User talk:The JPS/archive18/Director templates

Director templates
(originally posted on User talk:Commander Keane) There isn't a policy, as far as I know. I participated in the discussion on several pages, and no policy was ever mentioned. It started with my Spielberg template being nominated for deletion. The template was kept, as there was no consensus to delete. So it was nominated again, this time along with Hitchcock and Kubrick. I was happier with the joined discussion, since there would be some attempt at consistency.

There was no real consensus to delete the three templates. They were deleted anyway, and were removed from the articles before the TFD was marked as closed!

I guess the community has spoken. It is a shame, though, since I think that the templates would have been used by many visitors who are not editors. The categories do not provide the valuable chronological detail (which many film enthusiasts appreciate), and chronological 'list of X films' can be quite hard to find for new users.

I perceive a growing tendency against many templates, and the usual suspects appear to be nominate and vote against several other templates. In this case I think their deletion has made the wiki less functional.

I now vote delete for consistency when directors templates come up, but make it clear that I'm in favour of them in general. The community seems to be against them, but with a small majority. I'm not sure there's much point in us pressing the point. We'll be opposed, and even if the consensus goes in our favour, they'd be deleted anyway, or renominated until they are deleted.

Take a look at Templates_for_deletion

Hope this helps. The JPS 15:42, 5 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep the templates!! I had no idea why they were deleted and I thought they were very, very helpful! Gsgeorge 16:19, 5 August 2005 (UTC)


 * From what I could tell from the very confusing vote in the TFD archives, there was NO consensus to delete, so whoever went ahead and did the deletes (I haven't checked the page history, was it Radiant! ?) should not have done it. I calculated anywhere from 60 to 68% for delete, where consensus should be a minimum of 70-80%. I will support either a Vote for Undelete or a revote at TFD. Blank Verse  &empty;  17:19, 5 August 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm in favor of the director templates. Atlant 17:46, 5 August 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm against the templates, because the templates are very large on already very cluttered pages (Hitchcock's was rediculously huge). As mentioned the film list is on the directors page, where you would expect it. You don't go to Psycho to find more about other Hitchcock films, you go to Alfred Hitchcock, where it's reasonable to find this information. MechBrowman 03:26, August 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * What do you think of Template:Bond_movies? The JPS 07:34, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't mind that (as much) because it's a series of films. MechBrowman 01:23, August 16, 2005 (UTC)