User talk:The Bushranger/Archive 5

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WikiCup/History/2011/Submissions/The Bushranger
Hey- you can't claim points until the articles have appeared on the main page. Thanks, J Milburn (talk) 20:52, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah. I wasn't sure about that, thanks for the clarification! - The Bushranger One ping only 22:06, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Enfauser
Since you are sure this is notable please bring on at least one source. It's AfD otherwise. If you find a source I'd be fine with merging or not. 217.235.16.234 (talk) 07:24, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Never said it was notable, per se, just not a hoax. The only 'source' I could find was the AARSE forums, which aren't exactly a RS, although if they say it exists I believe them. A redirect to Enfield is probably needed regardless. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:28, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

WPTC
After reading your comments on the WPTC talkpage i was just wondering but would you say each and every European high and low pressure areas?. IMO they are exactly the same as tropical cyclones since they get named and notable systems get picked up by the media (just like TC's) and can do significant damage.Jason Rees (talk) 22:49, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Those are quite different, in that they don't even have the potential to reach Category V strength, and also the names are not widely used, being more like nicknames used by the weathercasters to sound "cute". - The Bushranger One ping only 00:13, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

CASA HC-144 Ocean Sentry
Nice work on the CASA HC-144 Ocean Sentry page. But is there a reason you chose CASA as the maufacturer instead of EADS-CASA? - BilCat (talk) 06:05, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Ooops. It should be EADS-CASA, shouldn't it? I'll move it in the morning if nobody else does. And thanks! - The Bushranger One ping only 06:06, 8 January 2011 (UTC)


 * No problem. If you need an admin to help with the move, User talk:MilborneOne should be able to help out. - BilCat (talk) 06:22, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Pratt & Whitney J48
The DYK project (nominate) 18:02, 8 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for nomming this - it was certainly a pleasant surprise! - BilCat (talk) 18:09, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * You're quite welcome! - The Bushranger One ping only 18:44, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

WP:AN/I
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Duno
In your posting regarding Duno you say "Following 2010, Duno was released from her IndyCar ride as a result of her poor performance." When I removed this you then stated in your comments that your posting does not say that she has been released from IndyCar you said that it states/means that Duno was released from Dale Coyne Racing - the team that she competed with in the IndyCar Series last year - but that is not what your statement says. First - there is absolutely nothing that you can find in the media that states that Duno was released from Dale Coyne Racing. Second - there is absolutely nothing that you will find to support your claim that Duno was any way released from her "IndyCar" ride. Furthermore, the article you cite does in no way mention or state that Duno has either been "released from Dale Coyne Racing" or "released from her IndyCar ride." It does not state that Duno has been released from Dale Coyne Racing nor does it say that Duno has been released from her IndyCar ride. What you posted is incorrect based on your citation. Since you posted the information it is incumbent on you to find validation anywhere that supports your posting. You will not find anything that states that Duno has been released from her IndyCar ride or from Dale Coyne Racing.

In your posting "Choosing to head in a different direction this year..." - again you will find no credible source that states/verifies this. Duno also participated in the ARCA Test last year, as well as the ARCA Daytona race and also the full 2010 IndyCar season as well. There is nothing in the articles that you cite that supports your statement. According to the ARCA team release it appears that Duno has chosen to once again participate in the ARCA test and race at Daytona and that her full 2011 season plans are forthcoming.99.157.208.214 (talk) 18:29, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I found two different sources, both cited in my addition to the article, that stated she would not be returning to the IndyCar series this year. Which was the basis for my statment. For the record, I like her (as opposed to, it seems, 99.9% of other US racing fans), but I was merely reporting what I found. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:11, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Re
Thank you for your support at my five articles DYK. Do you know if there is a rule that prohibits similarity in articles listed for DYK? I'm curious. And BTW you forgot to sign your post at my DYK. Thanks and cheers! Bine Mai 11:23, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Eeep. That's what happens when it's almost 3am. As for the rule, well, there is a rule that says if you break out or merge an article, text added to an article in that way does not count. I'm not sure if there's an explict rule governing new articles with similar content between them; but as I said there, if all the articles in question are new, then it shouldn't matter. After all, there's only so much that can be said about things with similar characteristics... - The Bushranger One ping only 16:34, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Happy 10th Anniversary of Wikipedia!
 Happy 10th anniversary of Wikipedia! Hey Bzuk  (contribs) has bought you a whisky! Sharing a whisky is a great way to bond with other editors after a day of hard work. Spread the WikiLove by buying someone else a whisky, whether it be someone with whom you have collaborated or had disagreements. Enjoy!

Spread the good cheer and camaraderie by adding to their talk page with a friendly message. Bzuk (talk) 15:06, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Penshurst Airfield
Thanks for your review for DYK. How close would you say that this is to a GA? I am aware that the civil accidents need expansion, and the Kent and Sussex Courier and Tonbridge Free Press would seem to be likely sources for this. Mjroots (talk) 09:43, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem. :) Aside from the notable accidents, I'd suggest seeing if the 'Location' section could be expanded any at all, as it looks just a little on the short side compared to the rest of the article; perhaps why the location was chosen as suitable? And perhaps a bit more on WW1 service, but that might be hard to find! - The Bushranger One ping only 17:09, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
 * With the assistance of, the accidents and WWII sections have been expanded and corrected. I've nominated the article at GAN. Will see what comes up at GAR. Mjroots (talk) 20:17, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Re your GAR, I've tweaked the accidents and incidents section, and swapped the photos over. Can't expand the 1910s section any further from the sources I have, so have given MILHIST a shout in the hope that other editors will be able to. As you noted above, info on this period could be tricky to find. Mjroots (talk) 07:54, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Humor
I am glad you appreciated my humor at Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_January_17. Someone is liable to take offense to it though, sooner or later. I am only waiting for it to happen. Sometimes, people can be overly serious here. :) Debresser (talk) 00:08, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It seems that everything is offensive to somebody out there, alas! But we do need to remember that not everything is SRS BZNS. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:09, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

MDLP DYK
citations added --Tyw7 (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 10:47, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * When will this article appear on Main page?--Tyw7 (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 19:49, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * That depends on when somebody moves it to the prep areas, from there to the queue, and from there to the main page. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 20:09, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Volusia County Road 4011
I thought you may be interested in AfD. SEE: County Road 4011 (Volusia County, Florida), Articles for deletion/County Road 4011 (Volusia County, Florida). Gamweb (talk) 17:44, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up. Unlike the bridges, I'm not sure this one deserves its own page though. - The Bushranger One ping only 17:45, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * A former section of Old Dixie Highway
 * A former section of US-1 before it was realigned
 * Main entry road to Tomoka State Park
 * Part of the Ormond Scenic Loop and Trail
 * If those do not qualify as notability then I don't know what the word means. Gamweb (talk) 17:52, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Ordinarily, I'd agree with you; alas, I don't think other people would stretch WP:N beyond including the mention of the road in Old Dixie Highway, U.S. Route 1 and the like. :( Even I wouldn't count park entry roads as notable, though. - The Bushranger One ping only 17:54, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia Ambassador Program is looking for new Online Ambassadors
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I hope to hear from you soon.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 20:05, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Online Ambassadors
I saw the quality of your contributions at DYK and clicked on over to your user page and was pretty impressed. Would you be interested in helping with the WP:Online_Ambassadors program? It's really a great opportunity to help university students become Wikipedia contributers. I hope you apply to become an ambassador! Sadads (talk) 01:46, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Really it just requires a little bit of skill at editing Wikipedia and an ability to communicate effectively on Wikipedia. I think you more than qualify for that role, though if life is hectic, I can certainly understand that reasoning, but if things slow down, I encourage you to participate, Sadads (talk) 02:58, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

List of all County Maps from Florida DOT
BINGO! I figured there had to be a listing of County Maps ~somewhere~ and I finally ran across the right page today. (They are not always 100% accurate, but its the best reference point we have for citations.) Notice they are available in Large, Medium, and Small sizes. I have no idea what a "DGN" file is, but the others are PDFs. Gamweb (talk) 05:12, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * FDOT: Surveying & Mapping Office - Online County Maps
 * That's awesome. Great find! I'll see what I can get out of them. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 05:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm starting a "List" page of CRs for Seminole County. The AfD Squad seems to allow the List pages to stay. Gamweb (talk) 05:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * As well they should. When I get a chance I'll work on the ones for Wakulla, Leon, et.al. - The Bushranger One ping only 05:51, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

FL
Am looking to get state reptiles to an FL. Have done the FA thing. Any advice? We've already put a lot into it.TCO (talk) 08:56, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, well, I'm only just now going for my own first FL (FL Birds was run through the process by another after I created it). But I'll have a look! - The Bushranger One ping only 17:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/1955 MacArthur Airport United Airlines crash/archive1
Hey there, I was wondering if you'd like to have a look over this article and post any comments you have at the FAC. Thanks,  wacky wace  13:30, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll have a look as soon as I have a chance! - The Bushranger One ping only 17:28, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks!  wacky  wace  17:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the very helpful comments and the support!  wacky wace  10:26, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

The Talk:Miniman antitank weapon changes
Dear Bushranger, The Miniman like the AT-4 that replaced it are not rockets. They operate similar to the large recoilless rifles. Unfortunately, even a few early US Army manuals and press releases referred to the AT-4 as a rocket. The texts of both weapons can explain their method of sending the projectile out of the tube. Jack Jackehammond (talk) 14:57, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Nike reference to nuclear space kill
Aha! I questioned the source, also, which is why I made this assertion in the Project Nike article. I copied this prose, more or less:
 * The United States developed direct ascent anti-satellite weapons. A United States Army Nike Zeus missile armed with a nuclear warhead destroyed an orbiting satellite in May 1963.

From the article, ASM-135 ASAT.

I have no first knowledge of either the systems or the references, but it would appear quite controversial seeing as it is not common knowledge of a nuclear strike of a satellite. I invite an investigation, but as it is, I would probably put in a "disputed comment" or note this in the articles' talk pages. I think that it is healthy to include this controversy rather than assuming the reference is plain wrong. Sources aren't wrong... they tend to be disputed if they are. :) I like to saw logs! (talk) 06:46, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I think there would have been some sort of notice if there'd been additional nuclear tests! But I see your point, and the ASM-135 article probably should have that excised as well. I did a Google search and can find references to the Nike-Zeus being tested in May 1963, but noting else about it being nuclear-armed. So...hm. - The Bushranger One ping only 06:49, 19 January 2011 (UTC)


 * For more info, see http://www.astronautix.com/craft/proam505.htm -- also, Google Books has the following book: The militarization of space:

U.S. policy, 1945-1984" -- you can do a search inside the book for "Zeus" "nuclear" and the like. I like to saw logs! (talk) 22:40, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Missile failure
I've closed your Cold War nomination here. However, there's a problem. See the note on the close and tell me what you want to do next.--Mike Selinker (talk) 02:48, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Aww, crudpuppies. That's why I haven't gone after the various by-country aircraft categories... I'll scratch my head and decide what to do, probably save those for "last" because of the templates. I might ask the folks over at MILHIST about it too. Thanks for the heads-up. - The Bushranger One ping only 04:08, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * P.S. I see from your page you're with them. Good work on this! - The Bushranger One ping only 04:11, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Much appreciated. There are people there who are much more responsible for that line's success than me. But I've had fun working with them on all the games and supplements I have.--Mike Selinker (talk) 05:34, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Update: I managed to move the contents of the Cold War missiles category without damaging the other categories. I don't know if this principle will hold for other category templates, but we're okay on this one. I also haven't touched this MILHIST page but it's starting to get loaded with redlinks and inconsistencies.--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:21, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! That's awesome. I'll see what I can do about fixing up the MILHIST cats page. - The Bushranger One ping only 17:02, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * ...good grief. That page hadn't been updated since 2006... - The Bushranger One ping only 17:17, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi Bushranger, thanks for helping me out on the assessment of the SRAAM article. Much appreciated. Zounds011 (talk) 07:14, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries, glad to be able to help! :) - The Bushranger One ping only 17:38, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Crossroads Mall (Florida)
Did you even look at the article? It has plenty of news articles about it, and plenty more in the Google News search. I have no idea where you're getting "Adventure Guide" from. Precedent is that malls don't have to be "different"; they just need sufficient secondary sourcing. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 23:30, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I did look at the article. The news articles are routine pieces that could be written about any strip center in Florida. The Adventure Guide was the only notable GBooks hit. As for precedent, I wasn't aware, thanks for the heads-up. Given that, I'll change to Neutral.- The Bushranger One ping only 23:33, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Plus, as I said in reply on the AFD, there are a couple unusual facts about this mall. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 23:34, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

HTMS Chakri Naruebet
My apologies, I was only going off what the source I had access to stated. Because the cited source contradicts the knowledge you have at hand, I have placed a citation needed tag on the designation of the decoy until it can be attributed to a source. -- saberwyn 05:44, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Makes sense, and no need for apologies! :) That's the Wiki way, we all learn in the end (annoying though it is when we find an error in a source...) - The Bushranger One ping only 05:47, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

WikiCup 2011 January newsletter
We are half way through round one of the WikiCup. Signups are now closed, and we have 129 listed competitors, 64 of whom will make it to round two. Congratulations to, who, at the time of writing, has a comfortable lead with 228 points, followed by , with 144 points. Four others have over 100 points. Congratulations also go to, who scored the first points in the competition, claiming for Talk:Hurricane King/GA1, , who scored the first non-review points in the competition, claiming for Dognapping, and who was the first in the competition to use our new "multiplier" mechanic (explanation), claiming for Grigory Potemkin, a subject covered on numerous Wikipedias. Thanks must also go to Jarry1250 for dealing with all bot work- without you, the competition wouldn't be happening!

A running total of claims can be seen here. However, numerous competitors are yet to score at all- please remember to submit content soon after it is promoted, so that the judges are able to review entries. The number of points that will be needed to reach round two is not clear- everyone needs to get their entries in now to guarantee their places! If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 22:44, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations

 * Just adding my personal congrats, I know from experience that even being a frequent runner-up just doesn't quite do it for one sometimes, and this was well-deserved...! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:50, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * (e/c, doggone it Ian...!) :Nice work Bushranger, keep creating these interesting articles! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, everybody. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 07:12, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

The Downlink: Issue 2

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state reptile refs
1. I'm in process now of putting all those refs into the Bio page. The individ refs are also in the list below. (it is a list style article, headed for FL). No problem to do so, I don't mind, and I can do some ref bundling for the ones where there will be lot of refs (like the 15 states with  turtle). Just want to check and make sure this makes sense. Would be a shame if I put them there and someone told me to clear them out. I think they're fine, but just checking...

2. You probably liked the gator mascot...

TCO (talk) 06:42, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It's fine. The DYK rules require, as a rule of thumb, one reference per paragraph of prose, so that was the holdup. Just making sure that the statements in the prose are verifiable is the rule. And yup, I did, even though I live in 'That Other Town' compared to UF. ;) - The Bushranger One ping only 06:46, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * shoot. I was worried that my ass-kissing would be foiled by your chopping 'noleness.  Serves me right.


 * But wait. Do you want me to bring the refs up or not?  I'm going after it. but it's kind all or nothing as there is no single source.  I'm not going to do anything ugly like 15 refs in text, but I will do a note (bundled ref) and then list them.  Actually I'm all for doing it now.  Probably worthwhile for FL.  But just tell me if you think someone will DISlike it, please.  As it's a couple hours work, minimum.TCO (talk) 06:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * All that's needed are two refs, for the moment - no need to 'port every ref from the table up. I've added tags to the two places where a little ref will do ya. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 06:54, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll just ref it all. I'm compiling an off line list of them all.  Wiki is WAY more clunky than MS word.  I'd be done by now in MS word.TCO (talk) 06:59, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * The syntax does take a lot of getting used to. Once you learn it, though, it's remarkably intuitive. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:03, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * The first para will take me a while. I have to do the whole bundled ref and all that.  Making a list of named refs in a file offline.  Thanks for the note on the rattlesnake thing.  That's not even in our article, so will go get that one.  Will look for anything similar also.  I doubt it though.  The rest was just  discussion of the list.TCO (talk) 07:12, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * OK. I got the rattlesnake ref in there, I reworded the comment on the saltwater species so as not to claim a negative, and I added a turtle bundled ref in para.  I think you said you just needed one per para, but I will finish it all  now.  But should meet specs, now.TCO (talk) 08:52, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Aircraft articles and categories
I note that you've removed Category:Propeller aircraft, Category:Biplane aircraft and Category:Low wing aircraft from a number of articles where it would seem that those categories were correct. I also note the removal of Category:Multi-engine aircraft from a number of articles where the aircraft was powered by two engines. On checking the cat, it would seem that the scope of the cat may have changed, but twin-engined aircraft could be considered "multi-engined". Apparently there is no Category:Twin engine aircraft, should one be created to cover these aircraft? Mjroots (talk) 07:24, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hiya. This was debated on WT:AIR last...April, I think? Or was it last May? The consensus was that a lot of these categories are simply too broad to be useful as anything other than container categories for more refined, defnining-characteristic categories. There are so many "biplane", "twin engined", "low wing", "high wing" et-al categories that, it was consensus'd (if I may make up a word!) that they were useless and needed to be phased out. This was the final more-or-less agreed-upon layout hoped to be achieved once things are all said and done, as I recall. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:27, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I lived with an F-14 pilot. Twin engine was considered multi-engine in the Navy as well as the civilian air world.  It's that you have certain controls (and procedures) involved with twin engine versus single.  But the big difference was one verus more than one.  Not one versus 3 or 4.TCO (talk) 07:31, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Just saw that container category. I guess you do need to make a category for twin-engine.  if you care.  I really don't see why so many cats anyway.TCO (talk) 07:33, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Cat spam was part of the concern, yeah. Category:Twin-engine aircraft would have the same problem as Category:Multi-engine aircraft did, though - it's simply far too broad. (It's not as bad as Category:Single-engine aircraft though - the sheer size of that is one reason it's taken me so long to tackle these!). - The Bushranger One ping only 07:34, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * We could do category metal aircraft, category partially composite aircraft, category shiny aircraft. ;)  TCO (talk) 07:36, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * But what about Shiny aircraft? ;) - The Bushranger One ping only 07:41, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * (multiple ) I can't say that I agree with the "too many in this cat argument", but if consensus was established then I will accept that. I would suggest that a cat needs to be created for twin engine aircraft, which appears to be the only missing cat, as Category:Single-engine aircraft exists. Mjroots (talk) 07:37, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, that's a fair point. The catch is, though, what would be in it? It would have to be a holding category, but Category:Push-pull aircraft, the obvious subcat, includes a number of four-engined types... - The Bushranger One ping only 07:41, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Also note that it's the long-term plan to do away with Category:Single-engine aircraft entirely, in the end. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:42, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Push-pull aircraft is separate from the number of engines, as it refers to the layout of the engines, not the number, which can be anything from two to 10 (I don't think any aircraft had more than 10 engines, but I could be wrong) I think this is deserving of discussion at WP level, particularly the creation of the cat for twins. Mjroots (talk) 07:45, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * But that's my point - this was discussed at WP level, last year, here. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:48, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I think 14 is the engine record, one of those crazy '60s VTOL ideas with stacked RB.108s as lift engines. I too can't see the benefit in stripping these cats. I would make "multi-engine" a meta-cat though and group the articles by exact number. Andy Dingley (talk) 02:21, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * One of the main concerns was that there were over 1200 entries in Category:Single-engine aircraft alone; Category:Biplane aircraft was even bigger. As I noted, this was discussed and consensus'd at the above link, although if it's desired to be discussed again, then that's cool. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 03:39, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't do that much editing on Wikipedia, I'm normally working on intranet hosted wikis instead, some of which are quite a bit bigger than Wikipedia (although they don't have the user volume). 1200 entries in a cat is no problem (I've some 50k+), if what you're using is categories as a basis for automatic querying, rather than manual navigation. It's seemingly anathema on WP, but the way to manage cats at this level is through the use of tags (templates that add cats), rather than manual cat addition. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:03, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

After further pondering, I see the point - and the merits. And I've started a discussion here. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:09, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Species of Birds
Hey birdman! I took photos of some seabirds today (at Daytona Beach Shores) and I don't know what species they are. My best guess is Red Plover, but I just don't know for sure. Can you take a look and see? Thanks. Gamweb (talk) 03:45, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi there! Those would be Willets, probably the Western Willet subspecies/soon-to-be-split species given their pale bellies and the time of year. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 03:49, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Now I can upload the rest of them. Gamweb (talk) 04:04, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem! I'll be happy to help with any other IDs you need help on. - The Bushranger One ping only 04:05, 3 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I have a photo of a Seagull now - can you tell me what species it is? Thanks. Seagull Gamweb (talk) 03:54, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Gulls can be extremely difficult, but this happens to be one of the easy ones. That's a Laughing Gull. All the "hooded" gulls you see in Florida are - 99% probability - LAGUs. Franklin's Gull is very rare, while Bonaparte's Gull is smaller and usually heads north before developing a hood. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 04:40, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * Heh. :) Thanks muchly! - The Bushranger One ping only 00:05, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Well considering the bitter discussions in the past over cats, keeping a sense of humour over them is worthy of encouraging! Wear it proudly! - Ahunt (talk) 00:08, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Mention
Just to let you know I've mentioned you here: Thanks, -Chumchum7 (talk) 10:31, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. And...er...*looks it over* o.o...good luck there!

checking on co-authors for DYK
Thanks for all your DYK pushing. Just wanted to check and request that the 3 coauthors be added to the state reptile DYK (from 21st, in Queue 5). Not trying to pack the court, but am very conscious of slighting someone who has given us help. Hadn't seen the names go up before it went in queue.TCO (talk) 06:19, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Glad to help! You'll want to post that request over at WT:DYK, since once it goes in the queues, only admins can edit it. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 06:25, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Railroad Industry in Syracuse, New York
What's the deal with all the sucky editors out here? So many BENT on deleting and debasing other's work? Yeah, I see what good it does nominating my hard work for DYK, that won't be happening any longer. - Nconwaymicelli 01:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry you feel that way. We're not "bent on deleting and debasing"; the fact is that the article was nominated late, and while Rule D9 does allow for that, when a week after nomination nothing had been heard from the submitter about the need for improvements, the article was removed from the nominations list per a discussion on wait times that had taken place at WT:DYK. I see you have been improving the article, and it looks good, but there are still some unreferenced paragraphs in it; even now it isn't ready for DYK. I would suggest, though, that once those paragraphs are cited, you submit it for Good Article status. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:31, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Apology accepted but you are just trying to sooth my wound! Still largely not getting what you are saying Bushranger, don't mean to beat a dead horse but I went through that article and counted 79 paragraphs, 7 don't have a reference (and that is data I pulled from another Wiki page that unfortunately didn't have any). Another 8 paragraphs have citation on part of the paragraph. Yet when I look at many other pages currently on DYK I am largely seeing same thing and in some cases some articles have way fewer references? I don't add a citation on each sentence? Also, some of the paragraphs get quite lengthy and I am only adding the citation at the very end. Should I be adding more citations within each paragraph (but will in many cases be to same reference)?  - Sorry for losing my temper and taking it out on you. Nconwaymicelli 01:17, 7 February 2011 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.101.35.239 (talk)
 * No worries. I've been there and done that myself on occasion. :) The DYK rules call for a rule-of-thumb of one inline citation per paragraph; if articles are slipping through that have completely unreferenced paragraphs, that's worrying. Not having a citation on each sentence is OK; we don't want to encourage citation overkill, after all! As long as there's one citation in each paragraph, that's good; an additional citation if there's a particulary noteworthy/controversial fact that needs verifying wouldn't be amiss. Having citation on part of the paragraph is OK, it's the 7 that don't have a ref that would be the issue. Hope this helps! - The Bushranger One ping only 20:23, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

JL-9
Thanks Bushranger for correcting the error. Just overlooked it. A photograph taken in January 2011 exists of a JL-9 with a tailhook. Because of copyright not able to produce it in the original article. AircraftZurf (talk) 20:27, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk
Please do not attempt to correct the English on my comments on talk pages, as you did just now.--Toddy1 (talk) 19:43, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that, you have my apologies. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:45, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Semi-pro football discussions need feedback
Hello! You have participated in WP:AFD disucssions involving semi-pro football teams in the past. The following two AFD discussions could use additional weigh-in as they appear to be stuck in "relisting" mode:


 * Articles for deletion/Seaboard Football League
 * Articles for deletion/Northeastern Football Alliance

I am placing this notice on talk pages of users who have shown interest in the past, regardless of how they !voted in the discussion. If you do participate, please mention that you were asked to participate in the discussion.--Paul McDonald (talk) 21:55, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Many thanks
I'll continue to try! :)--Tokyotown8 (talk) 22:05, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

A (rather out-of-the-blue) thought
Hey, I just wondered if you'd ever though of requesting adminship? DYK could certainly use more admin help. HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   07:05, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm flattered that you'd think I might be a good admin. :) To be completely honest, though, I don't think I'd be able to cope well with the associated stress that comes with adminship, alas - I've seen some of the shenanigans they have to deal with; anybody who becomes one certainly has my respect and appreciation - and sympathies! Perhaps at some point in the future, though, when my RL life is a bit less stressful, I might think about it more. Thanks! - The Bushranger One ping only 07:07, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, hey, I'd never realised you weren't an admin. Drop me a line if you ever run, that would be an easy support. - DustFormsWords (talk) 02:45, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:Novels by Ed McBain
Re the above category, I wanted to let you know that I've started a full CFD discussion here. I wanted to notify you because I didn't copy the comments made at CFD speedy, so you may want to post a new comment in the new discussion. I explained my rationale in a bit more detail. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:34, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll have a look at it later this afternoon. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 21:34, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikiwings

 * Thanks! :) - The Bushranger One ping only 23:13, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Holiday Inn Express
Could I ask you a favor? The hotel I work in just became a Holiday Inn Express and I was interested in expanding the current Wikipedia article. After poking around Google News Archive, I found some newspaper clippings that would be good sources, but ((((horror)))) I actually discovered a mistake on the IHG website (my new corporate masters) where its claimed that Holiday Inn Express was launched in 1991. I discovered at least 3 newspaper articles where Holiday Inn Express hotels were opened in 1990 (the articles themselves were written in 1990). I added the articles as citations (you can read them in the References header, where they are links). I realized I now have a conflict of interest (not wanting to upset my corporate masters). Could you look over the links and see if you could expand the article for me? Would really appreciate it. I will continue to look for articles in Google News Archives and link them in. Gamweb (talk) 17:38, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 21:01, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK thingies

 * Hey Ranger, I saw you were moving things around to the prep areas--can you move the entry for Jeanne Galzy? It's sort of laying around there, taking up space with an open-ended discussion on a by-now unrelated point, though all editors have agreed on a hook (ALT5). Also, your TV-guided missile, that's been good to go for a while too, in case you hadn't seen it. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 01:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I assume you're referring to the JB-4 article? That actually ran in the last cycle. :) I'll handle Galzy next time if it doesn't get used before then - somebody beat me to working on prep 4! - The Bushranger One ping only 01:24, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, I hadn't seen that it was moved and frontpaged already. Hey, I am sure you thought I was being overly picky about that reference, but you know as well as anyone that people are keeping a sharp eye on things at DYK. Moreover, I wasn't very involved at DYK until the new requirement, and I'd hate to screw things up. Thanks for all your hard work there, Drmies (talk) 01:28, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * BTW, your talk page is in two categories--I haven't found them yet. Drmies (talk) 01:28, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries! Like you said, better to be too picky than not picky enough. :) ANd thanks for the catch on the cats - one was my mistake, the other (space law) snuck in through The Downlink! - The Bushranger One ping only 01:31, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * No problem at all. And thank you! - The Bushranger One ping only 05:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Re:DYK nomination of Tropical Storm Hubert
Thanks for reviewing the hook, I've responded to your comments. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 11:27, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem! And it looks good to go. - The Bushranger One ping only 11:28, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Finland Blue
Hi there I wondered if you could take moment to weigh in on a discussion were having here regarding the color of a military aircraft insignia Thank you Jetijonez (talk) 20:14, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll have a look. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 23:08, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Email question at RfA
Hi. You may be interested in contributing to or following this discussion. - DustFormsWords (talk) 05:30, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll keep an eye on it. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 05:34, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Manx2 Flight 7100 DYK
Re your comments, editing has now settled down, so this should now be ready for a tick. Mjroots (talk) 07:43, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Admin?
I saw your post at WT:DYK and was astounded to find you aren't an administrator already. I'd be happy to give a nomination if you would like to get the mop. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 08:41, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You're the second person to suggest that this week! o.o I'm flattered, but I'm not sure I have the proper personality type to deal with the stuff admins have to go through, to be honest - I get stressed out pretty easily sometimes. But maybe once RL gets a bit less stressful (long story) I'll give it another thought. Thanks though! :) - The Bushranger One ping only 08:43, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, you don't have to engage in the 'normal' admin stuff – you're allowed to only use your tools at DYK. :-) Look how often I use mine! Still, if that's your decision, so be it. Just know that my offer won't expire, feel free to ask for a nom anytime. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 08:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, that could be nifty. In that case, I may give it a further ponder when it isn't almost 4am. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 08:50, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Fine by me. I'm going back to homework so I can go to bed before 5am :P Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 08:52, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * But sleep is for the weak! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz... - The Bushranger One ping only 08:53, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * If this were Facebook, I'd 'like' that comment. As it stands, I get ten hours on weekends and 4-5 (6 if I'm lucky) on weekdays. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 08:55, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * What with the Signpost just running an article about a lack of admins, it seems a shame for you to not take up the tools. If you're worried about stressful conflict, just use them for relatively non-controversial administrative tasks, such as making DYK tick over.  At the point where everyone assumes you're an admin, it's disruptive to the project to actively thwart their expectations by refusing the mop. As with Ed above, I would be happy to nominate or co-nominate you; all it takes is for you to say that you'll (reluctantly, if necessary) go to to RfA with us. - DustFormsWords (talk) 05:39, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It's either that or we knock you over the head and drag you feet-first to RfA. Your choice. :p Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 05:48, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Kicking and screaming? :P I'll probably accept the mop (if only to turn it into a broom - inside joke there with one of my f(r)iends), so if y'all want to RfA me in the morning, well, why not? :) - The Bushranger One ping only 05:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Woot! Ed, if you've done one of these before, I'll leave the nomination to you, but if you feel it will be helpful please feel free to append my name as co-nominator.  If I see you haven't done it when I come on again in about 14 hours, I'll do it myself. - DustFormsWords (talk) 06:00, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I've done it once before, over at Requests for adminship/NativeForeigner. I'm creating it now -- if you want to co-nom, feel free to add one. :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:33, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * P.S. You should create this page with any content to satisfy the RfA edit-count lovers... (see ) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:40, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

And there it is. I know you've been around the block and know what's up at RfA, but reminders can't hurt. ;-) Do not lose your cool, no matter what people say. My email is always open for venting. Try not to respond to many opposers. Be sure to brush up on the relevant policy (or -ies) before answering a question. Good luck! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 07:43, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * And I've already supported... -- Perseus  8235 17:38, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Bushranger, would you like to transclude it? Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 20:34, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, so that's how it works. Think I did it right! - The Bushranger One ping only 23:05, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It looks like you did -- good luck! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 23:09, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Heh, yeah, that was my bad there. I meant to "bow out gracefully" one post before I did, and clearly I made one post more than I should have given the WikiStress level (which has now dropped significantly, just in time to go "oops"...). - The Bushranger One ping only 23:59, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Politically Incorrect
Love that userbox you got :)  Caden  cool  13:19, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! - The Bushranger One ping only 22:09, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Joe Baugher
What's this crap about Joe Baugher not being a RS? Just because he's a hobbyist does not make him unreliable. The sheer quantity of info presented would indicate that he takes the subject seriously and would therefore be reliable enough to use. This is backed up by his list of over 4,200 references. Mjroots (talk) 20:38, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Baugher has been raised at WP:RSN - . I see no consensus that he is not reliable there either. Mjroots (talk) 21:03, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * There's also the fact that he's been published as an expert in the field... - The Bushranger One ping only 22:09, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * That is the perfect way to prove something is reliable. Nice work. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 23:03, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks Ed. Unfortunatly, the editor in question isn't accepting the argument. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:04, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * He's already proved he's classless by bringing it up at your RFA as his major objection point. Sad. That's an issue better mentioned there in passing, and dealt with in detail elsewhere. But that seems par for the course for RFAs, and one reason I don't generally participate in them. I hope this doesn't torpedo the nom (I've seen minor issues hyped to the point that they have done so in the past), as we could certainly use another admin in WPAIR, even jsut for maintence issues such as page moves. Good luck. - BilCat (talk) 23:10, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * That'd be a she, and Sandy is one of the delegates at WP:FAC. Let's not go overboard and attack her – that's not going to help anything, least of which Bushranger's RfA. She has a major concern, and whether it is legitimate or not (in our eyes), we need to try to address it. I think RS/N is the next step, so that neutral editors can assess the site. Otherwise we will continue to rehash the same points. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 23:33, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * My problem is that it's not an issue unique to BR, as the further discussions have proven. It's still classless behavior, whether or not it is the norm for an RFC. Again, that's a major reason why I don't participate. As to her being an FAC delegate, perhaps that should be dealt with too. - BilCat (talk) 00:28, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


 * But you are right that I shouldn't have called her "classless" directly any more than she should be calling editors who use Baugher "lazy" - I'm sure you've already warned her for that as a good admin, right? - BilCat (talk) 00:33, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Nope, because I respect her opinion, even if I don't fully agree with how she is presenting it. Plus, in the grand scheme of things, constructing a strawman argument to call it "lazy" isn't a PA against a specific person and isn't the worst we have ever seen or faced. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 04:17, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


 * No, it was an attack against the project as a whole, and made on nearly venuue in which she raised this issue, and usually several times at each venue. We don't seem to have the term "Wikiproject attack", and attacking a whole project without bothering to investigate the matter more fully is not right. She made baseless assumptions, at someone's RFA no less, and that is what I am criticing, not merely her opinion. But time to move on. BR, I wish you the best in you RFA. - BilCat (talk) 06:32, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Your RfA
Just wanted to say that I'm sorry if my post at RSN results in your not gaining the tools at this time. In trying to get clarification for the use of JB as a source for aircraft histories, it was not my intention to further derail your RfA, although IMHO that had already been derailed by the extensive off-topic conversation there. Currently, you're on 84%, which is a pass, but it seems a pity that the opposes will be greater than they might otherwise have been. Mjroots (talk) 07:21, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries, man. Sometimes life happens; it's cool. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 08:06, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Personally I would like to see Wikipedia mature as a project to the point where RfA doesn't include pointed character assassination. - Ahunt (talk) 12:41, 18 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Concur. I've seen a number of good editors leave the project because of unjustifiable occurances at their RFAs. It's sad that such bad behavior is permitted in the name of "opinions", especially in what was an off-topic issue not unique to you in anyway. - BilCat (talk) 13:18, 18 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree the conduct there by one or two editors has been nasty, mean-spirited and vitriolic. The nastiness at RfA is just one reason why I declined an invitation to be put though it previously. It seems to me ironic that the process to get into my nation's military, where I had a lot of far more potent "tools" in my hands, was far less rigorous and certainly less nasty than that of RfA on Wikipedia. Add to that anything that an admin could do here can be undone, not so the work I was doing for two decades and I don't see the need for all the rough treatment. - Ahunt (talk) 14:51, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Picture of iranian fighter
Hi, My name is Darios I am User of Czech wiki []. I wrote a article about Saeqeh fighter []. I would like to add some picture of this aircraft. Is it possible to add this one? Please contact me here [] Thank you for your help.--Darios (talk) 14:25, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Template:Radioplane aircraft
BR, I've created a navbox at Template:Radioplane aircraft, and intend to sart an article on the company in time. Since you've done a lot of work on the missile and drone navboxes, I thought you night be more familar with Radioplane's products than I,a nd could help to expand the navbox to cover the myraid designations used. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 13:20, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :) I'll take a look at it as soon as I get a chance. The designations there are a disgusting mess, aren't they? - The Bushranger One ping only 19:15, 18 February 2011 (UTC)


 * And thank you. I know you've had other matters commanding your attention, so I'm not expecting immediate help. I had noticed there wasn't a comapny article or a navbox, and the navbox was the easiest thing to create in a short time. Thankfully, we've know deadlines for articles and templates. - BilCat (talk) 05:03, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

two missed categories
FYI, you missed Category:Modern mortars and Category:Modern nuclear bombs of the United States in your recent renames/deletions of "modern" weapons categories. They were tagged, but not nominated. --Mike Selinker (talk) 15:36, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Egads. Thanks for catching that! I'll list them right away. - The Bushranger One ping only 17:03, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Prep2
The lead picture in prep2 doesn't seem to work in 100x100px (tried to crop, but still not happy). It is a possible quirky hook for another set, isn't? Materialscientist (talk) 04:52, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. That's a good point, actually. I'll swap it out. Thanks for the tip. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 06:24, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. And I didn't even realise the replacement hook was one of yours until I went to transfer the DYKmake! - The Bushranger One ping only 06:31, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikiproject Invitation
Hello! Thank you for all your work on NASCAR related articles. Since then I would like you to join us at WikiProject NASCAR. If you would like to please join here, and if you would like to recieve a production of the newsletter, please add your name here. You may also like to display User WP NASCAR. By the way, congrats on the DYKs.  Nascar 1996   04:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Joining up. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 06:03, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

The Bugle: Volume LVIX, January 2011
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U.S. Route 19 & U.S. Route 19E in North Carolina
Your R3 sensor needs recalibration. Did you check what linked to the page? How about the talk page for the user that did the erroneous page move? The redirect will need deleting so that Dough4872 can move the page back, but it won't be an R3. I'm going to let him undo his mess because there are a dozen other related page moves, redirects and article edits. —UncleDouggie (talk) 07:57, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I did indeed check what linked to the page, and fixed the links that were redirects to the page before deleting it, bar the Wikipedia 1.0 team pages, which I assumed a bot or somebody involved in the project should get. I'll make a note to always check the user talk page first from now on; apologies, and thanks for the note. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 08:00, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * How can a bot fix something if there's no redirect for it to follow? One of the purposes of redirects is to prevent such breakage. That said, I now see that you're a newly minted admin. I hate it when others jump on something a new admin has done and here I've gone and done it myself! Please accept my apologies for not using the utmost kindness. —UncleDouggie (talk) 08:15, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I assumed (there's that word again, whoops!) that the bot would simply remove redlinks, but I do see your point. Apology accepted, and no worries! :) - The Bushranger One ping only 08:17, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear, even if you had changed the editorial links, this is a redirect that shouldn't have been deleted because it's not a "Recently-created, implausible redirect" per R3. "Recently created" in this case refers to when the original page was created, not the redirect. There could be many incoming links on the web that we're not aware of. Also, it's not implausible. I've edited this article and it's very likely that I would try to search for it using the old name. Without the redirect, I would have no way to find where it went unless I remembered the exact punctuation to look it up in the page move log. In this case of course, I happened to have it on my watchlist. —UncleDouggie (talk) 08:30, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah. Those are good points, and I'll certainly bear them in mind when coming across redirects from now on. Thanks for the help! - The Bushranger One ping only 08:32, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Awikipro
As an admin who is online NOW, could you take a look at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents? This "professional wiki editor" is spamming his services to any and every new account he can find. mass reversion of his "welcome" template for many user talk pages may be needed. Wuh Wuz Dat 08:35, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh dear. That is a problem. But I just got the tools a couple of hours ago and I'm still feeling them out - I will second that opinion at AN/I though! - The Bushranger One ping only 08:39, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

User:Shello43534543
I gave this user a warning on not using his account for spamming purposes. Unless his behavior has continued after I gave this warning, could you consider unblocking him to give him a chance at contributing constructively? I know that sometimes newcomers do not understand the policies that guide Wikipedia, and that it can be hard to adjust at first. Of course, if his behavior has continued, keep the block in place, but perhaps consider topic banning him before an outright block (Remember WP:DBN). Regards,-- Novus   Orator     11:12, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I took a look at his contribs before banning him - inserting a full paragraph about "buy NFL Jerseys from [addresss]" into multiple articles on a range of topics sounds fairly blatant. However, given everything (and now fully caffinated), I decided to shorten the block to expire this afternoon, and we'll see what happens. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 15:12, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Gaokelanqiu and Gklq
Can you please have a look at these articles. I have tagged them both for WP:CSD, but I see that you have deleted at least one of them before. It seems that the creator, User talk:Eyxtsai has removed the CSD tags him or herself without complying with the policy relating to article creators removing these tags and using "hang-on" tags instead several times and has vandalized your user page as well. Looking at their Special:Contributions/Eyxtsai it seems this is hoax/vandalism-only account and I would ask you to consider deleting both these articles and blocking them. - Ahunt (talk) 12:57, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I was willing to WP:AGF that it was just a well-meaning newbie last night (plus needed sleep), but given the repeated offenses, I've blocked them for 48 hours. Also, heh, my first user-page vandalism. Thanks Bil for catching it! - The Bushranger One ping only 15:16, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for taking care of it! Now you qualify to proudly add this userbox:


 * It correctly identifies the type of page it is placed on! - Ahunt (talk) 16:27, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

RFA
Hi, as its late in the day I didn't want this to get lost in the mist, so to speak. As there is some degree of oppose comments and some neutral also, I am neutral ish myself, would you make a comment there to accept recall in some form, just as a good faith declaration? Off2riorob (talk) 17:25, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Consider it done. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:09, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that, I went bold and supported, take your time, be an invisible mopping admin and learn the ropes and enjoy. Off2riorob (talk) 23:27, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

A consensus has been reached by your peers that you should be an admin. I have made it so. Please review Administrators' reading list and keep up the great work. Sincerely, Kingturtle = (talk) 05:58, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Congratulations! I look forward to bothering you with my admin requests in the near future! :-) - DustFormsWords (talk) 06:04, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Ditto! Now, van you move ... :) - BilCat (talk) 06:52, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, I could move. But I think instead I'll just keep sitting right here. ;P - The Bushranger One ping only 07:22, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks everybody! :-D - The Bushranger One ping only 06:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Admin T-shirt.svg Congratulations! Uniform issue T-shirt for you. Mjroots (talk) 06:17, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Heh. I'll wear it proudly. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 06:53, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Congrats! StrPby (talk) 07:06, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! - The Bushranger One ping only 07:22, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Congratulations!--Antidiskriminator (talk) 07:53, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you! - The Bushranger One ping only 07:56, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * YES! Congratulations – I know you will wield the mop well! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 09:00, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Ed! It's an honor to be able to wield the mop and defend Wikipedia. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 09:04, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll just offer my congratulations too. Although I didn't support, I have no doubt you'll make a fine admin and hopefully won't get too stressed! Good luck for the future <font color="#000">Worm  <font color="#000">TT  09:38, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :) The WikiStress meter is something I'm going to be keeping a close eye on, you can be sure. - The Bushranger One ping only 09:39, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Congatualtions and thanks for donating your time and effort to Wikipedia. We sincerly appreciate your efforts. -  Hydroxonium  ( H3O+ ) 09:58, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll add my congratulations as well - look forward to requests to block, move pages, etc. - Ahunt (talk) 12:32, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Well done Bushranger it will be nice to have another admin share the work on the aircraft project and being in a slightly different time zone will be a great help to the project. MilborneOne (talk) 13:00, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Good luck with your new job! I'm sure you will do fine. Reaper Eternal (talk) 13:10, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Congrats! If I had known about the RfA while it was still active, I would have offered my support.  bahamut0013  <sup style="color:#000;margin-left:-1px">words <sub style="color:#000;margin-left:-16px">deeds 14:29, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Congrats. I'm glad you decided to run and I'm sure DYK will be more efficient with your help. Let me know if you need a hand with anything, and feel free to raid my monobook.js. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   14:46, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Excellent! Happy to hear you now have keys to the janitor's closet! Binksternet (talk) 14:54, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Whatever. :P You're gonna want to add these to your monobook.js: In order, they make credit-giving easier (if the DYK bot dies), lets you see the proze size of an article, makes closing AfDs easier, and makes closing DRVs easier. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 23:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks everybody! :) - The Bushranger One ping only 15:12, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Con-*sneeze*-grat-*cough*-ulations Bushra-*sneeze*-nger! Sorry I'm very sick today. -- Perseus  8235 16:20, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, yeah – take HJ's thought and do it (I'm assuming you use vector, there are different pages for monobook etc.). Some of the tools, like the AfD closing script, are invaluable to admins. :-) I've got that and a DRV closing script if you'd like to use them. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 16:24, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! I know you'll be a great admin.-RHM22 (talk) 17:46, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd like to add my congratulations&mdash;I have no doubt you'll wield the mop well! <font style="font-family:Impact"> wacky wace  19:46, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks y'all. Ed - I actually use MonoBook. Can't stand Vector! =P - The Bushranger One ping only 21:43, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * importScript('User:Ameliorate!/dykeasymode.js'); // User:Ameliorate!/dykeasymode.js
 * importScript('User:Dr pda/prosesize.js'); // User:Dr pda/prosesizebytes.js
 * importScript('User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD.js'); // User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD
 * importScript('User:Lifebaka/closedrv.js'); // User:Lifebaka/closedrv.js
 * I'll certainly see about adding those. Right now, though, I'm waiting for whatever broke Twinkle et al to get fixed. Grr. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:33, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Removal of speedy on
Hi, I just wanted to let you know that your reason for removal of my G12 speedy tag on Jurong West Bus Interchange (edit summary: rm speedy tag - the site claimed as being copied from is another Wikipedia article) was incorrect. Unless it's properly attributed, the article is a copyvio. Copying within Wikipedia has more information about this. I'm not going to restore the speedy, though. I'll leave that up to you... --- c y m r u . l a s s  (talk me, stalk me) 00:23, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, that is a fair point. Not sure I'd call it a copyvio, but that is a problem. I think I know an alternative way to fix it. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 00:25, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually...looking it over more thoroughly, copy policy or not it appears to need to be deleted anyway - as the only change was replacing "east" with "west". And therefore it's not only G12 based on the copy policy, but A10... - The Bushranger One ping only 00:29, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * All right, sounds good to me! --- c y m r u . l a s s  (talk me, stalk me) 02:09, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

LodgeNet redirects
Hello, I have a concern about the redirects I marked to speedily delete. I used a deletion rationale I believed to be accurate because of the fact that no articles link to it. Would the standard have been the most appropriate template to apply or another? Also, could you delete the lowercase versions, since they are not correct? I noticed you just became an administrator yesterday, so it would be a big help. Readopedia (talk) 05:23, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The general consensus is that redirects are cheap, and there's no harm in leaving them. The lowercase versions actually help - if somebody comes across one on the Web, or types it in in lowercase, it'll redirect them to the page at the correct title. :) (Don't worry if some are "double redirects" at the moment, a bot fixes those.) As a rule, unless it's a wildly implausible term, it's best to leave a redirect in place. - The Bushranger One ping only 05:25, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Removal of the IARP article
Dear senior editor, the article on the International Aging Research Portfolio (IARP) was removed on G21 copyright violation. It was submitted by the technical director of the project, Konstantin Romantsov. He is new to Wikipedia and does not know how to deal with the issue. Neither do I, because Wiki changed a lot since my last edit a few years ago. The IARP system is open-access and non-profit, there is never any advertising. Any part of it can be taken without a license. It was built by volunteers to help advance aging research and specifically cancer and Alzheimers. The resource is very much like PubMed.Org, but it is independent and not funded by any government. Over 50 people contributed to the project, but it is not a legal entity and there is no owner. A wiki entry is important, because it will be easier for scientists to find it. Can you please let us know how to fix this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dnamo (talk • contribs) 03:36, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, if you want to use the exact copyrighted text from your website, you need to contact OTRS to grant permission for it to be used. I'm a relatively new admin, so you might want to talk to somebody more experienced - User:The ed17 or User:Materialscientist might be able to help. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 04:30, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Dear The Bushranger, if you check the article, only a part of it was taken from About of the website, most of it was original. Can you bring it back and Konstantin will remove the sections from About and replace them with 100% original content? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.123.231.129 (talk) 10:27, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I've restored the article as a stub in a userbox sandbox here. I must caution you, though, that the site does not appear to be notable by Wikipedian standards, and that editing a page about something you are closely associated with is strongly discouraged. I'd strongly reccomend reading WP:CRYSTAL, WP:PRIMARY, WP:RS and WP:GNG before proceeding as well. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 23:36, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

WP:NASCAR Newsletter (February 2011)
Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of WikiProject NASCAR at 00:09, 25 February 2011 (UTC).

Thanks!
Thanks for deleting all my old userspace drafts. I have been meaning to tag them for a while but never got around to it till today. Congrats of the adminship, too. Looks like you're already making good use of the mop! --E♴ (talk) 02:15, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries, glad to help. :) And thanks! - The Bushranger One ping only 02:17, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Arizona 404 and 505...
That editor created a half-dozen redirects to the 505 article, all of which I've tagged for deletion.  Imzadi 1979  →   05:45, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Gaah. I'm on the case! - The Bushranger One ping only 05:46, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks.  Imzadi 1979  →   06:24, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion decline
Re: Your determination here, The administrator deciding the same for Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Union County, Ohio decided differently. I would argue these categories are not the type we should have around empty. For one, these categories are not intended to become empty on occasion. I guess the normal use for this category would be that someone finds an article related to the US virgin islands and decides that it doesn't have enough pictures, so tags it. At some point, all articles in that location will have enough pictures so a category like this becomes unnecessary (and empty). Might it get new members in the future? Yes, but it can be recreated or restored if that happens. I would really view this as a G6 deletion once a category like this becomes empty. Perhaps you could reconsider? 69.59.200.77 (talk) 19:04, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd contend that there is a difference between a county-level pics needed category, and a state/territory-level pics-needed category. There are other categories of this type in existiance that already have the the "maintience category - may be empty, please do not delete" tag; in addition, the imageneeded template automatically add pages to the "photos needed in VI" category if checked. Deleting the category would, therefore, break the template. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:07, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * By "break the template" do you mean it would simply add the page to a redlinked category? I don't think that would be "breaking" it, but rather just showing that it needs to be re-created or restored, a fairly simple task. I think I'm more of an eventualist thinking that, assuming we had every VI article possible and they were all featured status, this category would essentially be useless and would never be populated (except perhaps for an article about a recent event in the VI) so I think it would definitely qualify for G6/C1 then. Now that's obviously not the case yet, but I think it is hard to place a subjective standard like that on determining when to delete it, and the regular 4 day C1 standard should probably apply. This could very well go months, or even years, without being populated. Finally, as for "there are similar categories with the "do not delete as empty" template", I don't doubt that is the case.  However, I will also contend that the empty category template being placed is not something patrolled by many users and someone could probably add that to many "borderline" categories such as these and nobody would think twice, whether that should actually be the case or not. 69.59.200.77 (talk) 19:48, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I can understand your point, and agree that there is a "borderline". IMHO this straddles it though - if it's going to be deleted, it might be best to have a discussion at WP:CFD about the matter? - The Bushranger One ping only 19:49, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

CoI?
PLEASE READ CAREFULLY Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unotretre (talk • contribs) 21:01, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Goalzz

 * Why you deleted the wikipage Goalzz!!!?? it is the first arabic sports website in the Middle East!!! According to Alexa,It is ranked 298 worldwide! If you can send to me the content of the page you deleted, please send it to me. --Salah Almhamdi (talk) 00:08, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Being the first Arabic-lanugage sports website does not establish notability, nor does an Alexa rating; the page as it was was also nothing more than a promotional page for the site. However I will restore the page to your userspace for it to be worked on and improved. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 23:10, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The page has been restored to your userspace here. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:12, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you! You are an understanding editor. --Salah Almhamdi (talk) 00:08, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

2nd opinion needed.
I'm having some issues with a reviewer over at Talk:Tupolev Tu-75/GA1. As an aviation guy who's worked on a lot articles on prototypes, I'd appreciate your input whenever you get a chance.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 23:29, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Will do! Funny that, I was just about to ask you to take another look at JB-4, since I've added some information you mentioned in its B-class review and wondered if it could stand a bump up. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:30, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Danke
Thanks so much for helping out with that page protection. It's been a source of endless annoyance (although it did serve as a good way to track the editors who would go on to vandalize disney articles.) Danke!--Yaksar (let's chat) 04:19, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Glad to help! - The Bushranger One ping only 04:20, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Move
Hi, The Talk:Nativity_of_Jesus requested move is over 7 days old. Could you close it please? Thanks. History2007 (talk) 18:19, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Consider it done. - The Bushranger One ping only 10:00, 27 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you. History2007 (talk) 10:10, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK 50 Medal

 * Glad to help! :) - The Bushranger One ping only 19:05, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

86.174.141.58
Thanks for jumping on that IP editor so quickly - they're removing all the warnings from their talk page, tho. This is generally the case with them every time they get blocked - FYI... TheRealFennShysa (talk) 21:09, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Felix
His demand for an "apology" for an SPI that certainly looked reasonable to file, is not only another nail in his coffin, it's also kind of familiar. There have been other editors that demanded some sort of retribution against those who filed SPI's that turned out "negative". That, of course, isn't done. I'm not saying he's anyone else's sock. Just that it's a somewhat-too-familiar ploy used by indefees sometimes. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:31, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I did notice that. I don't see the need for anybody to apologise for good-faith actions taken on the basis of the evidence, particulary since I already said, quite honestly too, that I'm happy the CU turned up negative. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:19, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of article
You recently deleted American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry because it was tagged with db-spam. The problem is, this was not a new page. It was an existing page on a notable organization that had recently had some spammy content added to it. I feel the more reasonalble thing to do would be to restore it, and revert to a pre-spam revision. This one should suffice. Would you consider undeleting please? --Selket Talk 23:00, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * ...aaah, I see. Another case of an IP drive-by tagging the article. Sorry about that, undeletion coming up in a jiffy! - The Bushranger One ping only 23:01, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Indira Awaaz Yojana
Thank you for the speedy deletion of the above article

abhishek singh (talk) 23:45, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

WikiCup 2011 February newsletter
So begins round two of the WikiCup! We now have eight pools, each with eight random contestants. This round will continue until the end of April, when the top two of each pool, as well as the next 16 highest scorers of those remaining, will make it to round three. Congratulations to (first, with 487 points) and  (second, with 459), who stormed the first round. finished third with 223. Twelve others finished with over 100 points- well done to all of you! The final standings in round one can be seen here. A mere 8 points were required to reach round two; competition will no doubt be much more fierce this round, so be ready for a challenge! A special thanks goes, again, to for dealing with all bot work. This year's bot, as well as running smoothly, is doing some very helpful things that last year's did not. Also, thanks to for some helpful behind-the-scenes updating and number crunching.

Some news for those who are interested- March will see a GAN backlog elimination drive, which you are still free to join. Organised by WikiProject Good articles, the drive aims to minimise the GAN backlog and offers prizes to those who help out. Of course, you may well be able to claim WikiCup points for the articles you review as part of the drive. Also ongoing is the Great Backlog Drive, looking to work on clearing all of the backlogs on Wikipedia; again, incentives are offered, and the spirit of friendly competition is alive, while helping the encyclopedia is the ultimate aim. Though unrelated to the WikiCup, these may well be of interest to some of you.

Just a reminder of the rules; if you have done significant work on content this year and it is promoted in this round, you may claim for it. Also, anything that was promoted after the end of round one but before the beginning of round two may be claimed for in round two. Details of the rules can be found on this page. For those interested in statistics, a running total of claims can be seen here, and a very interesting table of that information (along with the highest scorers in each category) can be seen here. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 23:51, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Belated congratulations
Belatedly, please accept my congratulations on your adminship. If there's anything that I or the Foundation staff can do to assist you, please let me know! Best wishes, Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 04:13, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you, sir! :) - The Bushranger One ping only 04:16, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Belated congratulations from me as well - it's well deserved. Nick-D (talk) 11:00, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Ahmed Tarek Bahgat Abaza
The consensus at Articles for deletion/Ahmed Tarek Bahgat Abaza was to delete before you relisted the debate. Is there any reason you relisted the AfD instead of closing it as delete? Additionally, you advanced a position at the AfD after relisting it. As a general rule of thumb, after admins relist discussions, they do not participate in them to avoid accusations of impropriety. See Deletion review/Log/2011 January 29 for instance and Ron Ritzman's comment at 23:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC). Cunard (talk) 08:57, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah. I was unaware of that, I'll certainly keep that in mind from now on, and I'll strike my !vote as soon as I get done posting this. As for the relisting, I gave serious thought to just out-and-out closing it on the spot, but thought that allowing it to run through another week and collect more delete !votes might cut down on the protests from the vocal !keep lobby. Now I realise that was the wrong move, of course...ah well. Sorry about that, and I'll try to be a bit bolder in the future. - The Bushranger One ping only 09:00, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries. I notice you're a newly minted admin so making mistakes is typical. I agree that you should have closed instead of relisted the AfD (your vote looked like a closing statement). The SPAs will never be satisfied when their precious article is deleted in one week's time. A word of warning: Statements like "allowing it to run through another week and collect more delete !votes ..." may get you into trouble at DRV. Though you have pure intentions of establishing a firmer consensus, this statement implies that you've had a strong bias prior to relisting the discussion and relisted it in the hopes of increasing the chances of getting the result you want. This is obviously not the case since the consensus was to delete prior to the relist. However, if you make such a statement in a future AfD, some editors will use it at Deletion review to argue for overturning the close. Just a little friendly advice from someone who has observed DRV for a while. Cunard (talk) 09:51, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I appreciate that. I make a point to learn as much as I can from as many people as I can, so that at least when I make future mistakes they'll be new ones! - The Bushranger One ping only 22:16, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Improper Deletion of Sri Devananda Goudiya Math and Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math
Sir,

It apperars that the Article Sri Devananda Goudiya Math since, nominated for speedy deletion, it was deleted because of the reason that the article was a repost of material of another article Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math that was previously deleted following a deletion debate.

Therefore, the questions arise that -

(1) What was the grounds, considered favourable, in said deletion debate, supporting deletion of the previous article Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math and correspondingly the instant article Sri Devananda Goudiya Math also?

(2) Whether, such grounds has been established as valid grounds to deleted such of an Article Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math as per Wikipedia's prevailing deletion policy?

To address these issues, let us look on the basis of which such deletion was taken effect. Accordingly, concerned deletion debate concluded the grounds as, (i) Non notable pilgrimage site (ii) have no independent reliable sources to comply with the policy on inclusion (iii) whether there was an independent article or a book written about the subject there could be a reason (iv) No third-party WP:RS to assert its notability (v) This particular Matha is not particularly notable (vi) whether readers can check that material in Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source (vii) verifiability. Also see reviewers quotes below.

In short those grounds were (a) verifiability, not truth (b) independent reliable sources(c) policy on inclusion.

However, if Wikipedia's prevailing deletion policy is considered and the validity of the concerned deletion grounds need to be established, then reasonably it will rather be found that the decision in deleting the Article Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math was improper and invalid. They have not considered the following:-

(1) Valid verifiability or policy on inclusion e.g.

(2) independent reliable sources e.g.


 * Navadvipa: Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math, Navadvipa Tourist Places to Visit for Religious
 * Sacred Sites of India - 47 Navadip; Dhameswara Shri Chaitanya temple, Devananda Gaudiya Math
 * Virtual Tours to Holy India - Sri Devananda Gaudiya Matha.
 * New Zealand Hare Krishna Spiritual Resource Network
 * Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math, Navadvipa tourist places to visit for Religious...
 * Broadcasting International Television - Isckon in Devananda Gaudiya Math with Srila Narayana...
 * Sri Devananda Gaudiya Matha Srila Gurudeva arrival


 * The mother of the Gaudiya Mathas - Sri Devananda Gaudiya Matha.
 * Navadvipa Parikrama 2010 - Sripad Madhava Maharaja translated into English Srila Gurudeva’s short Bengali discourse.
 * Sri Srimad Bhakti Prajnana Kesava Goswami - The founder of Sri Devananda Gaudiya Matha.
 * The Historical Background - Sri Devananda Gaudiya Matha and Sri Gaudiya Vedanta Samiti
 * VNN Editorial - Srila Sridhardev left his company by 1938-39 and started Devananda Gaudiya Math with Bhakti Prajnana Kesava Maharaja in 1940.
 * Parikrama to Devananda Gaudiya Matha
 * Navadvipa: Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math, Navadvipa Tourist Places to Visit for Religious
 * The Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya Disciplic Succession and Its Unique Characteristics of Which We are a Part

Administrators/Reviewers quotes:-

User:Wikidas said, "Non notable pilgrimage site, too small and have no independent reliable sources to comply with the policy on inclusion. Wikidas© 23:41, 7 January 2011 (UTC)".

He further said, "I guess if there was an independent article or a book written about the subject there could be a reason, or a possible reason to keep it."

User:Redtigerxyz said, "Searched the internet. Found no third-party WP:RS to assert its notability. The references in the article are not really RS. 1 mentions the temple in passing reference, the other calls it a "scared" place.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 15:11, 19 January 2011 (UTC)"

User:Wikidas further suggested me, "This particular Matha (out of hundreds) is not particularly notable. See: WP:V. "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth; that is, whether readers can check that material in Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source." I am sure you visited this building. But there are no sources for your claims. Can you please use google books or some other source and find more sources that are published by reliable publishers? . Wikidas© 10:33, 22 January 2011 (UTC)"

The deletion was prejudiced and biased as well. A bonafide article such as Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math has been deleted by the inefficient observation of some biased administration that ultimately injuring Wikipedia.

Snthakur ( সৌমেন্দ্র নাথ ঠাকুর ) (talk) 12:05, 1 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Looking through those links, I don't believe that any of the sites, except possibly VNN, are reliable sources. Youtube, in particular, is not a reliable source. That said, if you believe the deletion was improper, you might want to consider deletion review. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:15, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations

 * Thanks! - The Bushranger One ping only 22:12, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Userspace Drafts
Thanks for deleting my old userspace drafts! I think there may be others I've forgotten about but I'll find them eventually :) --E♴ (talk) 14:57, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem! - The Bushranger One ping only 22:12, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Hey
Can you please block User:Ouou9529, and User:Msmsmstruth too, Thanks, <font color="#000000">Passionless <font color="#D70A53">-Talk  02:48, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The ducks are quacking. Done. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:52, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * User:Anakites...<font color="#000000">Passionless <font color="#D70A53">-Talk  03:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It's whack-a-mole! If one more pops up he'll get autoblocked on the IP. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:09, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

delete
Any possible way you can delete the main pages of the css and js talk pages you just deleted from my userspace? Ajltalk 02:51, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you mean this page? - The Bushranger One ping only 02:53, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * That and this one, please. Ajltalk 02:59, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * They're gone. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 03:00, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you much! Face-smile.svg Ajltalk 03:01, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Re: Barnstar
Shucks, thank you. I'm glad that was entertaining to someone. I worry misquoting might later come around to bite me in the backside on this one, so it's good it had at least that benefit! - Vianello (Talk) 02:56, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

User:Rs2010 jfp/Revere Security
Hi there, thanks for deleting the page. However I still see the page showing up in google search, is there anything that can be done to stop/prevent this ?? I was working on this page as a draft and the page was nominated for speedy delete and ever since then has been showing up in google search and it wont go away. Thanks in advance Rs2010 jfp (talk) 05:22, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It'll go away in, oh, between 24-72 hours, most likely. Google's Spiders take a bit of time to make their way through Wikipedia and determine the page no longer exists. - The Bushranger One ping only 05:28, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for everything : ) Rs2010 jfp (talk) 05:32, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * Thanks! - The Bushranger One ping only 05:28, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Qbone
Hello. I notice that on closing the AFD on Qbone you've redirected it to Pokémon: please note that it's already been redirected there twice before and twice reverted, which is why I took it to AFD. Thanks, Shire Reeve (talk) 08:21, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I only see one revert, but it's a fair point. My reasoning for redirecting was that it's a reasonable enough search term and long-established redirect; maybe semi-protecting might keep well-meaning IPs and new editors from doing it again? - The Bushranger One ping only 08:24, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, you're right: just one revert. Protection as a compromise is OK by me, thanks. Shire Reeve (talk) 08:29, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem, glad to help! :) - The Bushranger One ping only 08:29, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

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List of armored cruisers of Germany
I finished up the article and moved it into article space. I'm going to be pretty busy for the next month or so, so I'm going to let it sit for a while before it goes to A-class and FLC. Thanks for helping out with it. Parsecboy (talk) 15:46, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, and in case you're interested, what I'm thinking of eventually doing is moving List of cruisers of Germany to Cruisers of Germany, which will be more of an overview of German cruiser design and operational use from circa 1880 to 1945 with sub-lists at List of light cruisers of Germany, List of heavy cruisers of Germany, etc. Essentially, the idea is the main "list" article won't be a list, it'll just be what would have been the introduction section of the List of cruisers of Germany article, with all of the subsections split off into their own lists. Parsecboy (talk) 15:50, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Ohhh. That's not a bad idea to adopt for my South American dreadnoughts so it includes the arms race but also everything else... Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 20:43, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


 * No worries. Glad I was able to help out! Those old german ACs (especially Fürst Bismarck) are some of my favourite ships. That organisation scheme makes sense, too (but don't forget List of protected cruisers of Germany! ;) ). - The Bushranger One ping only 22:33, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, Bushranger. I'm about finished up with my class (I wrapped up my research paper earlier today) and am ready to get back into the fray. I just put the list up for ACR - you're more than welcome to jump in as a co-nom if you like. Oh, and nice work in the contest last month. Parsecboy (talk) 00:53, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! And I might do that. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 00:54, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * You know what? I just realized SMS Markgraf was promoted to A-class in February, but I forgot to put it in for the contest. That would have put my five points ahead instead of the other way around. Oh well, guess that should teach me to pay attention :) Parsecboy (talk) 01:08, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Ouch! Wanna call it a tie then? =P - The Bushranger One ping only 01:11, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

FYI
I forgot to mention, I added a section on my Userpage where you can post your apology for accusing me of socking (here: User:Felixhonecker). No hurry but if you could get that up by end-of-week that would be great. Thanks! Felixhonecker (talk) 18:37, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but since the action was taken in good faith based on the evidence, I don't believe an apology is needed. As alreadly mentioned on your talk page, I'm quite happy I was proved wrong. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:42, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry you feel that way and I obviously have no choice but to accept your refusal to provide a short, 7 or 8 word apology for inaccurately denouncing me in public as a sock and creating for me considerable time and heartache in lobbying for my defense. I will leave the section on my Userpage for the time being in case you have a change of heart. Thank you for your prompt reply. Felixhonecker (talk) 20:08, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I pointed out that out to Felix also, and he says he's intending to complain to ANI because I keep teling him stuff that he doesn't want to hear. If an admin tells me to back off, I will. I suspect his career here is going to be short, but that's show biz. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:35, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Intelligence
I've noticed your work in Intelligence an would like to ask you if you would like to join the WikiProject Intelligence. If you would or would not like to join, please comment on my talk page. Thanks. Gabesta449  edits  ♦  chat  02:05, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Oobi at Work
Why did you delete the page Oobi at Work? It is not vandalism or any other type of vandalism-related things. The videos are real videos on YouTube, and I have watched them. The information was all found on Oobi at Work Wiki (a site created by the creator of the Oobi at Work videos), and the episodes, characters, plots, and other information sources on the article were all from that site. I even stated in my first edit summary that the page could be flagged for cleanup, because it was the first article I started on my own. I am sorry about the infobox template if it is wrong...I have no experience editing in "Source" mode all the time, considering I work on Wikia more than Wikipedia. Please tell me about any questions you have about the article's quality standards if you need to. --Weemer (talk) 22:12, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The concern about the page is that the subject is likely not notable, and the specific result that led to it being deleted under the CSD criterion is that the page made no credible assertion of their being notable. I do agree that it was a borderline case for CSD, however the article merely stated that "these exist, based on X, and are on YouTube". WP:ITEXISTS is insufficient rationaile for a Wikipedia page on a subject; other wikis (or, for that matter, Wikipedia itself) are not reliable sources, and information provided by the subject of a page or its creator is a primary source and thus does not establish notability. Now, as I said, this was a borderline A7 case; if you still believe, considering the above guidelines, that the videos deserve a page, I can undelete the article and allow it to go through the full AfD process to determine if it should be kept. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:08, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I do believe that the video series deserves a page, even considering the guidelines you typed. I think an article should be created about the videos because, as stated by the series' creator Oobiatwork, that the series will continue on until Autumn 2011, meaning that the series may become a large event in YouTube videos. Please undelete the page, --Weemer (talk) 23:16, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I've undeleted the page, however I believe it should go through the full AfD process, and have nominated it, given the article unfortunatly appears to fail Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Videos hosted on YouTube are explicitly stated as failing Internet content notability guidelines. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:24, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

BR: you can note that the article has completed AFD and has been deleted. We didn't deal with List of Oobi at Work videos, but since the main article was "non-notable" and this one has no refs I have nominated it for CSD under A7. Perhaps you can have a look and if you are satisfied then delete it to close this subject? - Ahunt (talk) 21:49, 4 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Looks like Admin User:Ronhjones deleted it about two minutes after I tagged it! Let's just say "case closed" for now! - Ahunt (talk) 21:57, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * How about "case is cerrado"? ;) - The Bushranger One ping only 22:14, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * "Fowl play"??? - Ahunt (talk) 22:22, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Frank Olson
On what do you base your comment that "The source does not appear to be reliable. " in the justification for re-inserting the dubious tag? DaveApter (talk) 17:06, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The fact that it's a "the CIA killed somebody to shut them up" stated as fact, sourced to a online book. Now, the book was published, but by Trine Day, whose website states TrineDay is a small publishing house that arose as a response to the consistent refusal of the corporate press to publish many interesting, well-researched and well-written books with but one key “defect”: a challenge to official history that would tend to rock the boat of America’s corporate “culture. . Other TrineDay-published books include America’s Secret Establishment and The 9/11 Mystery Plane and the Vanishing of America - this is hardly what one would call a well-established, reputable publishing house, rather one on the WP:FRINGE. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:23, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Did you not notice?
You blocked User:99.90.155.91 for edits to Trevor Bayne. Did you miss the edits by the other editor involved in that exchange, Nascar1996? Check this out and count the number of Times Nascar violated 3RR. Fair's fair, or should be. Moriori (talk) 20:23, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Ordinarially, it would be a "you're edit warring - take it to the talk page and sort it out" to both parties, yes. But this wasn't a content dispute - it was vandalism on the IP's part, and reverting of vandalism on 1996's part. WP:3RR explicitly excludes that: Reverting obvious vandalism—edits that any well-intentioned user would agree constitute vandalism, such as page blanking is not a violation - The Bushranger One ping only 22:17, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It was a content dispute. Nothing more, nothing less. Moriori (talk) 22:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunatly, it wasn't. Blanking large parts of the page because "it's already there in the lede", and doing it repeatedly despite being asked to stop and even talking about it on the talk page, is vandalism. There was no "content" being disputed, no facts being changed - two entire paragraphs were being excised and restored. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:24, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I recognise you are new to the mop, but do suggest you read all facts surrounding such tete a tetes and in particular check out edit histories of both parties. You would have noticed the following warning an admin of many year's standing placed on Nascar's page:
 * Nascar, you need to be a lot more careful. You can't just keep undoing edits if you disagree with someone. It's called edit warring. There's a 3 revert rule that you must adhere to. The only possible exception is if it's clear vandalism. In no way does editing over a content dispute justify it. Manual of Style is no reason. A one paragraph lead vs 2-3 is no reason. Also, calling someone a vandal is something that you need to be VERY careful about. Manual of Style or other content issues/disputes does not equal vandalism. I hope you are a lot more careful. I haven't known you to act like you've been lately. Is everything okay?  Royal broil  03:46, 4 March 2011 (UTC)"
 * You would also see that Nascar has been very problematic in his short time here, demonstrating ownership, removing warnings from his talk page, removing tags, deliberately uploading copyrighted images etc. He seems to have a problem, so perhaps he won't be editing for long anyway. I have been an admin for five years, and I guess I have mellowed. A few year's back I may have blocked both of them for disruption, but not one, or the other. You're new, and keen which is a plus for wiki. I hope you see this as friendly advice. Moriori (talk) 23:26, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I went by the "I know it when I see it" philosophy - had I come across somebody making those edits (the blanking) myself, then I would have assumed it vandalism and assumed that 3RR didn't apply per the vandalism exemption. But you do have a point - and it is borderline now that I've looked at it more. I'll try to be more careful in the future, and thanks for the note. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 23:32, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * After noticing this commnent, I probably will be leaving. It seems like my time here was completely wortheless, and was just a waste of time. I plan be going out quietly, until I am gone completely, unless something persuades me to stay. I have always felt like what I did was not even needed. -- Nascar <font color=" #1234aa">1996   01:51, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry to hear that. :( Your contributions are certainly not completely worthless; I hope you feel better soon. It was my mistake here, not yours. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:53, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Per the above they have; since I have been problematic, I assume I'm not edit worthy. With this coming here, and just small frustrating things in real life, I am really frustraded. -- Nascar <font color=" #1234aa">1996   02:04, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Since I want to stay here, can someone help me. During my first hundred edits, I didn't know of the policy; however, now I do and I still removed the edit warnings and added copyrighted photos. I don't want to be problematic at all, and I wasn't planning to be. Demonstrating ownership is completely my fault. I want the articles to stay similar because I know that it was pretty good (as in I was trying to keep the article's class up). Such as on the 2011 Daytona 500 article, the changes didn't make any sense in my opinion. -- Nascar <font color=" #1234aa">1996   14:40, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Gabe Lewis
Thanks for your help with the Gabe Lewis-O'Connor copyvio. The newbie author has now moved it to Gabe Lewis (Facebook), whose content was properly reverted as non-notable, but now redirects to Gabe Lewis (The Office) with which it has nothing to do. Can this be deleted as r3, a7, g12, or any combination thereof? I've left a message on the editor's talk page. Thanks. Station1 (talk) 23:10, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Aaugh. It might be worth looking to see if there's any other pages he's moved and messed up this way? I'll revert it back and protect it. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:14, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I put an r3 on Gabe Lewis(The Office) but I don't see any others right now. Should we just move Gabe Lewis (The Office) to Gabe Lewis? There's no other article using the name. Station1 (talk) 23:21, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I moved the original one (the one moved to Gabe Lewis (Facebook)) back to Gabe Lewis. This one I think can just be R3'd - Gabe Lewis (The Office) actually might not be too implausible, but I don't think it's plausible enough to keep - if it was somebody would have made it before without the disambiguation. ;) As for moving the article to that location - not sure. You'd think there'd be a notable RL Gabe Lewis somewhere out there, it's not exactly a pair of uncommon names? - The Bushranger One ping only 23:25, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * OK. Should be good now. It's on my watchlist. Thanks again. Station1 (talk) 23:34, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Jehovah's Witnesses
Thanks for all your work. You're doing a top job. BlackCab (talk) 02:50, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Glad to help out. Whack-a-sock, it's the new tetris! - The Bushranger One ping only 02:51, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Note about the blocks
Hey, you forgot to enable autoblock on your blocks. --Bsadowski1 03:40, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The JW ones, you mean? I thought the general rule-of-thumb for indefs was to disable it so that innocent users swapping to the IPs later wouldn't get caught by it? - The Bushranger One ping only 03:42, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Disruptive/deluded anon editor claiming to be god

 * Hi there, I've reported the IP editor to ANI, could you please take a look at his disruptive editing behaviour? Best. -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 11:07, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Ahem... please disregard the above message, another Admin nailed him. Best. -- <i style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:green;">Dave</i> ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 11:12, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for the rescue barnstar! There was me thinking I had to go out to sea and save a soul!♦ Dr. Blofeld  11:24, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

The Karminsky Experience, Inc.
Linked to by *6 other wikipedia articles and noted as more musically relevant by allmusic than other ESL record bands such as sofa surfer, desmond williams. So you really should really have clicked the allmusic link cause that pretty much says it all...

(source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESL_Music)

edit: *wait, now it's already gone and I can't revert. Dude, i'm gonna bug you on this one a lot... -Ferociouslettuce (talk) 18:47, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * But do they meet WP:MUSIC? I've resored the page to your userspace so the article can be expanded if they do. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 19:41, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey - I don't know what userifying is, but I edited the page where you placed it and I think I proved that because they 'released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (ESL RECORDS)' qualifies as notable. Can the page be restored now? -Ferociouslettuce (talk) 21:01, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Userfying is putting the page into your userspace for draftboard work. I'd say they're pretty borderline, but I suppose it can be restored - I can't guarantee somebody else won't dispute notability, though. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:34, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * fair enough. you've been quite helpful where normally deleters are harsher people Ferociouslettuce (talk) 06:48, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Gabe Lewis again
I'm back! Please see the first item on my talk page. As I suspected, this was a misguided but good faith effort by a new editor to move his new article Gabe Lewis (The Office) over an existing redirect at Gabe Lewis. I actually see no reason not to move it per WP:PRECISION, until some other notable Gabe Lewis comes along. Do you have any objection to a move? If so, I'll show him how to open a WP:RM. Otherwise, I'll just tell him to request an uncontested move in the future. Thanks. Station1 (talk) 03:24, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Aha. No objections here! :) - The Bushranger One ping only 03:25, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Improper Deletion of Sri Devananda Goudiya Math and/or Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math
It apperars that the Article Sri Devananda Goudiya Math since, nominated for speedy deletion, it was deleted because of the reason that the article was a repost of material of another article Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math that was previously deleted following a deletion debate.

Therefore, the questions arise that -

(1) What was the grounds, considered favourable, in said deletion debate, supporting deletion of the previous article Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math and correspondingly the instant article Sri Devananda Goudiya Math also?

(2) Whether, such grounds has been established as valid grounds to deleted such of an Article Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math as per Wikipedia's prevailing deletion policy?

To address these issues, let us look on the basis of which such deletion was taken effect. Accordingly, concerned deletion debate concluded the grounds as, (i) Non notable pilgrimage site (ii) have no independent reliable sources to comply with the policy on inclusion (iii) whether there was an independent article or a book written about the subject there could be a reason (iv) No third-party WP:RS to assert its notability (v) This particular Matha is not particularly notable (vi) whether readers can check that material in Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source (vii) verifiability. Also see reviewers quotes below.

In short those grounds were (a) verifiability, not truth (b) independent reliable sources(c) policy on inclusion.

However, if Wikipedia's prevailing deletion policy is considered and the validity of the concerned deletion grounds need to be established, then reasonably it will rather be found that the decision in deleting the Article Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math was improper and invalid. They have not considered the following:-

(1) Valid verifiability or policy on inclusion e.g.

(2) independent reliable sources e.g.


 * Navadvipa: Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math, Navadvipa Tourist Places to Visit for Religious
 * Sacred Sites of India - 47 Navadip; Dhameswara Shri Chaitanya temple, Devananda Gaudiya Math
 * Virtual Tours to Holy India - Sri Devananda Gaudiya Matha.
 * New Zealand Hare Krishna Spiritual Resource Network
 * Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math, Navadvipa tourist places to visit for Religious...
 * Broadcasting International Television - Isckon in Devananda Gaudiya Math with Srila Narayana...
 * Sri Devananda Gaudiya Matha Srila Gurudeva arrival


 * The mother of the Gaudiya Mathas - Sri Devananda Gaudiya Matha.
 * Navadvipa Parikrama 2010 - Sripad Madhava Maharaja translated into English Srila Gurudeva’s short Bengali discourse.
 * Sri Srimad Bhakti Prajnana Kesava Goswami - The founder of Sri Devananda Gaudiya Matha.
 * The Historical Background - Sri Devananda Gaudiya Matha and Sri Gaudiya Vedanta Samiti
 * VNN Editorial - Srila Sridhardev left his company by 1938-39 and started Devananda Gaudiya Math with Bhakti Prajnana Kesava Maharaja in 1940.
 * Parikrama to Devananda Gaudiya Matha
 * Navadvipa: Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math, Navadvipa Tourist Places to Visit for Religious
 * The Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya Disciplic Succession and Its Unique Characteristics of Which We are a Part

Administrators/Reviewers quotes:-

User:Wikidas said, "Non notable pilgrimage site, too small and have no independent reliable sources to comply with the policy on inclusion. Wikidas© 23:41, 7 January 2011 (UTC)".

He further said, "I guess if there was an independent article or a book written about the subject there could be a reason, or a possible reason to keep it."

User:Redtigerxyz said, "Searched the internet. Found no third-party WP:RS to assert its notability. The references in the article are not really RS. 1 mentions the temple in passing reference, the other calls it a "scared" place.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 15:11, 19 January 2011 (UTC)"

User:Wikidas further suggested me, "This particular Matha (out of hundreds) is not particularly notable. See: WP:V. "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth; that is, whether readers can check that material in Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source." I am sure you visited this building. But there are no sources for your claims. Can you please use google books or some other source and find more sources that are published by reliable publishers? . Wikidas© 10:33, 22 January 2011 (UTC)"

The deletion was prejudiced and biased as well. A bonafide article such as Sri Devananda Gaudiya Math has been deleted by the inefficient observation of some biased administration that ultimately injuring Wikipedia.

Snthakur ( সৌমেন্দ্র নাথ ঠাকুর ) (talk) 13:10, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Leaving aside the personal accusations of bias and prejudice, I have looked at the impressive list of sources, and found that some of them do not mention the subject, others barely mention it, others are not reliable or not independent or both. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:42, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, this is the same thing that was mentioned further up on the page, where I referred him to DRV...huh. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:54, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Tak Sun Secondary School
We are the Tak Sun Secondary School. We recently submitted an article titled "Tak Sun Secondary School", but was subsequently deleted. Would it be possible to un-delete it so that our school info can be shared with others via Wikipedia. Thanks a lot.Tssswebmaster (talk) 08:14, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * As noted on your talk page, the information was copyrighted. Even if you are the original writer, the copyright still prohibits its use on Wikipedia unless it is released through the OTRS system. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:28, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Merger Proposal WikiProject Intelligence with WikiProject Espionage
Dear The Bushranger,

I have been in discussion with the WikiProject Council over concerns of WikiProject Espionage, WikiProject Intelligence and WikiProject Military Intelligence. I have suggested that WikiProject Military Intelligence will stay with the WikiProject Military History since Military History as a WikiProject is well established by itself.

My proposal is WikiProject Espionage and WikiProject Intelligence to be merged as one WikiProject, keeping the WikiProject Espionage name and userbox. I've suggested that WikiProject Intelligence could possibly help fill holes with WikiProject Espionage. Unfortunately, the founder of WikiProject Espionage has not been actively contributing since May 5, 2010. Therefore I've suggested if this "merger" does go ahead that there should be some "structure" of members such as "Co-ordinators" then the more users who join can become normal users or anything else built from scratch. You can see my discussion with the WikiProject Council by going to the talkpage on their main page. Feedback would be appreciated there to keep all of the discussion at one place. Once again feedback would be appreciated. Adamdaley (talk) 18:30, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Michael_Voith
The Bushranger - I'm new to the WP:MILHIST and have been focusing on referencing the BLPs. I stumbled on this one and I am not sure if it should go to AfD. The only thing that I am not sure about is the award. I'm not sure what level the Meritorious Service Cross ranks in the Canadian military. The article was created in 2005 and the earliest version of the article, I feel, would have been CSDd. He had a previous VFD (?) that has been migrated to the AfD listed here. What do you think, nominate again?--v/r - TP 15:29, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The MSC is pretty far down the list as far as the Canadian awards go. He looks like a good guy but I'd think he probably fails WP:SOLDIER and is thus AfD bait... - The Bushranger One ping only 20:31, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I nominated it.--v/r - TP 21:58, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Makio
You PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has been requested at WP:REFUND, so per WP:DEL I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider taking it to AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:02, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

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Frank Buckles
The Frank Buckles article is currently at GAN. An issue has been raised over an image, a copy of which was deleted at Commons as not being in the Public Domain. A version of the image is hosted at en-Wiki under NFUR rules. Please see talk:Frank Buckles for a discussion on this issue, where you are welcome to give your opinion. Mjroots (talk) 10:30, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of The Anarchy and the Ecstasy
I would like to point out that WP:CRYSTAL is not a sufficient reason to delete an article on a future album. Crystal applies to speculation, not known future subjects. Please see.

It would be super helpful if you could restore the deleted content, as I am now starting to create a new article for it.

Cheers, MakeBelieveMonster (talk) 03:04, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I merely deleted it as the prod, with that reasoning, had expired without protest. I've userified it to your userspace here. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:02, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

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WP:NASCAR Newsletter (March 2011)
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Please help me to restore the page DaruDar
I wanted to make the translation from russian wiki article Дару~дар into English but the new page Darudar was deleted very quickly. And it was late to add the translate tag - karaboz
 * I've restored the page to your userspace here. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 23:50, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you The Bushranger! But what's the next? Is this article shown for people who can translate and who wants to do that? And what should be done to transfer the article in common space from my private zone? Who should I ask about this, when and how? - karaboz
 * No problem! Glad to help. If the translation tag is on the page it will be in the appropriate categories; however, being a userspace page, you might want to contact one of the editors here, who have expressed an ability to translate pages from Russian to English. Once the page is translated, you can simply use the 'Move' tool to move it back to the original name, or use requested moves to ask for help. Good luck! - The Bushranger One ping only 00:17, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Dear The Bushranger! Thank you a lot for you previous help. I translated the article about DaruDar and moved it from my user namespace into the global one. The article was here several days but then I found it deleted again: User_talk:Vianello. Could you please tell me what was wrong? Is it possible to undelete this article or maybe move it to my local namespace again? I spent a lot of time creating this article and it will be a pity if my work will be lost. Yours Karaboz (talk) 02:10, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The problem has been solved ((= Karaboz (talk) 17:12, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Denver Gem & Mineral Show
Hi, The Blade of the Northern Lights said you could give me a copy of the article on the Denver Gem and Mineral Show that you deleted earlier this month. That, some indication of what needs to be done to it to make it acceptable, and instructions on how to put something into the sandbox and find it again would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Eepstein (talk) 00:33, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I've sandboxed the page here for you. :) As for what's needed - well, I'd suggest taking the information there, and rewriting it completely; in addition, everything after 'external links' should be trimmed. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:10, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Rewrite completely? How? Some guidance on what you think is wrong with the way it's written now would be helpful. As for the external links, the show website and websites of the Council's member clubs would be essential. I added links to sites that have lists of rock clubs and/or shows worldwide--that information doesn't seem to be anywhere else in Wikipedia, and I couldn't find a suitable place to add it.

I still don't know how to put something in the sandbox myself and find it again. When I first started writing this, I used the "save in sandbox" option and it simply disappeared. I had to start again from scratch. I'm probably overlooking something obvious and simple, but I don't have a lot of time to spend messing with this. I tried using help and the FAQ, but found them even less useful than Microsoft's help screens. If you could provide me with a clue, I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance. Eepstein (talk) 16:43, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

WP:WikiProject Intelligence
Good afternoon Bushranger, A proposal of merger has been put through on the Disscussion page on the WikiProject Council. I would like to take this chance to urge you to inform us of your opinion on this merger. I will soon declare the disscussion over and determine whether the WikiProject should be merged or not. ALso you may want to address the matter f whether you will be staying or leaving the WikiProject Intelligence/Espionage (for now). Your opinion is very much valued. Thanks and Cheers. SunCountryGuy012(talk) 16:12, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Florida State League (Baseball)
I don't know if you are a fan of minor league baseball - but the Florida State League is about to start its season next month. Many of the team pages need work (I'm working on the Daytona Cubs) Gamweb (talk) 22:11, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * List of FSL teams
 * Bradenton Marauders
 * Brevard County Manatees
 * Charlotte Stone Crabs
 * Clearwater Threshers
 * Daytona Cubs
 * Dunedin Blue Jays
 * Fort Myers Miracle
 * Jupiter Hammerheads
 * Lakeland Flying Tigers
 * Palm Beach Cardinals
 * St. Lucie Mets
 * Tampa Yankees