User talk:The Editor of All Things Wikipedia/Newbie Archive

Confirmation
"Patrolling" a page simply means acknowledging that it has been correctly created. It means I've looked at the page and seen it to be all right and proper, nothing more. Just about any editor can do it - once you're autoconfirmed you can do it, also.

That said, I've looked at your request, and I'm still chewing it over some. I think you do have basic understanding of procedure, but I would prefer to see a few more edits to article-space, personally, before considering it further. Regardless, welcome aboard! :-) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 23:41, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank YouTheEditorOfAllThingsWikipedia (talk) 23:43, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I've almost doubled my edits from since I contacted you in the Article-Space. And I also have a question. If i was to just post this response right here with only my signature, would you get an alert since it is in the same string as your message? Or do I have to put your username in this new message to make sure that you get alerted that I responded to you? I will put your username in here just in case you wouldnt get it otherwise. Thanks, TheEditorOfAllThingsWikipedia (talk) 01:53, 5 August 2015 (UTC). TO:Ser Amantio di Nicolao
 * You have to put my name in the message for me to be alerted. Some people keep talkpages on their watchlists, so they can see if anything they've written has received a response, but I don't tend to do that. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 01:54, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, Thank You Ser Amantio di NicolaoFrom:TheEditorOfAllThingsWikipedia (talk) 01:56, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. I'm going to go ahead and give you the confirmation, I think; I think you have enough grasp of the basics of Wikipedia that it won't hurt. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 01:59, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank You, I'll make sure not to dissapoint.TO Ser Amantio di Nicolao TheEditorOfAllThingsWikipedia (talk) 02:04, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * An administrator just took away my confirmed status because I tried to apply for rollback rights and to be a pending changes reviewier. If you could re confirm me I would appreciate it. I just feel wronged and its unfair. He just felt that I overstepped my bounds by asking for more privledges but I dont feel that I did, I am just looking to make a difference faster and want these priveledges to make edits faster and be able to stop vandalism in another way. Its upsettig for me so please consider it again and put faith in me again. I am a teenager too so I get a little carried away sometimes but Im not trying to do harm and I think its great that someone my age is interested in this. Please help me out. Thank You, TheEditorOfAllThingsWikipedia (talk) 04:38, 5 August 2015 (UTC) TO:Ser Amantio di Nicolao
 * I'm sorry, but I have to agree - you're asking for too much, too fast. You want to help out, and that's commendable; but you're asking to override too many waiting periods without a sufficient number of edits to prove yourself.  At this point I think it's best if you wait out the waiting period for confirmation - it's only three more days.  Meantime, keep plugging away in article space; you'll have a sufficient body of edits to judge before you know it. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 08:50, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Ser Amantio di Nicolao Could you at least reconsider giving it back to me at the end of the day if I make enough productive edits in the main-space? Im mot trying to be pushy but I didnt know that it was a problem to ask for more privledges so I dont feel that just asking should warrant a removal of privledge without a warning. I didnt know when I asked that it would become an issue. Thanks please at least reconsider if i prove myself some more. TheEditorOfAllThingsWikipedia (talk) 19:57, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I made almost 100 edits against vandalism today by hand. Please consider what I wrote above. Thanks TheEditorOfAllThingsWikipedia (talk) 01:37, 6 August 2015 (UTC) To Ser Amantio di Nicolao
 * I'll give it some thought, but at this point I'm still inclined to suggest waiting out the waiting period. But I'll think on it for a bit. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 01:51, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for being open-minded, its a good trait on here. TheEditorOfAllThingsWikipedia (talk) 01:54, 6 August 2015 (UTC) to:Ser Amantio di Nicolao
 * Well, I try, but I think I'm no better than many of my fellow administrators in that regard. Nor am I worse.  I think we're a pretty fair bunch, by and large.


 * I've given it some consideration, and I'm afraid I'm still inclined against reconfirming your rights. You're doing great - better than a lot of newbies, in my experience.  You've already got a handle on a lot of aspects of editing.  And you're getting a lot of good advice, which you're taking into account, I can see. But you're going a bit fast, and you've still got a lot to learn.  I might think differently were it not for the fact that the action you're requesting me to override will most likely take place, in an automated fashion, in two more days.  It's not really that much longer to wait, and patience is a great virtue to have when editing.  (Trust me: I've been here nearly a decade and I still have to remind myself of that from time to time.)


 * (Incidentally: I will say that rollback rights are a bit overrated, in my opinion; I have 'em, but don't use 'em that often. There are other ways of achieving the same ends that I prefer, honestly.)-- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:32, 6 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank You Ser Amantio di Nicolao. If you do reconsider at all in the next couple days, please let me know because I also dont want to wait because it would be an honor for me if you were the one to do it due to how much you have accomplished on wikipedia. But thank you again for giving me your input. And I do personally think that some admins are not nearly as openminded as you so please know that and dont be humble about it. BTW heres a cookie :)


 * I'm not being humble in the least; I think most admins are quite openminded; it's not fair to them to say otherwise. You have to be, to discharge the role properly.


 * I also think you're making a bit much of my contributions to Wikipedia. For one thing, I've been here nearly a decade - I've had the time to rack up a good number of edits.  This is also where I spend the bulk of my time online, so I have plenty of time to get things done.  For another, just because I have a long edit history doesn't mean I'm any more or less fallible than any other editor - far from it, in fact.  More edits means more room to make mistakes.


 * Thanks for the cookies, by the by, though I don't need any more - I'm fat enough as it is. :-) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:14, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Ledi-Geraru
Good work on that! That's a very good stub for somebody just getting started; a lot of newbies don't understand the principle of WP:Citation, let alone use the templates correctly.

I hope you continue to keep my advice in mind: counter-vandalism is exciting and can feel easy, but can also be risky. I was given WP:Rollback tools a few months after I started, having spent plenty of time undoing vandalism as well as creating and improving content. When I got that tool, I promptly started making mistakes with it, reverting the wrong edit or for the wrong reasons. If I hadn't known how to handle those situations using the WP community's standards for polite user interaction, I could have caused significant trouble. So take your time, keep finding cool little things like Ledi-Geraru to add information on, and you'll have a great time here. FourViolas (talk) 14:37, 5 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks TheEditorOfAllThingsWikipedia (talk) 17:45, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

August 2015
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at User talk:Mohamed Ali Nour Khan, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. &#9790;Loriendrew&#9789;  &#9743;(ring-ring)  02:20, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh im sorry. There was an exit conflict when i posted my notice for deletion and it overwrote yours on the article so when i gave the user the notice of the notice of deletion, i overwrote yours since mine was the current one on the article and yours was deleted on the article, I did the same on the users page so that the notice on the article and the notice of the notice on the users page would match and be current. Sorry i didnt mean for it to be negative. Heres a cookie to apologise.

Your user page
It seems you have copied portions of content from others. By far you are not the second most active wikipedian of all time, nor are you a Recent Changes Officer. I basically stopped looking at that point. Wiki is not a social media outlet, so exaggerating, boasting, or lying about your accomplishments here are unwelcome. Please take a moment to edit your userpage before someone does it for you. Please read and familiarize yourself with WP:USERPAGE and edit accordingly.-- &#9790;Loriendrew&#9789;  &#9743;(ring-ring)  20:10, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * If you read it carefully, it says that they were confirmed (i.e. given autoconfirmed status) by the 2nd most active Wikipedian of all time, they don't claim to be them. Same for unconfirmed by 762nd most active Wikipedian. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:13, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks Joseph2302 I was just going to say that. And also I do patrol the recent changes. Loriendrew Thanks for looking at my user page though and its good that you are looking out for the liars out there. Thanks The Editor of All Things Wikipedia (talk) 20:17, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, my bad. Shoulda waited until I got home for a full sized screen.-- &#9790;Loriendrew&#9789;  &#9743;(ring-ring)  20:24, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Haha its ok, even on my tablet I cant read the small print sometimes. But its good that youre looking out for that stuff. Thanks  The Editor of All Things Wikipedia  《Talk》

WP:RPP
If you'd like a page protected, the best thing to do is to go to Requests for page protection. Once you're there, add a message at the bottom like this: === Zionist political violence === * Semi-protection: Five IP vandalism incidents in the past three days. ~

We usually keep pages open for anyone to edit, because the vast majority of all edits, from IPs and registered users, are positive. However, protection is a useful tool when it's needed, for example on sensitive, disputed topics, or after a burst of controversial media attention.

Again, great job teaching yourself the ropes! I'm impressed; you seem to be doing everything right. If you're interested in continuing counter-vandalism patrol, make sure you're very familiar with the essay WP:Don't bite the newbies. Almost all editors, when they first show up, look unconstructive; it's always best to give people the benefit of the doubt as long as possible, to avoid scaring off potentially valuable contributors. But again, you seem to be reverting, templating, and reporting exactly right, so just keep it up. If you ever have questions about WP in general or counter-vandalism in particular, just ask me on my talk page. FourViolas (talk) 02:54, 7 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks! User:FourViolas  The Editor of All Things Wikipedia  《Talk》 03:24, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

DRN
Hello, and welcome to DRN! Thanks for your willingness to volunteer; we need volunteers, and your eagerness to help is greatly appreciated. I'm not very experienced at DRN, but I've been active there lately and have a couple suggestions. First, I'd encourage you to read through WP:DRN/V. This page is a helpful guide for volunteers and explains how you should go about mediating a discussion. One major thing is that the discussion should take place at the DRN page. I noticed you had opened a discusion at Talk:Miss Cleo, which I would advise moving to the DRN page. Additionally, I would suggest granting the parties a little more time than 24 hours to make statements; sometimes, allowing a discussion to stay open a bit helps alleviate frustration and encourages parties to think outside the box. Thanks, North of Eden (talk) 01:25, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, I saw a message that said this under the discussion heading under the case on the DRN page that said this, "Please keep discussion to a minimum before being opened by a volunteer. Continue on article talk page if necessary." I assumed that to mean that I could continue the discussion on the talk page to avoid a possibly tough transition over. I wasnt sure and looked back at the WP:DRN/V. I did read it too. Ill get everyone over back onto the DRN page and give 72 hrs. Thanks  The Editor of All Things Wikipedia  《Talk》 01:31, 8 August 2015 (UTC) to User:North of Eden
 * Sounds great. That message is intended for the parties.  For example, if they come over to the DRN page ready to argue, but a volunteer hasn't opened the thread, they are supposed to continue on the talk page as necessary, until the DRN thread is opened.  Thanks!  North of Eden (talk) 01:39, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Cool, TEOATW, I think it's great you're taking on this role so soon! It's a tough job; it's always easier to start arguments on the Internet than resolve them. Make sure you know the guidelines in WP:Consensus and WP:DRN/V very well, and you'll have better chances. Good luck! FourViolas (talk) 02:45, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! FourViolas & North of Eden  The Editor of All Things Wikipedia  《Talk》 02:50, 8 August 2015 (UTC)