User talk:The Emperor's New Spy/Archive 4

If you are bored... :D
Hi! If you're bored, you could redecorate List of Danish consorts, List of Norwegian consorts, and List of Swedish consorts. Almost all pre-1905 Norwegian consorts were also consorts to the monarchs of Sweden and/or Denmark, so it shouldn't be too hard :D Surtsicna (talk) 18:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok I redid the Swedish consorts and I am now working on Norway and Denmark but I need you to do me a little favor. Can you give me the House names of all the Danish monarchs prior to the Kalmar Union?  List of Danish monarchs doesn't give them and the monarch template doesn't help since it says House of Ylvinga when most of the articles for the monarchs say House of Estridsen. And who were the Knytlinga, the monarchs before them? --Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 17:48, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Creating subtitles for every royal house that reigned in Denmark prior to the Kalmar Union would make the article messy. Just put them under "Consorts of the early monarchs". By the way, the word is accession, not ascession :) Surtsicna (talk) 18:13, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok.--Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 18:21, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I am at a dilema with Norway. I'm not sure if I should list the wifes of the Jarl/Regent of Norway under the Danish Kings of Norway or the consort of the Danish Kings of Norway from the 976-995, 1000-1015 and 1028-1035.  I never actually heard of a regent consort until I read the List of Swedish consorts. --Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 01:02, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Don't bother listing wives of regents. Regents are not monarchs and therefore their wives are not consorts ;) Surtsicna (talk) 08:24, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm done you might to check the three articles for mistakes. Thanks--Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 00:41, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

That sounds fine!--David (talk) 15:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

consorts of Bavaria
If you are going to make a page on the duchesses of Bavaria then you may as well add it to your page on queens of bavaria. cheers-- David (talk) 15:46, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Do you want me to start it? I haven't got much to do at the moment. Cheers--David (talk) 16:54, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Sure. I really don't like these German minor monarchies because inheritance is so messy among them. There could be more than one Duke of Bavaria existing at one time. And the article on the monarchs of Bavaria, it list some Frankish kings who bore the title King of Bavaria but the only Frankish kings who ever use that title was Louis the German, Carloman of Bavaria, and Louis the Younger; Charles the Fat was King of Eastern Francia. Ok here is the plan you start on the Electresses of Bavaria and Duchesses List of rulers of Bavaria. Just added to the article on List of Bavarian consorts. And I get on to the earlier duchesses later.--Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 17:32, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

OK, but I can't start it today because I am rather busy in life but I will start it tommorrow. --David (talk) 19:37, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I have done the later consorts and electresses. Are you going to do the earlier ones? --David (talk) 15:47, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes. I am now at the House of Welf's duchesses. Do you know anything about succession boxes? If you do you can make them for all the Duchesses you did that doesn't have them and the rest of then the other duchess after that. This list is going to take me awhile. When we are done with the article can you make an suitable introduction to the article. I make these lists but usually I am too lazy to perfect the introduction or the succession boxes. Check the other consort list in Wikipedia and just switch a little bit here and there and bam, you'll have a decent intro. --Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 09:54, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

All you need to do is finish the Wittlesbatch dynasty, they were the most important because they reigned the longest in Bavaria.--David (talk) 17:43, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

OK, I AM DONE. Check it out.--Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 10:01, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Are you going to merge it with the queens? I need to know this before I start succession boxes and create an intoduction --David (talk) 15:43, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Do you know how to delete articles? It looks like we would have to take the current List of Bavarian consorts merge it with the User:Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy/List of Bavarian consorts and then delete the current list and then move my list to the that title. We can't move it now since the current title is taken. --Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 20:00, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Just go into edit mode on the duchess one, copy the entire content and paste it into Bavarian consorts,I'll do it if you want --David (talk) 09:36, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok. But we would lose all the edit histories. Just go ahead. --Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 09:59, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

The page is too big, the computer has trouble holding it. I think the Duchesses are going to need a seperate page.--David (talk) 10:20, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it too big. Have you seen my article List of Roman and Byzantine Empresses, List of Saxon consorts, and List of Hessian consorts? It's way bigger. The size is fine there is no point making a seperate article. --Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 10:28, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Matilda and Welf
Hi, I checked Bernold of Constance, and he says Welf left Matilda because "she had never been touched by him" and "he had not yet had conjugal knowledge of her." This is on pg. 323 of "Eleventh-Century Germany: The Swabian Chronicles" by I.S. Robinson. Apparently it was an ill-advised attempt to unite the imperial and papal supporters, but Welf seems like nothing more than a pawn of both sides. Adam Bishop (talk) 12:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

WP:RD/H
It's been a week since you asked this question (you forgot to sign it, BTW), so I'm letting you know I just posted a response now. I hope you'll find this translation useful. — Kpalion(talk) 12:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Descendants of Charlemagne
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 * Lack of sources, lack of purpose, arbitrary cut-off. See Carolingian dynasty.

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached.
 * Note: I did not propose it, but felt it was worth letting you know that it was proposed. Odie5533 (talk) 16:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure. Delete it. --Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 01:01, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

This could be useful
Hello! I just found this page. It's a list of European consorts since the 16th century. I thought you could find it useful because you do lists of consorts. Bye! Surtsicna (talk) 17:20, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I already saw this page already, but thanks anyway. It would help when I start on more modern lists, but I now planning on a list of Duchesses of Brittany and maybe a Welsh or Irish list, and then perfect the Asturian list of consorts.--Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 20:00, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Kotromanić family tree
Hello! Do you know how to use Template:Familytree? Having a Kotromanić family tree would be very helpful, but I find the template extremely complicated. The family tree would depict the descent of the last king from the first king; the relations between the royal family of Bosnia and reigning queens of Hungary and Poland, as well as the relations between the Bosnian royal family and the Counts of Celje. This is important because King Sigismund of Hungary claimed the throne of Bosnia as husband of Mary and cousin-in-law of King Tvrtko I, while Count Hermann of Celje was a designated heir of King Tvrtko II. If I remember correctly, you are great with these complicated templates. If you don't know how to do it, do you know anyone who knows how to use the template? Surtsicna (talk) 14:45, 26 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I never mastered that template and the templates I used are not complicated at all.--Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 22:03, 26 July 2009 (UTC)


 * They are complicated to me! I'd sooner write a featured article than manage to create a readable list of people :) Thank you anyway. Surtsicna (talk) 07:02, 27 July 2009 (UTC)