06, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! You won't be sorry. ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  02:01, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The Fall is on my to see list as well TOJ. I got Netflix a couple months ago but I'm trying to do only a series or two at a time so I don't get overwhelmed. I did enjoy The Crown quite a bit. Cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 02:44, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The Crown was recommended to me by a friend, but I have not yet taken a look. Cheers to you both! ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  03:25, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Cast members
Do you have a rule, where to cut off the cast list ? 5, 8, 12, 15 actors ? I tend not to remove actors from the list if they have an article. Inwind (talk) 07:46, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
 * No, I don't have a number. I remove anyone who is not a main character, per WP:FILMCAST. ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  13:32, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
 * What is your source for the cut off of main characters in The Monuments Men. Inwind (talk) 18:58, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The source is the film. Which character are onscreen the most, have the most dialogue, or are central to the story?  This is not complicated, honestly. ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  22:45, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I would still like to understand what your criteria are to include or exclude an actor. Do you exclude actors without dialogue or with less than 3 sentences ? You seem to be sure that Zahari Baharov qualifies to be listed in the article whereas Holger Handtke does not. Can you explain your decision ? Inwind (talk) 07:52, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * If you can not provide a cjear criteria to exclude "my" actors I shall put them back. Inwind (talk) 16:28, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I have been very clear about this and cited a Wikipedia guideline. If you restore those names, I would regard that as disruptive editing. ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  16:43, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * You have been clear, but have not provided any tangible criteria apart from a rather vague definition "main character". Have you watched the film ? Inwind (talk) 07:47, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The definition of "main character" in WP:FILMCAST is very detailed; I encourage you to read that link carefully. For instance, when someone's character is merely billed as "Dentist", that is an indication of a minor character. If you want to include the characters you added, get consensus on the talk page of the article. Softlavender (talk) 08:14, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Softlavender. ---  The Old Jacobite  The '45  13:45, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
 * You worn me down. Keep "your" cast-list! Inwind (talk) 15:28, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I will thank you to assume good faith in the future and not make accusations of ownership. ---  The Old Jacobite  The '45  18:21, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Links/See Also
When adding links to other Wikipedia articles that are subject-related with the topic you are editing, which are the criteria of choice? More specifically, I have been editing a film article and I respectively had decided to add a link to the novel of the same name, as well as, a link to a film in which stars the same actor and which is based on a novel from the exact same author. Should I include or dismiss these two links and why? Please reply ASAP. Thank you very much. Olgamantsiou (talk) 21:52, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I would link to the novel of the same name (only if the film is based on the novel) in the text of the article; but I can see no justification for linking to a totally different film which happens to star the same actor and coincidentally is based on a book by the same author. Read WP:SEEALSO for further guidance. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  22:26, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Orangemike. To add to what he said, I would not link to an article about a topic that is already dealt with in the body of the article, as in the case of the book upon which the movie is based.  That was already linked in the lede and is dealt with in more depth in the body of the article.  Thanks for your question and for your improvements to Wikipedia. ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  04:47, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Whiskey Rebellion
&mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 12:02, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

February 2017
You have persistently made me out to be a vandal on the article of Lawrence of Arabia whilst it has been you who have violated the clear consensus that it should be only the United Kingdom. You repeatedly act to show your own opinions even when they are disputed by sources. Your behaviour is unprofessional. Unless you can provide sufficient evidence (not the two sources which I have repeatedly informed as being inaccurate and against wiki policy) within the next 24 hours, I will change the article again and report you. --Warner REBORN (talk) 16:50, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * You have repeatedly deleted referenced information simply because you dislike and disagree with it. That is vandalism.  Your opinion of me is utterly irrelevant, and editing Wikipedia is not my profession, so that comment was meaningless.  You can report any goddamn thing you like – if you delete sourced information again, I will revert you and report you to AiV.  Do not leave any further messages here, they will be deleted without comment. ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  17:21, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Requiem For a Dream
Hi, you recently reverted my edits for the plot of Requiem, can you please tell me which of the things I wrote were incorrect? As an example, take the errors in these 2 sentences before I changed them: "Meanwhile, Sara's son Harry, his girlfriend Marion, and friend Tyrone are all heroin addicts, and Harry funds his habit through petty theft. Tyrone decides that to support themselves, they should enter the drug trade. With the promised money, each addict hopes to achieve their dreams. At first, the trio's drug dealing business thrives." But at the beginning of the film, Marion is not a heroin addict, and while Tyrone sometimes uses, he is not an addict. The only possible theft I can remember Harry engaging in is pawning off his mother's TV. And only Harry and Tyrone sell drugs, not Marion.Capuchinpilates (talk) 22:41, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Looking back on the edit history, my objection was to some of the rewording, which was very unclear. This is especially true in regard to the section relating to Marion and the pimp, which was incomprehensible, honestly.  If you want to try some of the factual corrections again, go ahead, and I will take a look.  Thanks. ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  01:20, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Thankies
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Paranoid-Penguin (talk) 01:06, 9 March 2017 (UTC) 
 * Thank you! ---  The Old Jacobite  The '45  04:30, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Waking Life
You reverted my edit on Waking Life, I see, calling it "pointless". I get what you mean. I was trying to tidy up the source code to make it easier for editors. You could call that pointless perhaps. The thing is that you threw the babies out with the bathwater. This wasn't all that the edit was about. In fact, it was more or less incidental. The main points of the edit were consistent date format, removing deprecated parameters and correcting punctuation (per the MOS). I should have made it clear in the edit summary. Anyway, I've reverted your revert (though I kept the delinking of rotoscoping) but I redid my edit in three parts. If you still think it pointless, revert the third part (tidying up of the code) but please leave the other two parts (punctuation and dates/parameters). Thanks. Jimp 01:32, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I apologize. I don't think I paid enough attention to your edits – all I saw was the old way of writing refs in one long list, which has never made any sense to me.  I will take another look at your edits.  Thanks. ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  12:07, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Once Upon a time in America
1. It is important that Deborah´s relationship with Noodles is described. 2. It is important to mention what happened to Max. 3.It is important to mention that this movie does not end with the credits. It ends, when the screen goes black. 17:41, 25 March 2017 (UTC)Arderich (talk)
 * You are mistaken. It is important that the plot summary be kept succinct and not burdened with extraneous details.  Anyway, this should be discussed on the article talk page, not here. ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  22:45, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Terry Gilliam
Just an FYI that I started a thread on the Talk page asking about the notable films mentioned in the lead for this article. I agree that the list was overly-long, but not mentioning anything after 1998 seems a bit problematic to me as well. Cheers! DonIago (talk) 13:24, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look and weight in. Thanks! ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  13:42, 30 March 2017 (UTC)