User talk:The Blade of the Northern Lights/Archive 11

Unban

 * I've just found out that "Discretionary sanctions imposed under these provisions may be appealed to the imposing administrator". I thought I'd give you the chance to unban me before I start filling in the paperwork.Momento (talk) 06:58, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it has to be done here Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment. I succesfully appealed my topic ban there for a different subject, but only after waiting several years. (And now I lost interest in the subject.) Andries (talk) 11:32, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Greetings Andries. BoNL can unban if he wants to.Momento (talk) 12:15, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, BoNL can indeed entertain removal of the discretionary sanctions - after a minimum of 6 months have passed since they were implemented. Arbs typically won't entertain such as well until either the same time has passed, or there's an obvious error in implementing them.  Based on the topic, however, that's a rarity (✉→BWilkins←✎) 12:21, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I can't see any six month minimum.Momento (talk) 19:23, 17 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I have just recently found out that my section on the Aurora Youth Soccer Club was ban, and I wanted to inform you that I am writing this page for a course in university where I am trying to promote this organization because they are a large part to [Aurora, Ontario]. It was informing readers about this soccer program and how they can develop their soccer skills, along with their personal developments. Just was thinking maybe it can stay on for a few weeks to see the feedback from others readers. If it does not receive proper feedback by December 5th it can be deleted? Thank you and please take my thoughts into consideration as it is for a project. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nbess996 (talk • contribs) 20:30, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Mentioned at WT:Arbitration/Requests
Your name is mentioned in a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests. The names of the four newly-sanctioned editors can be seen at the bottom of Requests for arbitration/Prem Rawat 2. In my opinion, the four editors should consider filing arbitration enforcement appeals at WP:AE. There is some amount of confusion there, and I sense that some of the participants are not eager to hear what is being said. Anyway, the reason for a discussion at WT:A/R is that it is linked as the talk page of WP:AE. Who knew? Anyway you can respond in the mentioned thread if you want. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 18:00, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

AE - Logiphile
This editor continues to edit in a tendentious manner and employ unsuitable sources. A swift resolution at AE to prevent further disruption would be appreciated.' Ankh '. Morpork  13:35, 18 November 2012 (UTC) And has now removed sourced content and misrepresented a source. ' Ankh '. Morpork  22:42, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Lovely; I'll shut it down now. The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 17:36, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

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I did a copyedit to your closing message at WP:AE re Logiphile
See this. Note that I did this as a regular admin, not an AC clerk, so feel free to re-adjust if you believe I performed it erroneously. - Penwhale &#124; dance in the air and follow his steps 01:15, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * No objections from me. The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 01:36, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Police
Nyttend (talk) 03:53, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the quick unblock. Just to confirm, I should stay away from those articles for 2 days or ten? Andrzejbanas (talk) 12:40, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Two; that was the duration of the block, so two is good. The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 16:07, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Portal talk:Current events/2008 April 4
You kindly deleted Portal talk:Current events/2008 April 4 for me a couple of weeks ago after I tagged it as vandalism. Can you check whether today's recreation has similar content to the version that was deleted? If it is, then I guess a block might be appropriate, since I gave a final warning to. This is getting quite tedious - have a look at User:John of Reading/CSD log, October onwards. Please respond here, I'll be watching. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:09, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
 * It's similar enough that I'm about 100% certain it's the same person; I'll block the IP, and if he comes back let me know. The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 15:51, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:03, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Aurangzeb
I appealed to as the last active admin to have semi-protected Aurangzeb - see User_talk:Dougweller. He has edited a little today since that appeal for assistance but has not responded. I do not want to mither. Can you assist or would you prefer me to take it to RFPP? - Sitush (talk) 17:19, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I think I can handle it; funny that I was just reading a voluminous biography of Shah Jahan this morning. The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 18:00, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks. What was the bio? I doubt that you are getting much content work done right now but perhaps I can pick up on it. I'm really looking forward to the JSTOR access for things such as this - not much longer now! - Sitush (talk) 18:12, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
 * It's a 17th century account of his reign called The Shah Jahan Nama of 'Inayat Khan: An Abridged History of the Mughal Emporer Shah Jahan. Not an easy book to get ahold of, and it took some pulling strings though the library of my alma mater to get it on an interlibrary loan, but I finally got it just in time for our annual propaganda holiday.  I'm hoping I can be of some use content-wise on it at some point, though my immediate priority is to use another enormous book I just finished to do some much-needed work on Soong May-ling.  And like you, I eagerly await the JSTOR access; it'll make my research so much easier.  The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 05:29, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Please close PC2012/RfC 3
Good morning. Hope you had a nice holiday. When you get the chance, I believe we're ready for you to start looking this over. Rivertorch (talk) 16:15, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Should be able to take care of it tomorrow. The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 06:09, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking care of that, and also for sticking around and seeing this tortuous process through to completion. Since I was among the more vocal critics of the four-way close of "the big RfC", I should in fairness say now that I think your closes of the three subsequent RfCs were measured, rational, and a credit to your judgment as an administrator and as a Wikipedian. Nicely done. Rivertorch (talk) 19:43, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanksgiving
Can you please explain why you reverted my edits? The introduction of the article is confusing. MOst articles need to state in one quick line 'What is this' which the article doesnt do Vibhabamba (talk) 19:16, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Form 2E
It looks like I am heading for another prolonged discussion at Form 2E, involving someone of whom you have recent experience wrt reviewing prolonged discussions. Sigh. - Sitush (talk) 05:14, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries: others have stepped in. - Sitush (talk) 07:45, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * ... and then strike the above! It is becoming a mire. - Sitush (talk) 10:41, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll drop in there a little later on; should be fun :p. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 19:01, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I've tried to put a stop to it and they have gone away at the moment, They may just be sleeping. Probably best to leave it alone, though, until it starts up again. The only way I can see consensus changing in their favour is if their friends turn up, eg: Mr/Miss/Mr/Ms Kulkarni. When a reasonable time has passed and things look clear, if they still favour my opinion then I'd expect the wrangling to start over. Honestly, it's like watching some godawful B-movie on repeat. - Sitush (talk) 19:12, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed; if I could support getting you more than just a T-Shirt, you damn well better believe I would. As it is, I'll keep an eye on things and be at the ready if/when something blows up again.  The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 21:03, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The shirt is a trinket but might also be a useful PR exercise. The act of saying that "yes, I agree with that nomination" counts for far more. I am not entirely sober (aka: pissed), having just come home from a session to celebrate my 50th and having not slept for what is now ... erm, I forget, but it must be 48 hours. I am also not always correct in my rationales etc. I trust you to see the background and not just say "it's Sitush, so that's fine" - which is a common accusation levelled at the few admins who take a prolonged interest in the Indic goings-on. Anyway, time to try to get some sleep, although I doubt it will happen: this is tinnitus on a major scale. - Sitush (talk) 00:49, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Goes to the Movies in NYC this Saturday Dec 1
You are invited to Wikipedia Goes to the Movies in NYC, an editathon, Wikipedia meet-up and workshops focused on film and the performing arts that will be held on Saturday, December 1, 2012, at the New York Public Library for the Performing Arts (at Lincoln Center), as part of the Wikipedia Loves Libraries events being held across the USA.

All are welcome, sign up on the wiki and at meetup.com!--Pharos (talk) 08:08, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Question re: topic ban, Prem Rawat articles.
Hello, I noticed that Rainer P. is discussing the Rawat article with Little Olive Oil on her talk page. It's my understanding that when an editor is topic banned that they are not supposed to do that. But, I'm not sure so I thought I'd give you a heads up. Here's the discussion [Topic Ban.] Sylviecyn (talk) 17:45, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks; I'll have a look at it. It depends what they're talking about, so hopefully I won't have to do anything drastic.  The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 17:47, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
(This TB is from me, not Kcron.) — Francophonie&#38;Androphilie (Je vous invite à me parler ) 19:43, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Bringers of Darkness (was redirect to WP:GARAGE)
I don't wish to nitpick, but this isn't technically actually a valid WP:CSD, as the rules state "Redirects ... to any other namespace except the Category:, Template:, Wikipedia:, Help: and Portal: namespaces." Then again, since I was only going to ever use it as a snarky response to a non-notable band arguing forcefully in an AfD against their article, it's probably best it stays deleted. -- Ritchie333 (talk)  (cont)   13:16, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Caste sanctions
Per numerous warnings etc at User_talk:Theoppulent, do you think that we have reached the end of the line? They've had the caste sanctions warning. - Sitush (talk) 14:21, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'll have a think about taking it to SPI. I was already fairly sure that they'd been operating as an IP but it has just struck me that the recent edits here are in similar vein, ie: attempting to hijack an article with unsupported claims etc relating to the Chaurasia community. - Sitush (talk) 14:33, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Legal articles sock
D'ya remember and their socks? They were quite persistent up until around 10 months ago when you blocked and semi'd articles such as Smt. Shanti Devi Law College. I'm sure that they are back as. In fact, "Rajkumar" was one of their signature roots and Tundak one of their several useless articles. This quacks so loud that it probably isn't worth wasting the time of the good folk at SPI but Sockpuppet_investigations/Austereraj/Archive has some past info. - Sitush (talk) 08:42, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * looks suspect also, eg: the timing here and common interests here and here. - Sitush (talk) 08:54, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I remember him well. Those two couldn't be more obvious if they were wearing sock.i.am shirts, so I'm blocking now.  The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 00:04, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I see that they also recreated J S Yadav about a fortnight after it was CSD'd for copyvio. The new version is not a copyvio but it is also useless and (almost certainly) yet another member of their family. Problem is, "Yadav" is an extremely common name in India, so proving non-notability is going to be a nightmare even though the contributor history demonstrates the problem, This subtle aggrandisement is a trademark, alas. It's a weird world is this Wikipedia lark, and judging by events today at ANI, well, it is about to get weirder. The regular sharks etc have latched on to me, having sensed blood, and it looks like the well-meaning folk have been taken in. Thus, my first visit ArbCom as a "someone reported" seems likely. My choice of words was poor but I've already said that and all I was asking for was someone to intervene and persuade D to stop and talk, rather than carry on and talk. Which they did promptly, having being hit with the ANI hammer. Signed, a bewildered member of the Mancunian India Caste Cabal, otherwise known as - Sitush (talk) 00:34, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Why not just tag it for G5 (blocked user)? — Francophonie&#38;Androphilie (Je vous invite à me parler ) 00:48, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I learn something every day. And here it is only 55 minutes into the new day. Onwards and upwards. - Sitush (talk) 00:56, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It's the holy grail of CSD! Well, actually that's G9 (office action)... but then G5 is like... idk, whatever's second-best to the holy grail. A piece of the cross? — Francophonie&#38;Androphilie (Je vous invite à me parler ) 01:03, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't do a tremendous amount of CSD stuff and that which does happen tends to be in the "A" range. I still have much to learn although, bizarrely, I knew of G9! My bet is that the G5 will be declined because there is a source of sorts & the trail is complex but, hey, what is one more black mark in my logs? - Sitush (talk) 01:12, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Threw up a link to this section on the talk page. Hope it helps. As for ANI, don't sweat it. Things work out in the end. Of course, knowing obscure policy and giving out lofty advice is what got me blocked in the first place, so maybe I should shut up. — Francophonie&#38;Androphilie (Je vous invite à me parler ) 01:26, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, it's gone. Thanks for the advice. I'm not too mithered about ANI but what is really happening there has nothing to do with me, although there are two or three people taking a pop for reasons unconnected with either my complaint or Doncram's editing: they turn up to take a pop at me every time, seemingly because they are frustrated. Their frustrations stem from misunderstandings of policy and one has just demonstrated that again by proposing that I should receive a short block as a "rap on the knuckles" - not what we block for, as you will already know! I got what I asked for in my opening remark there, ie: delay some dodgy contributions from continuing without first discussing the underlying issues and methodology further and in one place. - Sitush (talk) 07:57, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll keep watch at the ANI, and I'll intervene as much as I can to prevent lunacy from hijacking things. The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 17:35, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

List of Indian IT companies editnotice
Hi Blade. You mentioned to me a while ago that you wouldn't mind putting up an editnotice for me at List of Indian IT companies. Well, I'm still in the process of a major overhaul (see my ultimatum of sweeping unilateral revision), but I think it'd be useful to put up the editnotice now, so that I don't find myself in the ugly position of edit-warring with users who are trying to put up the same type of cruft that landed the page with a Cleanup-rewrite ambox. Anyways, so I drew up a proposal editnotice, and was wondering what you think; obviously, feel free to revise the draft in whatever way you'd like. If you have any questions about the rationale behind my various decrees, I'd be happy to explain - my basic thought is that the current purpose of the page, to list all IT companies operating in India, fails WP:NOTYELLOW, whereas a list of companies based in India could be a useful guide to interested readers. (As I say on the talk page, I'm aware that I'm effectively taking control of the page, but I see no harm in doing that in the absence of any arguments to the contrary - if other editors do come to the page and say they disagree with my decisions, then obviously I have no interest in violating WP:OWN.) — Francophonie&#38;Androphilie (Je vous invite à me parler ) 22:05, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The text looks fine; I'm going to boldly bold a few things to make it more attention-getting. Also, you may want to make it a bright background color (see the editnotice for Gadsby (novel), for instance), but I'll leave that to you.  The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 05:46, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * A bright background color? I scoff at the idea! Sure. Will do. What's your opinion on icon choice? I contemplated using File:Ambox warning blue.svg instead. — Francophonie&#38;Androphilie (<u style="color:#000000;">Je vous invite à me parler ) 06:10, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Either one would be fine, I've seen both used. Though I must confess, I've seriously considered uploading this.  The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 06:35, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Just ripped off the Gadsby color completely for now. Or do you think it should be something a bit softer? I think the important thing is to scare away the advertisers and explain things to those who legitimately misunderstand the purpose of the encyclopedia, wihtout biting the newbies any more than is necessary. — <u style="color:#000000;">Francophonie&#38;Androphilie (<u style="color:#000000;">Je vous invite à me parler ) 06:57, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe the same color they use on the ANI editnotice; a bit softer, but still attention-getting. The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 07:04, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Was surprisingly hard to figure out what color the ANI editnotice uses, so I went with a custom . Might be a bit to pink or a bit too matte, so feel free to tweak as you see fit. — <u style="color:#000000;">Francophonie&#38;Androphilie (<u style="color:#000000;">Je vous invite à me parler ) 07:58, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I like it myself; if you think it's finished, I'll go put it up for you. The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 14:35, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Yup. Looks good to go. — <u style="color:#000000;">Francophonie&#38;Androphilie (<u style="color:#000000;">Je vous invite à me parler ) 14:48, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * All right, done. Thanks for your work on it, I'll help you monitor the article as well.  The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 14:52, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. The real gruntwork is going through and deleting every non-Indian company, and figuring out where all the Indian companies are actually headquartered - I think a lot of them try to avoid saying they're based in India as much as possible, so it's been taking me a surprising amount of digging on some companies' websites to find a passing reference to a "registered office" or something. But I hope this should at least stem the flow of incoming cruft while we sort out the cruft that's already there. — <u style="color:#000000;">Francophonie&#38;Androphilie (<u style="color:#000000;">Je vous invite à me parler ) 15:07, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi. Recently you deleted the page MKG Group. I realise you are claiming it to be only pure advertising, although as are many other pages, no doubt. Of course I was also not fully finished. Was still working on it when you deleted. I will ammend and follow the wizard process now and then make it live when ready. ANy advice? Travelkosmos (talk) 09:49, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Dolores Creel Miranda
You PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has been requested at WP:REFUND, so per WP:DEL I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider taking it to AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:39, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know; I'll have a look. The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 21:42, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately for deletionists everywhere, myself included, I had to stumble on this conversation and check the article. And, policy stickler as I am, I was forced to de-BLP-PROD it on the grounds that it was created before March 2010. Should we get rid of that loophole? Definitely. Do I hate myself a little for not just keeping my mouth shut? Yup. But, it is what it is. I don't feel like putting together an AfD nomination at the moment, but if someone else does, they'll definitely have my !vote. — Francophonie &#38; Androphilie  ( Je vous invite à me parler  ) 18:53, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You did quite right, well spotted, I should have noticed that. The cut-off date was part of the deal when the BLP-prod system was set up, as a compromise between those who wanted a mass-deletion of all unsourced BLPs and those who thought the problem didn't need so drastic a remedy. It's a pretty horrible article, more of a CV, but with all the things she is said to have done the sources might be there for notability, and I don't have time or inclination either to do the research. JohnCD (talk) 20:25, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * As I recall, things that were restored after the cutoff date are still eligible for BLPPROD; I could be wrong, but that's how I've always done things. The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 21:17, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Interesting point, I don't think I've come across it before. It depends how you interpret "created" in WP:BLPPROD #4. Anyway, it has one source now. JohnCD (talk) 21:24, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, that would render it moot, wouldn't it? I'll take a look at it when things regarding this calm down.  The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 21:26, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Savji
Savji appears to have been subject to problematic IP contributions over a prolonged period and today appears to be attracting some rapid-fire meatpuppets. I've had no response to my talk page comments, although I've just added another. - Sitush (talk) 10:02, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Ouch. Indefinitely semiprotected, as like almost all the others like it IPs haven't done anything useful there.  The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 17:57, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Newtown Shooting
Howdy. I found a decent reference for that addition to the article. Best, --Jsderwin (talk) 18:38, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Good, thanks. The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 18:40, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Image license
Hi :) Noticed that you deleted Image:Stag Arms Model 2TL.gif because it was licensed as having permission to use on Wikipedia (but not a free-er license). Do you think it also qualifies as Fair Use under Promotional Material? If no, why not (so I can better understand for future cases). Thanks, -SColombo (talk) 22:13, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
For semi-protecting the Newtown article. I was about to do it myself! SarahStierch (talk) 22:14, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem, glad to be of service. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 22:15, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

AE case
Hello The Blade of the Northern Lights. I am writing regarding your commentary on this AE case. As I mentioned, this is a rather unprecedented case. No one in the history of WP has ever been banned because of such accusations. I have clean history of participation in WP. Please could you reconsider your position. Sprutt (talk) 23:38, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Rainer P.
Rainer P. has opened a request: Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment. Could you identify for me the concerns you had regarding Rainer P. - the edits that user made which led to the topic ban. Thanks.  SilkTork  <sup style="color:#347C2C;">✔Tea time  05:31, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Archives
Hello Blade. I hope you like the attractive new archive box I added for you near the top of this page. I was trying to look up some Prem Rawat discussions. Revert if you disagree. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 06:37, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks; that really does help. The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 18:50, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Amendment request: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Prem Rawat 2
User:Rainer_P. has filed an amendment request which involves you. Your comments would be appreciated. For the Arbitration Committee --Alexandr Dmitri (talk) 14:46, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

PC question
Is this PC protection appropriate, or should I have levied semiprotection? I get the impression that PC is appropriate whenever semiprotection would be permissible, except when an article is being edited so often that we can't keep up with all of the changes; the NASA article has been vandalised every other day for several weeks. Asking you because you closed the last RFC on PC. Nyttend (talk) 14:45, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice. Throughout this whole process, I've been rather confused about what's going on; while I support the idea of PC, I've been rather fearful of opponents jumping on me if I make a mistake.  Nyttend (talk) 20:30, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism report
Hello. I would like to bring to your attention that the same IP user you blocked twice a few months ago, 69.247.190.207, is making disruptive edits again and is ignoring all warnings I've left. At your earliest convenience, could you please block them? Thank you. Regards,  Creativity  97  02:00, 18 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Amazing. Have a read of Vandalism. There's some useful information there.  Catfish  Jim  and the soapdish  00:17, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Advice re pullback
Blade, if you agree that the article discussed at User Talk:John Vandenberg did not qualify for CSD, can you restore it please? I haven't seen it for about a week, but unless something drastic happened since then deletion was silly. EEng (talk) 04:58, 18 December 2012 (UTC)


 * No, the deletion was not silly. The article was on an attack meme which had already negatively affected a real life person (in particular their job). The article was based on junk sources, including a weekly magazine (NIE (weekly magazine)) which is pretty much the Polish paper equivalent of Encyclopedia Dramatica. Some of the other sources were simply pages off the web that someone created. None of the sources were reliable. And there is basically no way that the subject - even putting aside notability issues - can be written in a way that does not violate BLP. There's honestly no reason why this article should be on Wikipedia. Volunteer Marek 05:09, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It would be best if you would present your arguments in one place for all to read. EEng (talk) 05:42, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It certainly didn't strike me as an attack page; the sourcing wasn't exactly perfect, but certainly not "solely meant to disparage the subject". I'll restore it once I'm done checking the developments at WP:RfAR.  The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 14:50, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * EEng (talk) 23:26, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Please see User_talk:John_Vandenberg (and the sections which follow). I'll also notifying deleting admin . John Vandenberg (chat) 03:38, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Blade, thanks for the Advice Pullback. Some of the edit summaries refer to a Talk that still needs restoring. Someone done it. EEng (talk) 10:00, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

FYI

 * I think this guy should be blocked as a disruption only account. It fell under ARBPIA, but such accounts can be blocked regardless to AE. My very best wishes (talk) 04:23, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah... there's obvious POV pushing, and then there's this. Indeffed. The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 04:34, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you! My very best wishes (talk) 04:41, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

<!--== Treatment of IP editors ==

Hi Blade, could you comment on the thread "Vandalism Report" at User talk:Bwilkins? Cheers,  Catfish  Jim  and the soapdish  10:26, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Medvegja
Hello Blade,

I believe Medvegja is editing from this IP to get around his topic ban. He used to revert to his favored version in Laskarina Bouboulina, ditto in Albanians, to chime in at the AE report , as well as these edits to his claimed hometown. His latest from this IP is after the imposition of the topic ban. Thanks, Athenean (talk) 08:29, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * IP blocked for a week, Medvegja blocked for 2 weeks; this is way obvious. The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 17:34, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot for taking care of that. Cheers, Athenean (talk) 10:17, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Arbitration motion regarding Requests for arbitration/Prem Rawat and Requests for arbitration/Prem Rawat 2
Resolved by motion at Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment that: 1) Standard Discretionary sanctions are authorised with immediate effect for all pages relating to Prem Rawat, broadly construed; this supersedes the existing Article Probation remedy. 2) Any current non-expired Article Probation sanctions are hereby vacated and replaced with standard Discretionary Sanctions in the same terms and durations as the vacated sanctions. If appropriate, these may be appealed at Arbitration Enforcement. 3) The Logs of blocks, bans, and restrictions at the Prem Rawat 2 case page is to be merged into the original Prem Rawat log at Requests for arbitration/Prem Rawat, which is to be used for all future recording of warnings and sanctions.

For the Arbitration Committee, Alexandr Dmitri (talk) 17:19, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
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