User talk:The Eloquent Peasant/Archive 2

Wikidata weekly summary #246
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. 
 * Discussions
 * We need your input about quality criteria for building a tool to evaluate item quality


 * Events/Press/Blogs
 * Past: FOSDEM
 * Upcoming: WSDM Cup 2017
 * Upcoming: WikiCite 2017, Vienna, May 23-25, 2017
 * Upcoming: A Gentle Introduction to Wikidata for Absolute Beginners, by Asaf Bartov, February 9th, 19:00 UTC (livestream on Youtube)
 * Scaling the matching of Wikidata to OpenStreetMap with wikimama
 * Software product management as an internship in the Wikidata development team
 * Being a Volunteer Developer for Wikimedia projects: An Interview with Greta Doçi


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Inspire Campaign on outside knowledge networks launched
 * What would you like to talk about during Wikimania Montreal?
 * Join the Wikimania program committee!
 * OpenStreetMap uses several -related tags in its database. See also the related documentation
 * Dutch is now the most used language for descriptions on Wikidata (56,7%), leaving English (55,8%) and German (34,7%) behind.
 * An OpenRefine service for Wikidata is waiting for testing: https://tools.wmflabs.org/openrefine-wikidata/
 * WMDE looking for a data analyst to work mostly on Wikidata
 * WMF looking for a project manager to work on structured data for Commons


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties: Saros cycle of eclipse, World Checklist of Selected Plant Families ID, Relations Ontology ID, GCD series ID, WNBA player ID, Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures ID, CricketArchive playing ground ID, UltraSignup runner ID, ITRA runner ID, Surfline ID, SunshineTour ID, Pro Football Hall of Fame ID, SIPCA code, Sina Weibo id, autologous cell line, Croatian Football Federation player ID, TLG author ID, data size, Fangraphs ID, European Handball Federation ID, ESPNcricinfo playing ground ID, ESPN MLB player ID, European Case Law Identifier, Cultureel Woordenboek identifier, OWGR ID, Legends of Hockey ID, Just Sports Stats ID, J.League Data Site ID, Global Poker Index ID, NGA Lighthouse ID, Admiralty number, pro-football-reference ID, College Football Data Warehouse ID, maximum size or capacity, USCF ID, World Curling Federation ID, World Curling Tour ID, World Guide to Covered Bridges ID, World Series of Poker ID, Zhihu topic ID


 * Query examples:
 * Places of worship south of 48°S(source)
 * Fictional items named after real items(source)


 * Development
 * You can now download query results as SVG images
 * When posting a link to an item to social networks and on messenger apps that show previews the previews will now be nicer and show an image. (T51859)
 * We published the results of our research around Commons usage: How do heavy Commons users work? ...and what does that mean for structured data on Commons?
 * Setting up test system for federation (being able to use Wikidata's items and properties on Commons)
 * Setting up test system for lexemes
 * Setting up test system for improved change dispatching (sending notifications about edits on Wikidata to Wikipedia and co)
 * Doing more groundwork for lexemes
 * Working on better integration with Elastic
 * More work on Federation
 * Getting ready to deploy automated sitelinks for Wiktionary
 * Fixing a number of keyboard navigation issues based on your feedback
 * Working on the new datatype for geoshapes (T57549)
 * Looking into linking more complicated external identifiers properly (T151329)
 * Improved the link to the help portal on the query service (T154993)

See all open tickets related to Wikidata.


 * Monthly Tasks
 * Hack on one of these.
 * Help develop the next summary here!
 * Contribute to a Showcase item
 * Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals - proposals needing attention
 * The Cebuano and Swedish wikis have a lot of bot-created content which is unconnected to other wiki articles. A good way to tackle that problem is by checking constraint violations for property GeoNames ID.

Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 13:26, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #247
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. 


 * Discussions
 * New request for comments: P171 (property "parent taxon"), changing the label of property "has role"


 * Events/Press/Blogs
 * Probing Parliament(s) with Wikidata, by Martin Poulter
 * Jan Dittrich and Charlie Kritschmar gave a talk at FOSDEM on finding user needs and gave some examples from their work.
 * A Gentle Introduction to Wikidata for Absolute Beginners by Asaf Bartov: video and slides
 * Validating Wikidata tags on OpenStreetMap
 * Reminder: the deadline for Wikimania's scholarship is February 20 (and you can discuss about your ideas for Wikidata here)


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * The satisfaction survey concerning Flow has been published (and Wikidata is the community which prefers Flow the most)
 * Module Wikidata on Wikidata received an update to improve its performance. If your wiki has forked this one, consider updating it and report any problems (already reported one).
 * Experimental c:Template:Category contains for categories on Commons, including a per-category Wikidata query. See introductory discussion on Commons Village Pump. Presented together with current statistics on Commons category <-> Wikidata links
 * ContentMine looking for a Wikimedian in Residence to work on Wikidata and WikiFactMine in Cambridge
 * It is now possible to edit the Wikidata description from the Wikipedia app in some languages in beta


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties: base salary, Visions of Britain place ID, Visions of Britain unit ID, DigDag ID, Sweden Nature Reserve ID, Le Monde diplomatique subject ID, Borden Code, fare zone, Recreation.gov area ID, EU VAT number, Booking.com hotel ID, BOLD Systems taxon ID, 90minut player ID, ITU triathlete ID, Minneapolis Institute of Art Constituent ID, candidacy in election, MarineTraffic Lighthouse ID, protected heritage site in Brussels ID, Archives nationales producer record, Hockey-reference player ID, F-Droid package, Danish ancient monument ID, BLF article ID, Araneae Spider ID, AFI Catalog of Feature Films ID


 * Query examples:
 * Collection of the Ashmolean Museum, Oxford, UK
 * Office-holders convicted of crimes (source)
 * |wdt%3AP39%29%2F%28wdt%3AP31|wdt%3AP279%29*%20wd%3AQ116%3B%20%23%20occupation%20or%20position%20held%3A%20some%20kind%20of%20monarch%0A%20wdt%3AP1399%20wd%3AQ1475448.%20%23%20convicted%20of%3A%20regicide%0A%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22en%22.%20%7D%0A%7D Monarchs convicted of regicide (source)
 * Timeline of antipopes (source)
 * Battles etc of the U.S. Civil War, that have maps (source) -- but the results are a bit patchy.
 * Grade I listed buildings in Bedfordshire (source: Commons "category contains" template)
 * Newest external tools: new reconciliation for OpenRefine


 * Development
 * Doing a trial run of allowing search engines to index a number of ArticlePlaceholder pages on Welsh Wikipedia. If there are no major issues we will enable this for all placeholders.
 * Improving Federation-related after initial tests,
 * Getting ready to deploy automated sitelinks for Wiktionary
 * Further work on the new datatype for geoshapes (T57549)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here.


 * Monthly Tasks
 * Hack on one of these.
 * Help develop the next summary here!
 * Contribute to a Showcase item
 * Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals - proposals needing attention

Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 08:41, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #248
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. 
 * Events/Press/Blogs
 * Past: GLAMwiki meeting in Paris, February 16-17th
 * Incoming: Wikidata workshop in Grenoble (France), March 7th
 * If Voltaire had used Wikipedia… using Wikidata to share knowledge about an author


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * WMF open call for Project Grant proposals (Feb 13-Mar 14)
 * Wikimania: the deadline for applying for scholarships is 20 February 2017 23:59 UTC. Submissions are running until end of March (see our discussions about Wikidata-related topics)
 * Wikimedia Deutschland is hiring a fullstack developer and an engineering manager to work on Wikidata
 * Editing Wikidata descriptions from Wikipedia app (beta)


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties: USA Gymnastics athlete ID, Tennis Archives player ID, Swimming Australia swimmer ID, Sambafoot player ID, International Weightlifting Federation ID, EPCR player ID, L'Équipe football player ID, Futsal Planet player ID, Fotbal DNES player ID, Football Federation of Ukraine player ID, Fora De Jogo manager ID, FootballFacts.ru player ID, Estonian Football Association player ID, DZFoot.com player ID, Croatian Football Statistics ID, Cross-tables.com Scrabble player ID, BDFutbol player ID, Chess.com player ID, ARRS runner ID, Kontinental Hockey League player ID, American Hockey League player ID, JMK film rating, IDEAS person ID, NatureServe conservation status, NBA player ID, Basketball Hall of Fame ID, All Blacks player ID, FFR player ID, significant environmental impact, ARCHON code, Uniform Type Identifier, National Drug Code, Key to English Place-Names (KEPN) ID, Oorlogsmonument ID, European Medicines Agency product number, PDB ligand ID, Peakbagger area ID, The Met object ID, British Museum place ID, British Museum thesaurus ID, Babelio work ID, Babelio author ID, stated age at event, British History Online VCH ID, Historical Gazetteer of England's Place Names ID, Australian Antarctic Gazetteer ID, Kirshenbaum, Common Weakness Enumeration ID, BadmintonLink player ID, rusbandy player ID, Darts Database player ID, Bwfbadminton.com player ID, ski-db.com skier ID


 * Query examples:
 * People born at the sea (source)
 * Persons buried in Père-Lachaise cemetery, Paris (source)
 * Paintings by women painters in the Louvre (source)
 * [http://histropedia.com/showcase/wikidata-viewer.html?query=%23People%20born%20on%20valentine%27s%20day%0ASELECT%20?personItem%20?person%20?personDescription%20?date%20?Country_of_citizenship%20?Occupation%20?Gender%20?image%20?rank%20(if(BOUND(?personDescription),%20CONCAT(?person,%27%20(%27,?personDescription,%27)%27),%20?person)%20as%20?title)%0AWHERE%20%7B%0A%7B%0ASELECT%20?personItem%20?date%20?countryItem%20?occupationItem%20?genderItem%0A(SAMPLE(?image)%20as%20?image)%0A(COUNT(DISTINCT%20?article)%20as%20?rank)%20%0AWHERE%20%7B%09%0A?personItem%20wdt:P569%20?date%20.%0A?personItem%20wdt:P18%20?image%20.%0A?personItem%20wdt:P21%20?genderItem%20.%0A?personItem%20wdt:P106%20?occupationItem%20.%0A?personItem%20wdt:P27%20?countryItem%20.%0AOPTIONAL%20%7B%20?article%20schema:about%20?personItem%20.%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20FILTER%20(SUBSTR(STR(?article),12,19)%20%3D%20%22wikipedia.org/wiki/%22)%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%20%20%0A%20%20%0AFILTER%20(datatype(?date)%20%3D%20xsd:dateTime%20&&%20month(?date)%20%3D%202%20&&%20day(?date)%20%3D%2014)%09%0A%7D%20GROUP%20BY%20?personItem%20?date%20?countryItem%20?occupationItem%20?genderItem%0A%7D%0ASERVICE%20wikibase:label%20%7B%0Abd:serviceParam%20wikibase:language%20%27en%27%20.%0A?personItem%20schema:description%20?personDescription%20.%0A?personItem%20rdfs:label%20?person%20.%0A?countryItem%20rdfs:label%20?Country_of_citizenship%20.%0A?occupationItem%20rdfs:label%20?Occupation%20.%0A?genderItem%20rdfs:label%20?Gender%20.%0A%7D%0A%7D%20%20ORDER%20BY%20DESC(?rank)&url=personItem&title=title&from=date&imageUrl=image&colourCodeBy=Country_of_citizenship&threshold=1&filterBy=Gender,Occupation&view=timeline People born on Valentine's day, colour coded by country of citizenship] (source)
 * Newest external tools: wikidata-cli can now edit Wikidata, edit Wikidata from NodeJS


 * Development
 * Making final fixes to initial version of Federation (needed to be able to use Wikidata items and properties to describe media on Commons in the future)
 * More work on baseline for Lexeme entity type for Wiktionary support
 * Fixed an error on d:Special:ConstraintReport (T158183)
 * Wikidata Query Service got additional servers, the data has been reloaded to fix a number of issues caused by missed updates and an increase of the time-out of 30s is being looked into.

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here.


 * Monthly Tasks
 * Hack on one of these.
 * Help develop the next summary here!
 * Contribute to a Showcase item
 * Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals - proposals needing attention

Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 15:56, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #249
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. 
 * Discussions
 * New request for comments: Proposal to include command line arguments to Command line tool
 * We need your input on SPARQL federation


 * Events/Press/Blogs
 * Describing Wikidata items with OpenStreetMap tags
 * Deadline for applying to Wikicite 2017 is February 27th
 * Quora blog post about their collaboration with Wikidata. They are now displaying links to Wikidata items in their topic management pages - about 88K of them, so far.
 * Community Digest: Using data to visualize Wikipedia knowledge gaps; news in brief


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * There is now a Community for Wikidata editors on Facebook
 * You can now make your Harvest Templates tasks run automatically. After you have generated a permalink to your task, add  to the url. When you open it next time, it will load and then run automatically. Alternatively, you can use   which will only prepare the task for running.
 * Wikidata description editing in the Wikipedia Android app for Hebrew, Russian and Catalan


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties: GPnotebook ID, regulated by, NCMEC person ID, MEROPS enzyme ID, social classification, NISH Hall of Fame ID, Recreation.gov facility ID, category for value not in Wikidata, objective of a project or mission, Vanderkrogt.net Statues ID, Jewish Encyclopedia Daat ID, category for value different from Wikidata, PhDTree person ID, Gridabase glacier ID, RITVA Person ID, RITVA Program ID, KMDb film ID, JMDb person ID, Catalogue of Illuminated Manuscripts ID, incarnation of, NHF player ID, Transfermarkt referee ID, Tennis Australia player ID, SRCFB player ID, SRCBB player ID, SpeedSkatingStats speed skater ID, SpeedSkatingNews speed skater ID, ShorttrackOnLine speed skater ID, NCAA sports team ID, ISHOF swimmer ID, IFSC climber ID, ICF slalom canoer ID, ICF sprint canoer ID, ESPN NHL player ID, ESPN NFL player ID, ESPN NBA player ID, DriverDB driver ID, LFP.fr player ID, AOC athlete ID, ESPN FC player ID, statement supported by, stock market index, SA Rugby player ID, Wereld van Oranje player ID, National Bridge Inventory Number, Hans Christian Andersen Centre's work ID, Mutopia composer ID, film-documentaire.fr film ID, International Orienteering Federation athlete ID


 * Query examples:
 * Map of cheese by milk used (source)
 * The many flags of Afghanistan (source)
 * Real works written by fictional authors (source)
 * Maps of churches in Pyrénées-Orientales (France) (source)
 * Cities with millions of inhabitants that not a single person in Wikidata was born, has lived, or died in (source)


 * Development
 * Continued to finalize the initial version of Federation (needed to be able to use Wikidata items and properties to describe media on Commons in the future)
 * More work on baseline for Lexeme entity type for Wiktionary support

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. These other tasks need a volunteer.


 * Monthly Tasks
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals - proposals needing attention
 * Suggested and open tasks!
 * Contribute to a Showcase item.
 * Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Help write the next summary!

Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 14:54, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #250
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. 


 * Events/Press/Blogs
 * International Open Data Day was on Saturday, 4 March (tweets about Wikidata)
 * Wikidata documentation sprint during the Wikimedia hackathon (May 19-21): We need your help to improve Wikidata help pages!
 * Getting to know Wikidata (from Bob DuCharme, author of the book "learning SPARQL")
 * Tutorial to mashup Wikidata and government data with Dataiku DSS and Palladio (fr)


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Library of Congress updated their inventory of Format Description Documents to include Wikidata URIs
 * Surfacing Wikidata objects with coordinates to match them with OSM
 * The Wikiproject Welcome has been created to work on welcoming the new editors, feel free to participate


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties: FIH player ID, seed dispersal, number of works, inflorescence, minimum wavelength of electromagnetic sensitivity, maximum wavelength of electromagnetic sensitivity, Eurovision Song Contest song ID, Ghetto Encyclopedia ID, category for value same as Wikidata, MOOMA artist ID, PhilPapers record, Serbia cadastral municipality ID, next higher rank, next lower rank, New Zealand Heritage List number, Serbia municipality ID, Eu-football.info player ID, CEV player ID, USHMM Holocaust Encyclopedia ID, USCG Lighthouse ID, Commons maps category, public key fingerprint


 * Query examples:
 * Countries with similar populations (source)
 * Items that have "feminist art" as a value (source)
 * Books, incipits, concatenating a sentence to the incipit (source and inspiration)
 * Paintings by Vermeer depicting maps (source)
 * Painters sorted by the number of Wikipedia articles about their works (source)
 * Newest WikiProjects: WikiProject Fashion


 * Development
 * Finishing touches on the new geo shape data type. It is available on the first test wiki now (T57549).
 * SetLabel, SetDescription, SetAliases, SetLabelDescriptionAliases, SetSiteLink have been migrated to ooUI. Thanks, Ricordisamoa! (T48248)
 * Making progress on integrating the new Lexeme entity type with the wbeditentity API (T155699).

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here.


 * Monthly Tasks
 * Hack on one of these.
 * Help develop the next summary here!
 * Contribute to a Showcase item
 * Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals - proposals needing attention

Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 14:34, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Cachi Cachi music
Very, very interesting! I think that as a music genre it merits an article. Write it. Look write about it in your "sandbox". First, make a brief "introduction". Second, write the "history" of how it began. Third, write about how the people have reacted to it and finally Four, as a conclusion write it's current status. Add all the references, including books.

Here is an example of an inline reference of a book or newspaper:

Here is an example of an inline website reference:.

After you write it, I'll look it over before you post it the mainspace. This is really a great thing that you have come up with. Tony the Marine (talk) 04:59, 15 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks much for your enthusiasm. I think it's pretty cool! I'll let you know when I have a good "draft" for you to review. Thanks much! the eloquent peasant (talk) 13:24, 15 June 2017 (UTC)


 * O.K., I am here to encourage you, not to discharge you. As a person who has written over 700 articles I can truly tell you that I like what you wrote, never mind the AFC comment. I recommend that you do the following:


 * In the introduction convert the title in bold: Cachi Cachi.
 * Add the following section "See also" before the "reference" section, example:


 * Copy the whole article (minus the AFC Template) and post on the main space.
 * Once the article is up, go the "talk" page of the article and post the following:

As they used to say in the 60's Keep the faith baby. Tony the Marine (talk) 03:21, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Wow! You've written a lot of articles! Thanks. I'll do what you recommended. Keeping the faith. (La jibara elocuente) the eloquent peasant (talk) 03:33, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Saw it
I saw it and I love what you did. Keep up the good work. Remember, I am always here for you if and whenever you need some advice. Tony the Marine (talk) 16:47, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Now I just have to make 699 more articles.
 * It's my first article because my other first article got deleted. Why? Because I couldn't think of something positive to say about Felix Vail, a SERIAL KILLER! LOL. Sometimes Wikipedians are funny! This is a better first article anyway. Have a good one Tony The Marine! It was super fun writing this one. I learned a lot. the eloquent peasant (talk) 18:56, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Suggestion
Go to Music of Hawaii and add short mention of the Cachi Cachi music there then Wikilink it " " to your article. Tony the Marine (talk) 19:17, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * OK. I did it! the eloquent peasant (talk) 21:45, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Good! I made a minor addition myself: . Once again Felicidades on your first article. Tony the Marine (talk) 03:31, 20 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I think it came out good. Yesterday I found some things in a 1903 newspaper. I'll try to find more in the newspaper. I will try to tighten the article a little and YOU are welcome to make any changes you deem necessary. I'm slow to find a topic for my second article. Plus it takes a lot of time!!! I work full-time. :)  the eloquent peasant (talk) 12:18, 20 June 2017 (UTC)


 * When I began writing, I wrote about subjects that were unknown and that were omitted from our history books only to be forgotten. I didn't want to write about what everybody already knew. I wanted the world to know that all Puerto Ricans were not drug dealers who lived on welfare as they have often been portrayed. I wanted the world to know about the positive contributions that they have made to the world in general. That is what made writing in Wikipedia fun for me and why I have received recognition's for my work here. I started by writing about our military heroes and then combined all of my bios and ended up with this: Military history of Puerto Rico. From then on the rest is as they say "history". Remember, just have fun and write what about what you really love writing about. Does that make sense? Tony the Marine (talk) 16:35, 20 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Wow! What an article. My grandmother was just talking to me about El Grito de Lares the other day. Her family is from Lares. the eloquent peasant (talk) 23:13, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

List
Thank you! My List of Puerto Ricans missing in action in the Korean War was one of the first list's in Wikipedia to become a featured list. One of my favorite articles, which I authored is the Puerto Rico Campaign. When Ken Burns made the PBS documentary about World War II, he did not mention the Hispanic contributions. I therefore wrote Hispanic Americans in World War II. When I write, I tell the untold truth. Tony the Marine (talk) 02:20, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Hurghada knife attack article/s

 * A very perceptive comment about slippery slopes. Nom on that AFD appears, to me, to be working aggressively to delete articles on terrorist attacks, overturning a longstanding trend under which terrorist attacks have been kept.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:25, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Donald Trump vs. ISIS
And Donald Trump is having a good effect on ISIS and I'm glad he talked about these events not getting the coverage as they should. The Egyptian people feel Trump has their back. I'm not sure what the prior U.S. administration was doing over there (and I mean that comment in the MOST SARCASTIC WAY because I DO KNOW the effects they were having on ISIS, until Russia came in and said enough!!).

But many people joke about it. Without help, Egypt would be fighting a losing battle. Did you see the picture of the Orb. Donald Trump, Al-Sisi and the KSA joined in an effort to trample extremism. People just laughed about it. People just don't get it. They don't see how we're all connected and how it's all connected and how important the U.S. is in all of this. the eloquent peasant (talk) 17:46, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Need more editors interested in Egypt articles
, One autumn season, I destubbed 43 articles on Egypt. I'm aware of only a few active and interested in Egypt editors. Very few! We really need more editors working on Egypt articles. the eloquent peasant (talk) 19:13, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Article project
Hello, I've been more busy than expected today but I didn't want you to think I have forgotten about the article. From the brief time I had to find sources, I saw this issue has been written about extensively between 2015 to now. My biggest issue so far is probably this simplest part of writing this article: the title. Should it be something like "Terrorism targeting tourism in Egypt" or "Effects of terrorism on tourism in Egypt"? Once I have actual free time tomorrow I can start writing an intro and background.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 16:04, 30 July 2017 (UTC)


 * That's EXACTLY what I was thinking about. Maybe Attacks Aimed at Tourism in Egypt. I thought the word "terrorist" and "terrorism" turns alot of people off. Should the article exist without "terrorism" in its title. I don't know. I don't have any free time today either! The title of the article IS the biggest issue. Talk to you tomorrow! Peace. the eloquent peasant (talk) 16:17, 30 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Do you want me to write it? It could be my 2nd new article. It'd be nice if I had two articles under my belt. My article on a serial killer was speedily deleted because I couldn't think of anything nice to say about "a living person"- you know the policy on Biographies on Living People...  the eloquent peasant (talk) 16:20, 30 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I started an outline - can I write it? After all the idea for the article, was mine.


 * Let me know if I should continue working on it or if you prefer to. Neither of us want to waste our time, I'm sure. See my sandbox. the eloquent peasant (talk) 17:39, 30 July 2017 (UTC)


 * It's an interesting idea, could have links from the tragically large number of attacks on tourist destinations like the Luxor massacre, and others, but be about the economic impact. Would enable article on individual attacks to be linked here, as well as from Terrorism in Egypt.  Do we have similar articles about other countries?E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:16, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * 8/1/2017 It'd be great but I do realize it will be quite difficult to find that particular kind of information. I'll search Arabic news articles, but I don't speak Arabic so it would take me some time to get help from Arabic speakers re: economic impact on tourist attack incidents. A recent impact was evident when Israelis stopped going to Egypt for 18 months, then returned under heavy security. Your .02 is greatly appreciated. the eloquent peasant (talk) 13:56, 1 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I started writing it. I'm passionate about the topic. I don't know if other similar articles exist for other countries. The articles on all of these topics could use work. In part it's because we don't have a lot of interest or wikipedians who work on these, I think. Please see my sandbox. Your comments or additions are welcome. the eloquent peasant (talk) 17:22, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree that Egypt's dependence on tourism make it a special target. Sad, really.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:24, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Of course, it's sad. It also makes the President and the citizens of Egypt angry as hell. the eloquent peasant (talk) 17:39, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I saw you started a draft but it isn't entirely written in an encyclopedic style. I can provide examples for clarification if need be. I get the feeling you don't trust me since you once again flip-flopped your vote at AfD so if you prefer I butt out, I will.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:59, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * If you have time, that would be greatly appreciated. the eloquent peasant (talk) 13:56, 1 August 2017 (UTC)


 * We do have Tourism in Turkey, and probably others. As long as you have at least some WP:SIGCOV - RS articles that address this topic in depth,  there should be no objections to having such an article.  I think it removed the risk of WP:UNDUE at the pages like Tourism in Egypt, although, of course, such pages need to retain a section, linking to the new page.  We do need more editors on Egypt, but, of course, we need more editors, period.  Good luck writing article!E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:12, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * New article created, as we discussed. Attacks on the Tourism of Egypt the eloquent peasant (talk) 16:01, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi. It's a good start, I think you should keep in mind the need for an encyclopedic tone. making sure to emphasize sourced, preferably measurable impact on the economy. E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:01, 4 August 2017 (UTC)