User talk:The Currency Exchange Fund NV

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, The Currency Exchange Fund NV, may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because it explicit use of a name or url of a company, group or product as a username is not permitted. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may file for a change of username, or you may simply create a new account and use that for editing. Thank you. GorillaWarfare talk 13:51, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Reason for choice of name
Dear Gorilla Warfare, the rational and reasoning behind our name choice is the same as for 'Netherlands Development Finance Company NV' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financieringsmaatschappij_voor_Ontwikkelingslanden_N.V.. We are called a company and must register as a company but we are completely unique and the only organization of this type in the world. If the above organization is allowed unhindered to have a WIKI page, could you please explain why our organization should not be allowed to have one? thanks, The Currency Exchange Fund NV The Currency Exchange Fund NV (talk) 14:11, 20 July 2010 (UTC) Additionally, most of our investors also have WIKI pages. These are all organizations very similar to us of course. Here are some examples: KfW, AFDB, JBIC, and many many others. The Currency Exchange Fund NV (talk) 14:30, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

User:The Currency Exchange Fund NV


A tag has been placed on User:The Currency Exchange Fund NV, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add  on the top of User:The Currency Exchange Fund NV and leave a note on |the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from independent reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Mean as custard (talk) 17:29, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

July 2010
Welcome to Wikipedia. Because we have a policy against usernames that give the impression that the account represents a group, organization or website, I have blocked this account; please take a few moments to create a new account with a username that represents only you. If your username doesn't represent a group, organization or website, you may ask for a review of this username block by adding below this notice the text. Thank you. HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   19:52, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * JP gordon, thank you. So if I understand it correctly after reading the guidelines and conflict of interest guidelines, if a WIKI page is set up by a student or an ordinary individual then there is no longer a conflict of interest and the name may be used? Please, I am not trying to irritate you, and certainly have no intention of making a legal threat. My goal is to have a WIKI page, very much like all of our sister organizations do, without conflict or problems. Could you please inform of my options as far as possibly escalating the question to another level? My idea of escaclation was to have our sister orgainzations write the editors and put pressure on WIKI, since they are all already established on your site - pressure from within the already existing WIKI community. Is this the correct way to do it? Please inform me. thank you.
 * There are no "other levels". Wikipedia is a community- and consensus-driven enterprise. If an uninvolved editors (we're all editors here; there's no hierarchy of privilege differentiating "writers" from "editors") feel your organization is worthy of an article, and creates one with adequate verifiability, reliable sourcing, and neutrality, then that article will be created. Organizations and their representatives are pretty much forbidden from writing articles about themselves and are very strongly discouraged from editing articles about themselves; we consider it pretty much impossible for such people to have the necessary neutral point of view about their own organizations. You will not be able to edit with this user name, period; Wikipedia editors are expected to be individuals writing on their own behalf, not on the behalf of organizations. What you can do is start a completely new account, and go through the process of requesting a new article at Requested articles. It would take the form of "Hi, I'm so-and-so from The Currency Exchange Fund; I think Wikipedia needs an article on this organization, and here are the verifiable reliable sources establishing the basis for such an article." --jpgordon:==( o ) 15:30, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

However, if you create a new account as an individual, there is still a problem if you wish to write about your organization. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a business listing directory, still less a vehicle for organizations to promote themselves, and because of the need for a neutral point of view users are strongly discouraged from writing about themselves or their organizations. You should read these guidelines: JohnCD (talk) 13:19, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Conflict of interest
 * Best practices for editors with conflicts of interest
 * The FAQ/Organizations, in particular the sections headed:
 * Why doesn't Wikipedia have an article on my organization?
 * I think my organization deserves an article on Wikipedia but none exists. What can I do?


 * Supplement - I was preparing a reply, but Jpgordon replied first. Some extra points that might be helpful: it occurs to me that you may be under the impression that International Monetary Fund, for instance, is the user page of a user called "International Monetary Fund". That might explain why we seem to be at cross purposes. International Monetary Fund is not a user page: it is an encyclopedia article. It was not written by, and is not controlled by, a user called "International Monetary Fund" - there is no such user and any account set up with that name would be blocked as yours has been. The revision history of the page shows all the editors who have contributed to it. A user page has a name like User:JohnCD and is for showing as much, or as little, information about the individual user as he chooses. In no sense does an article "belong" to its subject: others can and will edit it and the subject cannot insist on a preferred version. See Ownership of articles. This is an important difference between Wikipedia and the sort of company-listing site I think you have in mind. The fact that the companies you mention have Wikipedia articles does not in any sense make them "members" and certainly does not put them in a position to bring "pressure" on Wikipedia - which would in any case be likely to be counter-productive. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 16:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

John and Jp, this is useful constructive information, the other responses were not. thanks