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Your GA nomination of José Cobo Cano
The article José Cobo Cano you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:José Cobo Cano and Talk:José Cobo Cano/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Sammi Brie -- Sammi Brie (talk) 06:41, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of José Cobo Cano
The article José Cobo Cano you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:José Cobo Cano for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Sammi Brie -- Sammi Brie (talk) 07:23, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

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DYK for José Cobo Cano
—Kusma (talk) 16:52, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Thought broadcasting
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 * Hi! I see you are expanding the article. I would have preferred you let me know that you planned to expand it, or done so before renominating it for GA. It's best if the GA review is of a stable version, and expanding the article so soon after it passes GA means that while it will have the GA tag, large parts of it will not have been reviewed to make sure they meet GA standards. In the future, please bear this in mind. —Ganesha811 (talk) 22:08, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello. My expansion was not significant and was prompted by your (rightful) removal of the «Causes» section. For me, it seems essential the inclusion of such section in medical articles, so I researched for more studies and added what I found. Good articles should not stay indefinitely uniform, all new information is more than welcomed.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 19:44, 28 September 2023 (UTC)


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Dispute discussion
I'm obliged to notify you of this. Neutral point of view/Noticeboard Killuminator (talk) 21:40, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Question about the GA review
I took the liberty to address the suggestions for the 'Early life and background' section you made in your review right away, but I wanted to ask: is that alright or do you prefer me to wait until you've finished reviewing? – Editør (talk) 22:51, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello. Yes, that's more than fine, just make sure to strike the suggestion or put the ✅ template bellow. Thanks.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 22:56, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Alright! I was about to post my reply on the review page when realized I should ask you about this first. – Editør (talk) 22:59, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your review and helping to improve the article! – Editør (talk) 11:52, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
 * , my pleasure. Good job on the article and good luck with the Amsterdam Marathon!  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 11:59, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! – Editør (talk) 12:07, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

unsourced content
I rewrote the four-term fallacy article to give it an easier flow for the reader. It's not really a matter of sourced vs unsourced content, since (I presume) the content that I replaced was also written by us Wikipedia editors. If the content I replaced is actually taken from the 1990 book cited at the end of the section, then I think my revision should also remain, as to keep it as it was would be a copyright violation. I was going to make some additional touchups, but before I go back to the article, could you explain please why you reverted my edits? I understand the unsourced content edit summary was automated and that you could have written more. Thanks, — Soap — 15:06, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello, Soap. I only revised your last edit in which you added a sentence without any source cited at the end of it. I didn't realize that Ultraviolet also reverted your other edits; nevertheless your other changes don't seem to be just copyedit, you changed the content of the examples from fishes, goldfishes and fins to weapons, knives and dangerous. That's original research and your comment that if the content you replaced is from the 1990 book it should prevail just shows that you didn't take into consideration the source. I've reverted my edit, do the whatever touchups you want but do look at what the book says or add new sources that back up your example.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 18:20, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

CS1 error on Delusional disorder
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Isabelle Urquhart
So the editor who is posting in your GA review wrote most of the lede and removed all of the links you are suggeting upon learning that I was editing for GA. I figured any issues would all get resolved in the 20 Minute and GA review. I would not have nominated this for GA if I had known this was going to be outcome. Apologies for the rudeness towards you; you are making helpful suggestsions and, of course, are voluteering your time to this process. Hopefully, things will be smooth moving forward, as I really wanted to upgrade an article during the women's initiative. Rublamb (talk) 22:20, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your comments and for addressing the suggestions in a civil manner contrary to the other editor. Even assuming good-faith, he seems to present WP:OWNBEHAVIOR towards the article. Let's hope he won't engage with you in a edit war regarding those linking suggestions and we can finish up this review. Thanks again.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 22:40, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I was terrified you were going to suggst an Infobox.... Rublamb (talk) 09:37, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I thought of that for a moment but after seeing the Russian novel the other editor wrote opposing it, I wouldn't even dare.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 09:46, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Anna Burke GA review
Hi there, I was just wondering whether you have any more comments for the GA review? I think I've addressed all of the comments you made before, and with one or two I was unsure whether I'd fully addressed it. GraziePrego (talk) GraziePrego (talk) 23:39, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello. I was taking a short wiki-break. Sorry for the wait, everything looks fine. I will be passing the article. Cheers.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 20:59, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * That’s totally ok! Thank you very much for your reviewing and assistance with the article, I am very delighted to have helped get it to Good Article status. Many thanks. GraziePrego (talk) 22:52, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you too. The GA was all due to you, nice job! It's always good to have women in green :) It was a pleasure working with you. See ya around.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 22:58, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

No consensus was reached?
Your edit summary here does not make sense.

See the consensus on RfC held here: Talk:Regional_power/Archive_5.

There are no sources meeting WP:CONTEXTMATTERS for Pakistan's inclusion. That's why Pakistan is not included on the list. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 09:48, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I only saw the sources analysis and wasn't seeing any consensus, you're right.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 22:56, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Reminder on GA completion
Hey there, just wanted to remind you to follow the full steps on finishing a GA review, as I noticed you haven't been updating the classification in WikiProject templates or listing the articles in the GA list. I've now done this myself for both Clara Thalmann and Margarita Ortega, so I just wanted to let you know of this for any future reviews you may do. --Grnrchst (talk) 13:09, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, I thought a bot would add the article to the list. Thank you for the heads up.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 22:55, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Note re Amazons close
5 votes in favour are necessary at VA4.  J947  † edits 09:23, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Just as purplebackpack89 is knee-jerking opposing everything, I will knee-jerk support everything.
Hey, just wondering if you read my general rationale for opposing the American politicians removals and my specific rationale on various politicians. To call it knee-jerk is kind of disrespectful and ignores the nuances of what I said

I'm frustrated by the original nominator, who clearly blanket-nominated a whole bunch of people without due diligence. And now I have two other people, Piotrus and you, blanket support every single proposal, again without much scrunity.

I have a degree in American history and, not to toot my horn too much, but I feel I'm more of an expert in American politicians than most of the other VA editors. And I feel like my expertise is going to be outvoted by people with little or no knowledge of American history

Also, 1991 for America as a world power? From 1914, they were one of a small handful and from 1945 they were one of two p  b  p  14:59, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Pinging  p  b  p  15:13, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I will be answering you in the respective VT5 page.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 15:48, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * You didn't really allay my concerns tho. It still strikes me as a kneejerk reaction that a) really didn't analyze how I actually felt or voted, and b) didn't really understand the topics you were voting on  p  b  p  01:42, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I haven't responded to all your comments yet, I know. I'm on vacations, I will answer you when I have the time. Sorry if you felt disrespected.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 14:35, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Help
Is there a way to prompt User:Cewbot to help me (de)list and (de)tag these results.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:59, 26 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Add Popeye: discussion closed (add 4-0) undo
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 * Remove Klavdiya Shulzhenko, Add Viktor Tsoi: discussion closed (unanimous for swap)

TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:59, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * as far as I know the bot only updates the section 1 quota numbers, not the subsections and they add the talk page banner if the article is listed at VT5, but it might take a few days.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 16:54, 26 November 2023 (UTC)


 * O.K., I have done these and one WP:VA4 manually.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:26, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

New Order
It looks like there were the votes to remove for me. The closer said it was 4–3; I only see 4–2. But either way, the 55% opposition for inclusion is there.  J 947  ‡ edits 00:19, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, and by the way, is it time for Wikipedia talk:Vital articles/Level/5/Archive 17?  J 947  ‡ edits 00:23, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I was doing the math wrong, either way, 4-3 shouldn't pass as consensus but okay.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 17:44, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Nevermind – it's clear that I can't count the votes anyway!  J 947  ‡ edits 21:36, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Section levels on VA5 talk subpages
Are we going to use the same archive for all level-5 talk subpages? I think it would make sense to do so, but in that case, probably section levels should be adjusted to make main sections of level 1 and all discussions for archival as level 2. Kammerer55 (talk) 18:53, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Due to the tremendous size each subpage will have, I think it's for the best if each of them has their own archive. Changed the section headings level.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 18:58, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, not sure I fully understand the point, since the archives seem to grow new pages as needed and the subpage division might change later (according to the participation activity), so supporting multiple archives for unstable subpage divisions might feel a bit unnatural. However, I guess you have more experience with (auto-)archival, so will leave that to you. :) Just to confirm, do you think it will be easier to search across individual subpage archives rather than across a single archive, or will the search work across all archives simultaneously? Kammerer55 (talk) 19:12, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * My point is, if people are searching for a specific proposal they can easily find it either if there's one or multiple archives, but if they are unsure about the exact heading's naming, just want to do a general check, etc, it is easier to find what they're looking if the archives are divided by themes. By contrast, if there's only a centralized archive it would be x5 times harder to find it. An alternative solution would be to have the subpages archives but to transclude everything to the main talk page one as well.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 19:33, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, got it, thanks for explanation. Kammerer55 (talk) 19:36, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, in any case, thanks a lot for doing great job implementing the split! Kammerer55 (talk) 19:15, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you!  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 19:33, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you
For working on splitting the talk page at V5. For people, I think you missed the recently added Jurists. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 11:19, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for pointing out, done!  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 11:41, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Minor error
Somehow you blanked the Ranma 1/2 discussion in here? It doesn't seem transcluded anywhere? Could you restore it and then mention it from the anime&manga discussion where I mentioned the forgotten Ghost in the Shell discusion, so new folks active there can check it out as well? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 02:44, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Weird. I've restored the content, it's on the Society subpage.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 09:03, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Closures
Thx for closing Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/Archive_19. As I look at your edits, I don't see you enacting your closures.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:22, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The dogs were already added...  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 23:24, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Canines too?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:25, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm working on it.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 23:27, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Why don't I see your edits in main space and talk space. Also, I don't understand Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/Archive_19 this closure.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:30, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't know, but keep calm I just closed the discussion and I will add the canines soon. What you don't undersand about the auto-archiving? I simply removed it as per discussion.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 23:32, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay, I clarified my closure and put "partial pass" instead, the rest didn't get enough votes to be enacted.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 23:48, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I am really confused. You seem to have closed a lot of stuff and don't see any Talk space edits. How is that possible? Also, the comment at Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/Archive_19 does not clarify what passed and what didn't.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:46, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Seems like it's high time for a PSA that to add or remove entries to the list, you aren't required to update the article talk pages. Cewbot does that for you on sensing changes to the subpage lists.  J 947  ‡ edits 22:35, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * O.K.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:59, 20 January 2024 (UTC)


 * User:J947, I did a lot of closes in recent days and watched several pages to better understand what the bot does. I have been working too hard at closing.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 09:58, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * User:The Blue Rider, I will WP:AGF on the dog/canine stuff, but I think I need to know what is going on at Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/Archive_19. Potentially, there may need to be some relistings, which I am happy to get involved with.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 09:58, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Why would you not assume good faith on the dog/canine closure? I did nothing wrong...I also already explained my closure, nevertheless I clarified it once again. Please stop pesking me.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 11:12, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * AGF is possibly the wrong reference. I just like to double check closures of interest to me. Currently the explanation at Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/Archive_19 is "PASSED The Blue Rider 23:05, 18 January 2024 (UTC)". Your explanation at Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5 is People can check the archives if they really want. The Blue Rider  22:52, 18 January 2024 (UTC).  If you don't leave an explanation in the archives and don't leave the discussion open long enough for me to get clarification before it is archived, the only recourse is to "pesk" you.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:05, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Regarding Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/Archive_19, I intend to renominate all discussions that closed 3-0 that were not enacted. I am just making sure that you left all of them as no consensus.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:05, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't mind people checking my closures, but the moment you come to my talk page claiming that you're assuming good faith like you are doing me a favour, is the moment I ask to stop pesking me. I had just closed the dog/canines and you immediately said that I didn't enact the closure; it was a tad precipitated. Also, if I put a nomination as passed, then I think it's obvious that the articles will be added/removed.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 16:33, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * There was only one discussion as 3-0 and that one was enacted, the rest was 2-0.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 01:05, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Parts 2a, 2b, 2c, and 2d all had 3-0 discussions.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:04, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It only had you and starship.paint.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 23:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Miscommunication. I was talking about the original vote. So you enacted the discontinuation of auto-archiving. I will do all the 3-0 renominations at some point.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:50, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Fork-tailed drongo
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