User talk:TheProphetess

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Message from  TheProphetess : Please put newest messages at bottom. Regards. P.S. A suggestion: only say things you could say to me in person, too. I am kind. :)

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Salaam, a-n-o-n-y-m  00:37, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Bismillah
I'd never heard "basmala" until I redirected "Bismillah" to it (after a fair amount of searching and not a little serendipity) while editing the Iraqi constitution article a couple of weeks ago. I was surprised to see it does appear to be a relatively common variant (20,000 Google hits).

The article on German wikipedia has a couple of bismillah calligraphies -- are either of them nice enough to be worth the hassle of copying them over for the English article?

By the way, to move an article from one location to another, don't just cut and paste between the two, because that misplaces the history of previous edits to that page. Use the "Move" command (linked somewhere at the side or top of your screen) instead; and, if you can't, take it up on Requested Moves. Anyway, thanks for the Arabic lessson there on the talk page (I certainly could use a few more lessons...), and I'll no doubt be seeing you around the 'pedia. Cheers, –Hajor 18:23, 18 September 2005 (UTC)


 * As User:AnonMoos points out, I am out of my depth regarding the distinction between a component word use in the phrase and the name given to the phrase itself. I shall watch, from the sidelines, in the hope of filling some of those glaring gaps in my understanding of the world. –Hajor 17:29, 19 September 2005 (UTC)


 * And now I'm looking forward to reading the much improved Basmala article you helped catalyze. With regard to it speaking more of the Christian version of Bismillah and Bohemian Rhapsody -- yes, that's a common problem of perspective here. We write about what we know, and (collectively) we know more about pop music and Christianity and the Cartoon Network than Arabic and Islam and (in general) the Big Wide World. We try and mask it by putting it under self-effacing headings like "Cultural references", "Trivia" or "In popular culture", in an attempt to tie the strange and exotic down to the local and familiar, but deep down, I don't think anyone's fooled. Take a look at the bottom of Lake Titicaca, or last week's versions of Ramadan, which had a reference to the 30th-century robot version of the holiday, or of capybara, which had a reference to some cartoon character's cartoon pet. –Hajor 21:48, 19 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Kind words; thanks. –Hajor

Islamic symbolism
There is no distinction between Islamic and Muslim symbolism. In fact, Muslim symbolism is just an incorrect reference to Islamic symbolism. If you wish to delete the Mughal Gardens reference, feel free to do so. However, your comment indicating that there really is no Islamic symbolism and the zero results would lead me to believe a VFD would be appropo. Any objections? freestylefrappe 22:35, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Bismillah
Basmala is NOT a "a mispronunciation of Bismillah" -- it's an abstract noun referring to the whole phrase "Bismillah..." If you aren't capable of consulting Arabic-language reference sources at first hand, then it would be better to avoid blundering into your areas of ignorance. Furthermore, choosing a username which many Muslims would interpret as insulting and offensive wouldn't seem to give you the best credentials to start randomly banging on articles connected with Islam. AnonMoos 15:31, 19 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Ooh. This looks personal.  Sigh. But first, how do I indent? TheProphetess 17:12, 19 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Sorry if I was excessively annoyed, but it wasn't very edifying to see you asserting as "facts" things which are in fact not facts -- as well as implicitly deprecating the efforts of everybody who worked on the article before you. Can you use an Arabic dictionary in which words are listed by abstract consonantal roots? If so, please look up quadriliteral root ba-sin-mim-lam.  If you can't, then it might be best for you to refrain from getting involved in this area at this time. AnonMoos 17:48, 19 September 2005 (UTC)


 * P.S. It's orthodox Muslim doctrine that Muhammad was the last prophet or "seal of the prophets", and there won't be any more after him.

Talk:Women in Islam
Thanks for your reply. I did a little response on the talk page there that you can read. Just in a little summary, it's not that I agree or don't agree with you, it's just that there is/has been some debate about the issue enough so in my opinion to make it worthy for dicussion on wikipedia. Naturally we will not conclude which side is correct, but just show both viewpoints neutrally. gren グレン 18:32, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Happy Ramadan
Have a very happy Ramadan. Salaam, a.n.o.n.y.m   t 23:58, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you very much for your support. :) Salaam, -- a.n.o.n.y.m  t 00:24, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

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if you could look at this, I would be very grateful [] BrandonYusufToropov 15:46, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Eid Mubarak
Eid Mubarak to you and best wishes. -- a.n.o.n.y.m  t 02:48, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Eid Mubarak
All best wishes to you and yours, BrandonYusufToropov 16:58, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Eid Mubarak
Eid Mubarak and best wishes from my side. F.a.y. تبادله خيال /c 19:00, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Q.1 and Q.2
Hello The Prophetess! I found your questions interesting, I think both A and B in Q.1 are POV's , the same with A , B and C of Q.2 , the NPOV would be : The prophet Muhammad ....,he is considered a prophet of Allah by Muslims and often honoured with the phrase "Peace be upon him" after his name.

For Q.2, the NPOV statment is ''Marxism is held by .... to be ... , Muslims belive that Marxism... , though some of them ....''

A NOPV definitely is not a reflective of truth.

Like you, I am not devoid of a sense of prophecy ,but remember the curse of Cassandra! This curse come to me, and will come to every Prophetess as well ;)

Best regards Pasha 12:50, 22 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Q1. Which one of the following is an NPOV?

A. Muhammad (peace be upon him) is a Prophet of Allah. B. Muhammad is not a prophet. A - peace be upon you too - why people find this term offensive is beyond me - peace be upon as many of us as possible, if you ask me....B is a value judgement, and IMHO humans are not qualified to make such judgements. A is somewhat POV, because it assumes that everyone either does or should agree with this; could readily be fixed by 'Muslims consider Muhammad (PBUH) to be a prophet of Allah'. One line answer: Anything can be made NPOV by qualifying the statement with who or what verifiable source considers it to be a truth. IMHO a NPOV is reflective of truth for the qualifier - i.e. the sample statement reflects truth because it is true for Muslims. If the statement does not reflect truth, then it strays into POV. End of the day to solve our differences we first need to understand each other's truth. My 2c worth ;-) Thanks for the qquestion ;-) Bridesmill 02:55, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

help
Please vote to merge and redirect Islamofascism to Neofascism and religion...

... which is where it belongs. Vote here: BrandonYusufToropov 21:12, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

reply
Hi I have replied to your email. -- a.n.o.n.y.m  t 19:04, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Wikiethics
Hi,

We started a proposal Wikiethics to state the existing policies coherently and make suggestions on improving the editorial standards in Wiki. I thought you might be interested in contributing to that proposal.

Unfortunately, a pro-porn and pro-offense lobby is trying to make this proposal a failure. They unilaterally started an approval poll although almost no one including me believe that it is time for a vote, simply because the policy is not ready. It is not even written completely.

Editors who thinks that the policy needs to be improved rather than killed by an unfair poll at the beginning of the proposal, started another poll ('Do we really need a poll at this stage?') at the same time. The poll is vandalized for a while but it is stable now. A NO vote on this ('Do we really need a poll now?') poll will strengthen the position of the editors who are willing to improve the ethics policy further.

If you have concerns about the ethics and editorial standards in Wiki, please visit the page Wikiethics with your suggestions on the policy. We have two subpages: Arguments and Sections. You might want to consider reviewing these pages as well...

Thanks in advance. Resid Gulerdem 21:21, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Islamic Barnstar Award
Please offer your opinion, vote, or whatever about your choice for the image to be used with the Islamic Barnstar Award at the Barnstar proposals page. Although there is consensus for the concept of an Islamic Barnstar Award, some editors would like to change the image for the award. I was just thinking you should be aware of this discussion because you have contributed to Islamic-related articles, received the Islamic Barnstar Award, or have contributed to the Islam-related Wikiprojects, etc.--JuanMuslim 1m 16:16, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Image:Choosetogive.gif listed for deletion
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Choosetogive.gif, has been listed at. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 01:50, 30 April 2007 (UTC)