User talk:TheSandDoctor/Archives/2023/September

Administrators' newsletter – September 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Pppery · Theleekycauldron
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Dwheeler · G.A.S · Royalbroil · Ssd



CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Bradv

Oversighter changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Bradv

Guideline and policy news
 * Following an RfC, TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
 * A discussion at WP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight for dead names found that [s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment.

Technical news
 * Special:Contributions now shows the user's local edit count and the account's creation date.

Arbitration
 * The SmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in XfD have been reminded to be careful about forming local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged to note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful.

Miscellaneous
 * Tech tip: The "Browse history interactively" banner shown at the top of Special:Diff can be used to easily look through a history, assemble composite diffs, or find out what archive something wound up in.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:22, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
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Tech News: 2023-36
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes Problems
 * EditInSequence, a feature that allows users to edit pages faster on Wikisource has been moved to a Beta Feature based on community feedback. To enable it, you can navigate to the beta features tab in Preferences.
 * Octicons-gift.svg As part of the changes for the Generate Audio for IPA and Audio links that play on click wishlist proposals, the inline audio player mode of Phonos has been deployed to all projects.
 * There is a new option for Administrators when they are changing the usergroups for a user, to add the user’s user page to their watchlist. This works both via and via the API.
 * One new wiki has been created:
 * a in Talysh
 * The LoginNotify extension was not sending notifications since January. It has now been fixed, so going forward, you may see notifications for failed login attempts, and successful login attempts from a new device.

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 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" . This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally.

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:32, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Question from Toypanda (06:51, 8 September 2023)
Hello I'm really confused now regards citations and references.

I've listed the books the bands been in and newspapers magazines they've been in.

Is it you need the date of books and newspaper articles date published.

I've worked really hard on researching the band and frustrated I can't get any further

Please Please Help --Toypanda (talk) 06:51, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Question from Toypanda (11:34, 8 September 2023)
Hi Sand Doctor how do I add reference links to the main body of the story please.... --Toypanda (talk) 11:34, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Question from Toypanda (11:35, 8 September 2023)
Are these okay as references please

This is our Generation Calling, Publisher 'Days like Tomorrow Books'...Published 24th September 2010

Our Generation ,Publisher ' Upfront Publishing, May 5th 2009

The Charade, Publisher ACM Retro,7th November 2012 --Toypanda (talk) 11:35, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Question from Toypanda (11:36, 8 September 2023)
Hi Sand Doctor are these okay to add....

UK Cabaret https://www.ukcabaret.com/ivor-on-the-unglamorous-side-of-entertaining/

Author Editor Mark Richie, published September 4th 2014

Rotherham Advertiser https://www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk/leisure/view,clubland-veteran-ivor-hillman-on-daytime-tv-gigs-social-media-abuse-and-why_34651.htm Article by Michael Upton Dec 30th 2019

Mixcloud radio interview https://m.mixcloud.com/officialtmcrfm/ivor-hillman-my-pierrot-dolls-interview/ Radio presenter Peter Lee, January 21st 2016

Cargo Studios https://www.cargostudios.co.uk/news/   December 8th 2020

Rhythm Town Council DANCING queens and disco divas can strut their ... - Rhyl Town Council https://rhyltowncouncil.org.uk/downloads/020718-retro-rhyl.pdf

The Toy My Pierrot Dolls Amazon Music  DANCING queens and disco divas can strut their ... - Rhyl Town Council https://rhyltowncouncil.org.uk/downloads/020718-retro-rhyl.pdf

My Pierrot Dolls Rotherham Advertiser My Pierrot Dolls to play a reunion gig at the Chantry Brewery Tap in Parkgate https://www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk/leisure/view,my-pierrot-dolls-to-play-a-reunion-gig-at-the-chantry-brewery-tap-in-parkga_44365.htm

Author Michael Upton February 3rd 2023

NTS Radio My Pierrot Dolls | Discover music on NTS https://www.nts.live/artists/46936-my-pierrot-dolls

My Pierrot Dolls Spotify My Pierrot Dolls Radio - playlist by Spotify https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1E4yyPJGFBBMyi

Deadpan Records MY PIERROT DOLLS - Dead Wax Records https://deadwaxrecords.es/portfolio/my-pierrot-dolls/ --Toypanda (talk) 11:36, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2023-37
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Recent changes
 * ORES, the revision evaluation service, is now using a new open-source infrastructure on all wikis except for English Wikipedia and Wikidata. These two will follow this week. If you notice any unusual results from the Recent Changes filters that are related to ORES (for example, "" and ""), please report them.
 * When you are logged in on one Wikimedia wiki and visit a different Wikimedia wiki, the system tries to log you in there automatically. This has been unreliable for a long time. You can now visit the login page to make the system try extra hard. If you feel that made logging in better or worse than it used to be, your feedback is appreciated.

Changes later this week
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 * Octicons-tools.svg The Technical Decision-Making Forum Retrospective team invites anyone involved in the technical field of Wikimedia projects to signup to and join one of their listening sessions on 13 September. Another date will be scheduled later. The goal is to improve the technical decision-making processes.
 * Octicons-gift.svg As part of the changes for the Better diff handling of paragraph splits wishlist proposal, the inline switch widget in diff pages is being rolled out this week to all wikis. The inline switch will allow viewers to toggle between a unified inline or two-column diff wikitext format.

Future changes
 * All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on 20 September. This is planned at 14:00 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks.
 * The Enterprise API is launching a new feature called "breaking news". Currently in BETA, this attempts to identify likely "newsworthy" topics as they are currently being written about in any Wikipedia. Your help is requested to improve the accuracy of its detection model, especially on smaller language editions, by recommending templates or identifiable editing patterns. See more information at the documentation page on MediaWiki or the FAQ on Meta.

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Draft:Matt Clifford
Hello, TheSandDoctor,

After you restored a draft deleted via CSD G13, you need to make an edit to the page or it immediately because eligible for speedy deletion again. See User:SDZeroBot/G13 eligible. There is a script used by admins who frequent WP:REFUND that might be useful for you, it's at User:SD0001/RFUD-helper. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 00:37, 13 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi ! I did? The SandDoctor  Talk 00:39, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Yep! But don't feel bad, it's a G13 restoration trick that admins don't know about until this thing happens. Very common. Liz Read! Talk! 05:15, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

New username categories
Hello, again, TheSandDoctor,

I see you created some new categories about usernames but they are showing up as categories to be deleted in Category:Candidates for uncontroversial speedy deletion. They are very full categories so they can't be deleted but they probably shouldn't be there any way and I can't see a tag on the pages that I can remove. Just as a head's up, when I've run into this kind of problem with templates or pages mysteriously showing up in CSD categories to be deleted (when they shouldn't be deleted), I've gone to Pppery for help and they seem to be able to find what is causing the problem. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 05:15, 13 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads up. That is so weird that they are listed as they definitely weren't nominated and shouldn't have been listed based on the page source/categories having members. It'll be interesting to see what thinks.  The SandDoctor  Talk 05:22, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Old (referring to the month the category refers to, not when it was created) Monthly clean-up category-es with no members are automatically tagged for speedy deletion. This is standard practice and not a problem. It appears what happened in this case is that the bot created the category before populating it (thus resulting in it being correctly tagged for speedy deletion), and then it took some time for the system to realize the category was now populated and remove it from the speedy deletion category. A WP:NULLEDIT would have worked to properly remove it from the category, although by the time I saw that ping the problem had fixed itself. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:51, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, I didn't know that the categories would be automatically created if a page was inserted; I thought I had to have it do that itself. That said, the retroactive actions that required historical creations are all done and shouldn't re-occur. The SandDoctor  Talk 04:15, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Question from EmilyBozzo on User:EmilyBozzo/sandbox (01:30, 14 September 2023)
Hello, I am having difficulty with the formatting of my page. Can you please help? --EmilyBozzo (talk) 01:30, 14 September 2023 (UTC)


 * I've done some basic formatting on it. For starters, I would recommend taking a look at Infobox person and replacing massive caption with that. Take inspiration from another article's infobox, such as Bill Gates or another person? The SandDoctor  Talk 04:30, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-38
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 * Octicons-tools.svg MediaWiki now has a stable interface policy for frontend code that more clearly defines how we deprecate MediaWiki code and wiki-based code (e.g. gadgets and user scripts). Thank you to everyone who contributed to the content and discussions.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
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 * All wikis will have a link in the sidebar that provides a short URL of that page, using the Wikimedia URL Shortener.

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MediaWiki message delivery 19:18, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Question from Thando30 on Demola Aladekomo (11:01, 21 September 2023)
Hey --Thando30 (talk) 11:01, 21 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi ! Do you have a question? The SandDoctor  Talk 17:31, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Requesting a copy of a deleted article: 2023 Isabela Cessna 206 disappearance
Hi, TheSandDoctor! I am Abacusada, the main contributor to the 2023 Isabela Cessna 206 disappearance article, which was deleted in February 2023 per an AfD. It was about the Cessna 206 that disappeared (now found as of March 2023) around Isabela, Philippines. It was challenged due to notability issues (particularly because of WP:RUNOFTHEMILL, WP:LASTING, and WP:NOTNEWS), as the nominator argued.

Now that it has been months since the incident, I think there has been enough development to the incident to make it almost warrant an article. The aircraft has been found with no survivors in retrieval operations that took more than a month, investigations are taken into place, and two more similar aircraft crashed, all questioning the reliability of each aircraft's emergency locator transmitters. Above that, there are plenty of published reliable sources covering the incident since it disappeared until the present. I would like to humbly ask for a copy of the deleted article since I do not really want to start from scratch. I also chose to approach you since your name appeared on this list, and I have come across your name pretty often on Wikipedia. Your help is well appreciated. Thank you! – Abacusada (t • c) 15:00, 23 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi ! I did you one better and restored the article as a draft at Draft:2023 Isabela Cessna 206 disappearance. Please do not move it back to the article namespace unless it has gone through WP:AFC. The SandDoctor  Talk 17:35, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
 * This is noted. Thank you very much! – Abacusada (t • c) 17:46, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery 16:49, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

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Backlog update: At the time of this message, there are 11,300 articles and 15,600 redirects awaiting review. This is the highest backlog in a long time. Please help out by doing additional reviews!

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