User talk:The Big C

Fat Peoples Alliance
This article was removed because it showed no sign of being a notable organization. If this was in error, please let me know. Joyous | Talk 15:55, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

It's an admirable cause, but Wikipedia prefers to document groups that are notable in some way. If you can provide verification that the FPA fits under the information in that link, please do so. By the way, you can sign your comments by typing four tildes, like this ~. That adds your username, and a time/date stamp. Joyous | Talk 16:12, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I respect your views on this subject, however i feel that all organisations must start somewhere and I believe that one day the the FPA will become a world renowed organisation. I do accept that that time isnt now and the current membership is only in the region of 80 members but across staffordshire but we are growing considerably and appeared briefely in a local newspaper. What is the threshold for the number of members for us to allow the posting of our information page? The Big C 16:25, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Certainly, all organizations must start somewhere. I just doubt that a small local organization of about 80 people has any particular impact outside of its small group of members at the moment. When the FPA is a world-renowned group, it will certainly qualify for inclusion here. I don't know that there's a definite membership threshold for inclusion, but a group that is essentially local is unlikely to warrant inclusion yet. Joyous | Talk 16:52, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough but unless there are definate guidelines for number of members needed for qualification then surely inclusion would depend on what moderator was governing the site at any given time?The Big C 16:57, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

p.s. my addition to the offside rule on the football page is acceptable? i didnt feel that it was explained properly before my addition!The Big C 16:57, 14 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Your addition to the football page looks fine to me. As for the FPA article, I think that having an idea of what is notable enough for inclusion just comes with experience. We have several mechanisms in place to deal with articles that editors don't think belong. One is called "speedy deletion," which allows administrators to immediately delete articles that fall under certain guidelines. The 2nd tier is called Proposed deletion, in which a tag is placed on an article that someone believes will not be contested by anyone. If there is no contest by the article's creator, or anyone else, the article is deleted in 5 days. Sometimes, an editor believes that there may need to be some discussion about whether an article should be removed. These articles are turned over to "Articles for deletion".  Many long-term editors have followed discussions like these for months (or years) and have seen precedents set for what kinds of articles stay, and which ones are eventually deleted.  I really feel that if I hadn't deleted the FPA article, another administrator would have, or a non-administrator would have tagged it for deletion anyway.


 * Having said that, I hope you don't decide to leave Wikipedia. We're always looking for new editors, but you might try editing some already-existing pages instead of creating new ones (as I see you've already done with Football (soccer). This would let you get your feet wet, and become familiar with existing policies and guidelines.


 * In fact, let me offer you our standard "welcome" message, which is full of helpful links and information.

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-- Joyous | Talk 17:14, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the warm welcome i will certainly carry on being a wikipedian! The Big C 21:03, 17 May 2006 (UTC)