User talk:TheThankful

Ho Yeow Sun
You will find extensive discussion of the pastor-or-not issue at Talk:Ho Yeow Sun. In summary, she was described as a pastor by the church previously and this is recorded in print, but the church now claims that the title was "purely honorific". I've added a sentence that notes both, with references; you'll also note that the "personal communication" in question is quoted in full on Talk (I've added the relevant sections to the ref) and you've welcome to mail CHC to ask if they've changed their mind again... Jpatokal (talk) 05:18, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


 * And re: Music Director, Ho Yeow Sun resigned that position in 2003, while your quote is from 2006. Jpatokal (talk) 05:22, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


 * David Yem has been music director since at least 1998/99. You do not understand the nature of a worship pastor. The role does not contradict the communications from either her or the church. A worship pastor is not an ordained pastor, but neither are they a music director --TheThankful (talk) 17:28, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

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Warning
DNTTR. You are changing content in the lede of Europe in a way which does not reflect the main part of of the article in particular the history section. You are in an inexperienced editor who is adding unsourced statements to the lede which constitute original research. You will be reported at Mathsci (talk) 04:37, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I have provided a reference. It's widely known, hardly "original research". Read up son. --TheThankful (talk) 04:50, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Please don't call other wikipedians "son". You removed the reference to Lewis & Wigen which says that "Ancient Greece is often (but by no means always) regarded as the birthplace of Western Culture" (page 226). That is not an acceptable method of editing. The lede is a summary of what is in the article. I helped rewrite the history section with User:Hemlock Martinis using multiple sources. Any way your own method of arguing on the talk page without providing proper sources is in an unacceptable way to proceed. Your hasty shotgun type of editing and bullying is equally unacceptable. Mathsci (talk) 05:05, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Son, you're the one who threatened me with blocks and the like. If there's been any bullying it's from your end. You need to do some more research if you honestly believe Western Civilization began in Greece, and no a quick Google is not "research". The Origins of Western Civilisation were up and away in the middle east well before Greeks settled into cities. Read up the reference I provided.--TheThankful (talk) 05:10, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I am 52 years old, a senior research scientist in France and a bye-fellow of a Cambridge college where I was for 12 years a fellow. Please do not call me son. Thanks, Mathsci (talk) 07:16, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

WP:ANI
You have been reported at WP:ANI for breaking the three revert rule, for bullying and for removing a sourced statement from the lede of Europe. Mathsci (talk) 04:59, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Blocked 24 hours
You have been blocked from editing for in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule. Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an edit war. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. For edit warring on Europe, after being notified of the three revert rule and the ANI thread. The edit that broke 3RR. Even if you honestly believe your content changes are 100% justified -- talk them out. The distinctions and rules on edit warring are probably our most "bright line" rules, like an electric fence which no one may cross. The only exemptions are if you are removing violations of the WP:BLP or WP:COPYVIO policies from pages (not just articles) and even then, you may be called to justify those edits later. Edit warring is pretty much one of our #1 things to avoid, in the future. rootology /equality 05:21, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

As I mentioned below, I made repeated appeals to discuss. Check the talk page. I was talking to myself. Check the history. I repeatedly asked the reverter to go to the talk page. --TheThankful (talk) 05:29, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Totally understood... but even if they don't, you can't edit war past that, is the thing. The edit war (3RR) rules don't differentiate over any content but BLP & Copyvio materials. It could be an IP address's first four edits, or the 100,001-100,104th edits of the most senior user ever, and a block will likely result for edit warring. I know it may sound silly, but having that hard barrier is the only thing to deter anyone from going 'nuts' on reverting. rootology /equality 05:32, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I understand all that, as long as everyone involved is blocked. I don't know what else i have to do to engage in discussion other than what i repeatedly did. This is very frustrating. --TheThankful (talk) 05:39, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Unblock

 * Hi, I updated the discussion here with your request. Seems like a lively night on ANI, someone will be over soon. rootology /equality 05:29, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

May 2009
in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for. You are welcome to make useful contributions after the block expires. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text below.

I copped a 24 hour block for edit warring, despite my repeated attempts to engage in dialogue. The other party did not get blocked despite making threats, initiating the edit war, and refusing to either discuss in a civil manner, nor check the references (the whole book) or the facts I was presenting. Now I have been blocked for 72 hours for being LemborLembor, despite the simple reality that they and I have different ISP addresses. I am, if nothing else, being educated as to the standards of fairness, civility, and how much the "truth" in an article doesn't matter when compared to a person being "right" or more familiar with Wiki Legalese. If given the chance I would come back and quote at least 5 books, with the page numbers, seeing that quoting an entire book whose main point is the point I was making doesn't seem to be enough. Very interesting Wikipedia, thanks for the lesson.--TheThankful (talk) 22:53, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

June 2009
You have been reported on WP:ANI for continuing to be disruptive on wikipedia after your 72 block for edit warring and block evasion. Mathsci (talk) 22:18, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

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